Discussion Does the environment supress the slutty nature of the foid or does the environment cause the slutiness?

[andrej]

So for example Emily is a 17 year old LTB living in California. Her bodycount has been around 40 by now and she has cheated on multiple short term partners. If we kindapped Emily from USA and flew her to Afghanistan and raised her there while she was still a baby what would happen? Would this nature just get supressed due to the dangerous consequences or would her soul literally become purified through good environment and good parenting?

 

[SpookySpook]

It suppresses it

 

[PhineasSpear]

Depends. If society was more shaming towards promiscuity, the women would mirror this and be more shaming of it. If society was permissive of it, more women would support this.

As for the example you set, while Emily is no doubt "damaged" in that sense, she would be force to suppress her urges and compromise because of the potential lethality of violating said rule.

Though this isn't guaranteed.

 

[luciferiancel]

Our current situation is a consequence of modern civilization ceasing to supress that kind of behavior almost entirely.

 

[andrej]

Depends. If society was more shaming towards promiscuity, the women would mirror this and be more shaming of it. If society was permissive of it, more women would support this.

As for the example you set, while Emily is no doubt "damaged" in that sense, she would be force to suppress her urges and compromise because of the potential lethality of violating said rule.

Though this isn't guaranteed.

So if a friend of her husband came into her house and he was good looking with globally recognized sexy type of appeal this foid would get the butterflies but wouldn't engage into anything due to risk? What if she was 100% certain that nobody would ever catch them being together? Would she think something like: "No, this is haram and Allah doesn't like it." or would she just release into lust and have sex with the guy?

 

[luciferiancel]

You reminded me, there's an interesting excerpt from an important medieval islamic scholar that argued for female "circumcision" because it helped supress their libido, and compared how these "circumcised" women behaved more modestly in relation to european or tatar/turco-mongol (iirc) women.

 

[luciferiancel]

So if a friend of her husband came into her house and he was good looking with globally recognized sexy type of appeal this foid would get the butterflies but wouldn't engage into anything due to risk? What if she was 100% certain that nobody would ever catch them being together? Would she think something like: "No, this is haram and Allah doesn't like it." or would she just release into lust and have sex with the guy?

Depends on the woman, I think. There are more and less degenerate women, even in our societies.

 

[ihatelife2]

I think it's their nature to want chad so I think society just suppresses their nature.

 

[PhineasSpear]

So if a friend of her husband came into her house and he was good looking with globally recognized sexy type of appeal this foid would get the butterflies but wouldn't engage into anything due to risk? What if she was 100% certain that nobody would ever catch them being together? Would she think something like: "No, this is haram and Allah doesn't like it." or would she just release into lust and have sex with the guy?

If she is certain she wouldn't get caught, then she would do it.

I said this because when someone's natural tendencies (the id) is under the watchful eye of the society (superego), the person (the ego) would try suppress the id to be in accordance with society.

However if they are not under the watchful eye, then the id would almost certainly dominate the person's reasoning.

Now if Emily for example was under the watchful eye of the Islamic society, then she would try to suppress her id (and maybe even succeed) but would no doubt cause her mental anguish over to have never satisfy her urges.

 

[andrej]

You reminded me, there's an interesting excerpt from an important medieval islamic scholar that argued for female "circumcision" because it helped supress their libido, and compared how these "circumcised" women behaved more modestly in relation to european or tatar/turco-mongol (iirc) women.

Interesting, I wish this was normalized in modern society.

 

[andrej]

If she is certain she wouldn't get caught, then she would do it.

I said this because when someone's natural tendencies (the id) is under the watchful eye of the society (superego), the person (the ego) would try suppress the id to be in accordance with society.

However if they are not under the watchful eye, then the id would almost certainly dominate the person's reasoning.

Now if Emily for example was under the watchful eye of the Islamic society, then she would try to suppress her id (and maybe even succeed) but would no doubt cause her mental anguish over to have never satisfy her urges.

Good analogy and I honestly agree. Sad but brutal truth, nothing can truly change the nature of a foid