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Do you know any average looking guys who are motivated life, work hard and think they'll succeed?

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By average I mean like 4 to 6/10, no outliers.

And by motivated I mean not depressed, NEET maxxing, spending all his time on internet forums. A guy who really thinks he's going to make it only if he works hard.
 
By average I mean like 4 to 6/10, no outliers.

And by motivated I mean not depressed, NEET maxxing, spending all his time on internet forums. A guy who really thinks he's going to make it only if he works hard.

I know some 6's but they are young and maybe have a chance. I think many aren't redpilled though.

But among 4's aged over 30/35. No i see none that are living in a fantasy world. They know at best only a dumper truck whale would tolerate them.
 
Nope, none. It's like we're already dead.
 
Being a 6 is enough to have a satisfying dating life imo. But if you are a sub6 get ready to only date landwhales and ugglios.
 
It's really pushing it.
 
Yeah but they are getting very rare
 
Being a 6 is enough to have a satisfying dating life imo. But if you are a sub6 get ready to only date landwhales and ugglios.

Just landwhales. Ugly women with decent bodies can out right lieur their physiques to snag a 6/10 guy.
 
yeah well those average guys end up becoming a provider for a used up whore. so youre not missing out on much. then she will divorce him, while he becomes fat and miserable. A few years later he will try again but this time it will be in some shithole Asian country to find a wife
 
Depends on your definition of motivated. I know a few guys that are 5/10 at best and they are married to horrible women. They wagecuck blue collar jobs, no college education.
 
I do, but the guy is utterly delusional. He's just coping hard.
 
basically every guy i know thinks he's going to be rich or famous. results may be skewed because i live in LA. i think its a cope. i even did it in early adulthood i thought something great would happen to me because the alternative is realizing you aren't special, you'll never not be a wageslave, and you will never get the girl of your dreams. your life is going to be boring and shit just like all the other adults around you. and the guys i talk to can not be shaken of this delusion. i tell my friends dude its never going to happen give it up but they won't listen and still think they'll become famous musicians or writers or entrepreneurs even though they're average in looks and have bad ideas/skills.
 
Most people I've been around tbh

But I live in the heart of Rust Belt workaholic wageslave central, where everyone is so far away from actual high status people that they have no idea what that life entails.
 
Some, but the older they get, the more blackpilled they become. I know people who were extremely motivated in their 20's as a sub 5, but became depressed in their 30's without a gf or wife.
 
Saw punkmaxed average/below looking fuckboys being successfull with cute teen girls. But thats not real hard working
 

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