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Does anyone else here drink and/or do drugs to cope or just feel not horrified by life?

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I'm just curious: alcoholism heavily runs on my dad's side of the family - he became a severe alcoholic after developing schizophrenia when I was a toddler to try to cope with that, but his dad and like half his brothers/sisters were also massive alcoholics.

Long story short - my liver seems to be really resilient, like my mentally ill relatives on my dad's side of the family that drink (or if they died, drank) like fish, yet were able to do that nightly for 15 to 20 years without dying. The problem though is that after drinking like at least half a liter of hard booze nightly for around two or three weeks, and decided I wanted to not be in a chemical haze or forget how/when I went to sleep, so decided to just stop: I got more and more anxious, like seriously paranoid, like someone was going to murder me and before I knew it, started to hallucinate incredibly fucked up and sometimes indescribable shit. It started with eeing "shadow people" at first outside of my apartment when it got dark, then small things turning into insects: like centipedes and scorpions and ones that don't exist in reality first in the corner of my eyes, skeletons in the white walls of my apartment and bodies with decaying flesh reaching out to me, and so on.

I started to shake involuntarily pretty badly and could seriously feel something was very wrong with my body, and despite feeling extremely afraid of other people at that point, decided to go to the hospital to survive. I took an Uber at like 3 AM probably looking all fucked up, sweating massively and looking/acting like a complete psycho, all while my heart was beating insanely fast and I started to almost see reality in frenetic, jittering frames. After I told them at the check-in what was happening, I guess based on what I said or how I looked, they took me back almost right away, talking kind of urgently. They sedated with IV benzos and even then at first I was still hallucinating for a bit, just felt calm about it. As seeing shit faded away, the hallucinations became almost beautiful or interesting and sometimes funny as fuck vs. extremely terrifying visions of hell. They were really pushing detox/rehab, but I told them I had to work, because I didn't have a parent's home to move back to and would be homeless, so they relented and sympathetically gave me a handful of Xanax/Lorazepam with instructions to get through the rest of it.

I learned my lesson from that and now use a designer drug legal sedative daily that actually can be pretty euphoric. I've seen some people compare it to ecstasy on high doses, but I've never taken that, so can't say if that's accurate in my experience. It does make me way more social, but not in an obnoxious drunk way where I'm slurring my words and obviously fucked up, which is great. More importantly: I also want to listen to music or go for a walk and just enjoy seeing my city or nature, or talking to people: it's kind of like a social cheat code or something.

Anyway, without any substances or alcohol and really my entire teenage/adult life beforehand without using either, I'm guaranteed to feel ultra-depressed, to the point I don't even listen to music anymore, even shower, or sometimes even eat or do anything other than use the internet while laying in bed if I'm not sleeping as much as I can to black out on a reality I can't endure.

So - sorry I wrote a lot, but does anyone else relate or use drugs/booze? I'm in my mid-20s, FYI.
 
yeah they feel good
 
I have no respect for drug addicts. They are selfish hedonists who value their own pleasure while ruining the lives of those around them.
 
I have no respect for drug addicts. They are selfish hedonists who value their own pleasure while ruining the lives of those around them.
that’s a bad take
 
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i do lots of drugs and drink its my last cope
 
I'm not horrified by life but I do enjoy drinking.
 
I coped for a long time with alcohol, and weed before that. But it only leads to insane thoughts once you start quitting. Let alone the stupid things you do when under influence days on end.

Its just choosing to die a slow painful death. If you really want to go, just end it.
 
I have no respect for drug addicts. They are selfish hedonists who value their own pleasure while ruining the lives of those around them.
Yeah, well - I'm too lazy to post or reply in more detail this right now or with peer-reviewed studies/sources - and while I'm not surprised at all to hear this judgmental viewpoint: modern medical science and neurology prove the exact opposite of your "selfish hedonist" take and to the contrary show that addiction/alcoholism is a literal disease and physiological/neurological condition, right down to the genetic level and involving stuff like transcription factors (you probably don't know what those are) that make rewarding substances feel way better to those with the relevant genetics or past trauma histories (which can also impact the aforementioned transcription factors or how your body makes use of segments of your DNA).

This is because, if you take my case specifically, people with family/genealogical histories of addiction basically get a much bigger flow of endogenous neuropeptides like beta-endorphin (the same natural "feel good" chemical your body makes and it gives you a huge "hit" from when you have an orgasm/cum), which is literally an opioid that's 17 times more potent than morphine by molecular weight, along with a much bigger flood dopamine in response to drug/alcohol exposure, which is same primarily motivational neurotransmitter that floods in when using cocaine. It still will happen with substances that seem like the opposite, like alcohol or heroin/oxycodone/opioids (primarily in the anticipation of using it again or motivating behavior to seek it out). On top of that, trauma in childhood or adulthood, like veterans often get from being in wars and seeing their friends get killed or brutally killing others, triggers a similar neurological phenomenon, even if it that predisposition doesn't run in your family. It just stacks even more and makes it more brutal if addiction/alcoholism runs in your family, on top of experiencing trauma, which is pretty common when your parent is an addict or alcoholic.

So, basically: in your self-assured judgment - you believe way more in free will than modern science shows is realistic - which is also ironic because you probably believe in the blackpill, and that personality can't override looks, yet do somehow think people are far more in control of their destinies than they actually are when the reality is that their brains are material organs like any of our other ones, they have hereditary and/or environmental genetics that determine how neurotransmitters and peptides flow countless times daily, etc.

(I started to, but was too poor to finish medical school, FYI - but am too tired to write more about this)
 
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I read books. Currently reading The Monk it’s about foids corrupting sensitive young men. Trying to move away from weed since it’s kinda gay and losery and I’m a grown man now.
 
Nah, I'm about as straightedge as an autistic NEET gets. Not like I have any money to buy any even if I wanted to.
 
been getting a lot better after talking to someone, it was getting out of hand for me a bit ago but ive slowly been sobering up, i dont think ill ever fully live sober but at the very least its on my own will for now. im not running anymore from reality.

time will come where ill want to run away i know it, its happened for years now, but i get better each time.
 
Nah, I'm about as straightedge as an autistic NEET gets. Not like I have any money to buy any even if I wanted to.
Well, as I wrote above (I know I write more than most, but I can pump words out very fast):

Rewarding substances/drugs and alcohol feel much better to some people based either on their family history thus genetics and/or past exposure to trauma and just generally horrible experiences. It's both interesting but also brutal as fuck.
 
We all have different ways to cope, and if you take some kinda trips a few there and then... id say its not even bad cause it helps you mentally ykwim. Its better than alcohol cause that strains your physical wellbeing alot more and for drugs like that, probaly takes forever to fry your brain if you use them in good mannerism

Like my dad side was full of heavy smokers, my grandpa smokes like 2-3 packs a day and hes 90 lmao but i never really felt the hype of a few nicotine hits. It all boils down to genetics of how your brain behaves but its a good thing ur getting better
 
I'm just curious: alcoholism heavily runs on my dad's side of the family - he became a severe alcoholic after developing schizophrenia when I was a toddler to try to cope with that, but his dad and like half his brothers/sisters were also massive alcoholics.

Long story short - my liver seems to be really resilient, like my mentally ill relatives on my dad's side of the family that drink (or if they died, drank) like fish, yet were able to do that nightly for 15 to 20 years without dying. The problem though is that after drinking like at least half a liter of hard booze nightly for around two or three weeks, and decided I wanted to not be in a chemical haze or forget how/when I went to sleep, so decided to just stop: I got more and more anxious, like seriously paranoid, like someone was going to murder me and before I knew it, started to hallucinate incredibly fucked up and sometimes indescribable shit. It started with eeing "shadow people" at first outside of my apartment when it got dark, then small things turning into insects: like centipedes and scorpions and ones that don't exist in reality first in the corner of my eyes, skeletons in the white walls of my apartment and bodies with decaying flesh reaching out to me, and so on.

I started to shake involuntarily pretty badly and could seriously feel something was very wrong with my body, and despite feeling extremely afraid of other people at that point, decided to go to the hospital to survive. I took an Uber at like 3 AM probably looking all fucked up, sweating massively and looking/acting like a complete psycho, all while my heart was beating insanely fast and I started to almost see reality in frenetic, jittering frames. After I told them at the check-in what was happening, I guess based on what I said or how I looked, they took me back almost right away, talking kind of urgently. They sedated with IV benzos and even then at first I was still hallucinating for a bit, just felt calm about it. As seeing shit faded away, the hallucinations became almost beautiful or interesting and sometimes funny as fuck vs. extremely terrifying visions of hell. They were really pushing detox/rehab, but I told them I had to work, because I didn't have a parent's home to move back to and would be homeless, so they relented and sympathetically gave me a handful of Xanax/Lorazepam with instructions to get through the rest of it.

I learned my lesson from that and now use a designer drug legal sedative daily that actually can be pretty euphoric. I've seen some people compare it to ecstasy on high doses, but I've never taken that, so can't say if that's accurate in my experience. It does make me way more social, but not in an obnoxious drunk way where I'm slurring my words and obviously fucked up, which is great. More importantly: I also want to listen to music or go for a walk and just enjoy seeing my city or nature, or talking to people: it's kind of like a social cheat code or something.

Anyway, without any substances or alcohol and really my entire teenage/adult life beforehand without using either, I'm guaranteed to feel ultra-depressed, to the point I don't even listen to music anymore, even shower, or sometimes even eat or do anything other than use the internet while laying in bed if I'm not sleeping as much as I can to black out on a reality I can't endure.

So - sorry I wrote a lot, but does anyone else relate or use drugs/booze? I'm in my mid-20s, FYI.
I want to do drugs but I can't i so fucked up
 
I use CBD oil occasionally. A single drop beneath the tongue == instant relief from anxiety. But I can't abuse it, otherwise I become aloof/zombie-like.
 

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