Does anyone else find it frustrating that suicide is always immediately blamed on mental illness?

[Clavicus Vile]

It completely overlooks the fact that suicide can be a fully thought out logical decision and calculated risk, thought about over the course of many years. Furthermore, I feel like people are at their most awake when they are suicidal actually. Their eyes are open and they can see reality for what it is to its core, animals harming other animals on a rock in the middle of nowhere. Even if they won’t admit it, they know deep down that it’s true. This is why the suicidal are seen as “crazy” or “mentally ill”. I’m talking about real suicidal people too, not some stupid teenage girl cutting shit.

It’s not intelligence, it’s a level of awareness that contentment just can’t give you. You have to be at your lowest point to really see it, if you got everything you’ve ever wanted, your eyes would likely start to close again, “maybe life ain’t so bad actually”. Dopamine and serotonin give blissful ignorance to reality. When there’s nothing in the form of enjoyment and pleasure keeping your eyes closed, you snap because you see what others can’t see, you become the crazy one.

 

[Sex-Starved Beast]

Staying alive as an incel is mental illness. I am only alive because I am mentally ill and illogical.

 

[SewerGoat]

Most people who kill themselves statistically have no recorded mental illness. One explanation is that they just didn't get the chance to get into psychiatric evaluation, therefore never got a diagnosis - the other is, that it is not a causal necessity for contemplating suicide which is the norm. Most people contemplate suicide during their life, even Normies - it is very human; life is very difficult and shit for most of us.

Most people who are depressed are not depressed because of an innate chemical inbalance by genetic disposition but because their life is objectively shitty. They live in Depravation.

 

[SewerGoat]

There are completely sound and rational reasons to want to leave this existence

 

[SewerGoat]

Most people who kill themselves statistically have no recorded mental illness. One explanation is that they just didn't get the chance to get into psychiatric evaluation, therefore never got a diagnosis - the other is, that it is not a causal necessity for contemplating suicide which is the norm. Most people contemplate suicide during their life, even Normies - it is very human; life is very difficult and shit for most of us.

Most people who are depressed are not depressed because of an innate chemical inbalance by genetic disposition but because their life is objectively shitty. They live in Depravation.

There is a good argument for both points. Most people who off themselves are of the third world - there is no mental health innative there hence the suicide rates, hence no mental illness diagnosis prior to offing themselves. But the real cause are objective circumstances. Chemical imbalance by genetic is very seldom. People have a good reason to be depressed. Therapists are still going to try to make it a "You can't change the stimulus, you need to learn to react to the stimulus the right way".

 

[yeetbender_]

I am alive because I am mentally ill and illogical.

 

[outerdarkness]

 

[Feeshtu]

Suicide is perfectly reasonable, in a lot of situations.

Most people lack the courage to go through with it.

If I was on death row, I would kill myself before the Zog could kill me………not letting them make a spectacle out of my death.

If I was a paralyzed from the neck down, I would kill myself…….though I’m not sure how I could kill myself in that situation.

The list goes on.

But, I do not think that most people kill themselves for good reasons.
They kill themselves over problems that are temporary.

 

[PhineasSpear]

Suicide is a common reaction to sudden or otherwise catastrophic stress (e.g. lost their job or house).

I say common because while most won't go through with it, they atleast thought their life was over and thought of it even for a brief moment.