Serious Do you ever feel conflicted about whether or not you want to expereince sex, kissing, and cuddling?

[Deleted member 8353]

Sometimes I do, I wonder if being able to experience these things once would just end up making me feel worse. That is to know what I've missed out on, and the only way I'd be able to know is by paying for it.

Part of my reasoning is that I can't watch/look at real porn(even solo foids) without feeling bad, and I'm wondering if this would carry over into something like escortcelling as well. Although another thing is that I worry about the potential of me beginning to crave sex and just physical contact with foids in general even more after having experienced it before.

 

[Pepsi_man]

i'm afraid that i might feel empty afterwards i dunno all the anticipation and for it to be disappointing will definitely make me feel empty on the inside

 

[Deleted member 2686]

tbh I feel conflicted on whether or not I would want to hug and cuddle my ex oneitis(no not my exgf, not a )

I also feel conflicted about whether or not I should fap

and then I remember, I wont ever get a gf rn, so, fapping is my best option and closest to having sex(without getting HIV)

 

[Deleted member 8353]

I also feel conflicted about whether or not I should fap

and then I remember, I wont ever get a gf rn, so, fapping is my best option and closest to having sex(without getting HIV)

I don't really feel conflicted about that tbh, it's the only sexual release available to me. I've considered ordering a fleshlight but I never end up doing it.

 

[Deleted member 2686]

I don't really feel conflicted about that tbh, it's the only sexual release available to me. I've considered ordering a fleshlight but I never end up doing it.

same

 

[FrothySolutions]

I don't think this is the same thing. You're not conflicted about what you want, you're conflicted about whether or not you want a sample. Because if you get a sample, you'll be addicted.

 

[Words2_live_bye]

I would really love to be able to experience those things. Closest i've gotten to sex is fucking my pocket pussy. Closest i've gotten to kissing and cuddling is my pillow

 

[michael2222]

I have a feeling sex will be disappointing. But I doubt cuddling, kissing etc will be

 

[Deleted member 8353]

I don't think this is the same thing. You're not conflicted about what you want, you're conflicted about whether or not you want a sample. Because if you get a sample, you'll be addicted.

Yeah that's most of it. It's a combination of me being worried about craving sex even more, with no access to it outside of escortcelling, and that it might make me further reflect on what I've missed out on in life. Not to mention, at this point reflection like that makes me feel suicidal.

Closest i've gotten to kissing and cuddling is my pillow

I do this too.

 

[FrothySolutions]

Yeah that's most of it. It's a combination of me being worried about craving sex even more, with no access to it outside of escortcelling, and that it might make me further reflect on what I've missed out on in life. Not to mention, at this point reflection like that makes me feel suicidal.

Fear of not being able to make up for what you missed out on. Do you know exactly what it is you hoped to experience?

 

[Deleted member 677]

If you're talking about paying for it, then yeah, I have my doubts about that. I have never doubted wanting to experience genuine and unpaid love and affection, though.

 

[johnnyb]

we all know that even if we did able to do that it would just be a transitory for the moment thing, the foid always leaving. I think this knowledge alone takes away any pleasure that could be experienced

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Fear of not being able to make up for what you missed out on. Do you know exactly what it is you hoped to experience?

Well pleasure is the obvious part, a foid actually wanting me and telling me that I'm good enough in the most intrinsically valid manner available to her is another aspect of it.

But I suspect that I still can't kill my preconception of shared "love" between myself and a 3D foid, despite me being fully aware that such thinking is bluepilled trash. I don't even believe that it's real, so why is the disappointment still present? I hate this cucked brain.

 

[FrothySolutions]

So what you hope to experience is this preconception of shared love? What is it?

 

[Deleted member 8353]

So what you hope to experience is this preconception of shared love? What is it?

I don't know exactly, that's the thing. It's essentially nothing, something that I created for myself that doesn't exist. It's probably a mixture of sexual urges combined with loneliness. If you're asking me what I think love actually is, well certainly not this bullshit that my cucked brain has invented. I think people largely say "love" when they mean infatuation.

This isn't something I feel for foids anymore, which is why I haven't had an oneitis since I was a kid. I suppose I have a separate desire to truly understand and care about someone else, while having this reciprocated, but I think at some point I conflated this with infatuation and projected it onto foids who will never feel the same way about me.

 

[FrothySolutions]

I don't know exactly, that's the thing. It's essentially nothing, something that I created for myself that doesn't exist. It's probably a mixture of sexual urges combined with loneliness.

I was hoping you could tell what exact specific things you'd like to experience. What feelings you wanna feel.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

I was hoping you could tell what exact specific things you'd like to experience. What feelings you wanna feel.

Oh, well I guess I just want someone to care about me. I mentioned it a bit in this thread.

[Bluepilled Fantasy] I want to be protected by a loving girlfriend, my true nature is that of a beta

What I want more than anything is a foid who cares about me, who is loyal to me, and who would hold me in her arms and tell me that everything is going to be alright. We'd do lots of things together, like going for walks in nature, watching anime, cooking, and cuddling with each other. Her...

incels.is

But like I said, I don't really desire this from actual foids anymore, it's more like a vague notion that I cope with. Now I mostly just wish that my waifu was real tbh, I want to have experiences that I can't fully realize.

 

[Deleted member 17599]

No man, I want nothing but sex

 

[Joelossus]

No bro, i definitly want to expierience all of this at least once, and don't even feel remotely conflicted about it tbh. Even though i'm not a 100% sure if i will actually enjoy it as much as i think i would ngl.

 

[littlemanhikicel]

I want to experience a normal relationship with a foid or at least getting laid at least 20 times or something. With the same foid as preferable.

 

[EyesAreSoCold]

Part of my reasoning is that I can't watch/look at real porn(even solo foids) without feeling bad, and I'm wondering if this would carry over into something like escortcelling as well.

Why does it make you feel bad? I feel bad about looking at foids because I know other men fucks them while I can't have them, is it the same for you? I'm not conflicted about wanting that intimacy at all, if I had it I would be perfectly happy(for a while at least).

 

[Deleted member 8353]

I feel bad about looking at foids because I know other men fucks them while I can't have them, is it the same for you?

Yes that's a lot of it, and the fact that I know they'd want nothing to do with me.

 

[ihaveno1]

i fantasize about all 3 every single night when im in bed, cant beat biology

 

[Hate_my_life]

Before I sleep I always speak to my pillow just holding it (Pretending it's a foid). I just vent all my issues to the pillow, cry (not everyday maybe 1-2 times a month) and hug my pillow until I sleep.

When I wake up it always hurts to know that because of how I look, I'll never experience that.

 

[incel4life]

Escortcel here. Sex and cuddling didn't feel as heavenly as I thought it would be. It made me feel better because I realized I wasn't missing out on anything extraordinary. It's more satisfying than porn because after porn I always think "I wish that girl was really here" whereas after seeing prostitutes I feel satisfied and do not crave women.

I think the truly heavenly experience would be walking along the beach while holding hands with a black haired green eyed gorgeous 16yo girl, and looking into her eyes while she smiles big at you. I think someone who experiences this once, and then has nothing for 20 years would find it very difficult not to kill himself.

 

[Chileancel]

I think there's an unspoken thing about expectations and goals. For me and probably most people, there's a level of anxiety involving sex as a virgin. Then we know that's normal at a young age, but when you are in your late 20' or beyond that anxiety is not simple paranoia. I can't think of a single reason a woman could feel attracted to late virginity; not a single one. Even worst, it's possible to lose the small level of attraction you were able to get after she founds out. Regardless of what they say to you is not normal or ok to be a late virgin. Is not a small issue or an unimportant trait. So, of course, I feel conflicted to the (unlikely) chance of sex because I know she will be able to tell and it's 99% possible it's a turn-off.

 

[Braincel14w]

I get it. You don't just want to fuck a hole, you want that smiling eye contact that tells you she wants you and in that moment you kiss while you hold each other and it's a magic moment that "just happens". It's all I want in life. I don't care as much about sex if it doesn't come with this and that's why escortceling (while worthwhile) is not the solution for incels.

I think there's an unspoken thing about expectations and goals. For me and probably most people, there's a level of anxiety involving sex as a virgin. Then we know that's normal at a young age, but when you are in your late 20' or beyond that anxiety is not simple paranoia. I can't think of a single reason a woman could feel attracted to late virginity; not a single one. Even worst, it's possible to lose the small level of attraction you were able to get after she founds out. Regardless of what they say to you is not normal or ok to be a late virgin. Is not a small issue or an unimportant trait. So, of course, I feel conflicted to the (unlikely) chance of sex because I know she will be able to tell and it's 99% possible it's a turn-off.

This is why you need to lose your V to an escort asap in life.

 

[Chileancel]

This is why you need to lose your V to an escort asap in life.

No thanks, I won't spend my hard- earned salary in something 90% of men can get for free.

 

[Braincel14w]

No thanks, I won't spend my hard- earned salary in something 90% of men can get for free.

It would help you get over your lack of experience anxiety as it defo has for me after only 3 times.

 

[FrothySolutions]

Oh, well I guess I just want someone to care about me. I mentioned it a bit in this thread.

[Bluepilled Fantasy] I want to be protected by a loving girlfriend, my true nature is that of a beta

What I want more than anything is a foid who cares about me, who is loyal to me, and who would hold me in her arms and tell me that everything is going to be alright. We'd do lots of things together, like going for walks in nature, watching anime, cooking, and cuddling with each other. Her...

incels.is

But like I said, I don't really desire this from actual foids anymore, it's more like a vague notion that I cope with. Now I mostly just wish that my waifu was real tbh, I want to have experiences that I can't fully realize.

Why don't you want this anymore?

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Why don't you want this anymore?

It's not that I don't, I just hate foids tbh. It's more like the desire is still present, but it's just not applicable to them.

 

[FrothySolutions]

It's not that I don't, I just hate foids tbh. It's more like the desire is still present, but it's just not applicable to them.

Why don't you want this from women anymore?

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Why don't you want this from women anymore?

A combination of reasons, but mainly because of the realization that expecting these things from foids is totally unrealistic, unproductive, and could really only end up hurting me in some way. Thinking anything less than this about my desires is bluepilled tbh.

 

[FrothySolutions]

A combination of reasons, but mainly because of the realization that expecting these things from foids is totally unrealistic, unproductive, and could really only end up hurting me in some way. Thinking anything less than this about my desires is bluepilled tbh.

So you didn't actually stop wanting this, you just don't believe in it anymore. I don't think that's the same. You know what you want. The question is, does it exist?

 

[Michael15651]

I'd love to experience it. I know what I want and what will cure it.