Why exactly anxiety and stress? Why does hearing about God stress them out?
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This is fucking stupid. "Free" is an abstract belief that you have, just like feeling that you're "safe." People "feel safe" when there are CCTV cameras around, but their presense doesn't physically protect you. Likewise, I'm free to do whatever the fuck I want that doesn't break the laws of the land (I could do that too, if I really wanted to). The fact that I have a moral system that involves God doesn't mean that I literally can't and I'm not "free" to do so.
Eating a fruit that goes by whatever name, by comparison, is a concrete experience, of which you have a memory (that you can trust, that is). There is no moral (or legal) value to the act itself of eating the fruit, assuming it's not stolen obviously.
JFL @ this retardation.
And why do you associate bad things with a philosophical concept that you find fictitious and don't believe in? You should be ignoring it. Does it affect your daily life when you wake up, have breakfast, LDAR/work, and do other shit?
Do you sit there on your couch getting mad and fuming about the thought of God and religion or anytime somebody mentions it? You shouldn't, because that's dumb. It's like if I were to get mad that somebody liked a TV show I didn't like. It's irrational behavior.
I didn't say that you said it, I said that that you're acting like it. And of that, you definitely are. You're getting worked up over people's belief of some imaginary sky fairy who listens to people and occasionally grants wishes, or whatever concept of God you have in your head.
JFL
Imagine living the life of an incel in 2020 and believing there's a benevolent god. Oh look some cucks actually do believe this
Yeah. Catholic
legit. he doesn't exist and even if he did, wouldn't pray to such a vile son of a bitch
They have anxiety and stress because they are actually rebelling against God. That's why hearing his name triggers such emotion. Being an atheist is more about rebellion and believing you're superior to God than believing he doesn't exist. That's what I figured out when I stopped being one.
Maybe they have a negative perception of the word God, and tie it to centuries and decades of warfare, slavery, etc, but it doesn't really matter as even an "idk" would be a better answer than "demon magic corrupting them", as some would claim
Oh ok looks like you totally figured it out, just like if you don't believe in witchcraft, you actually rebel against witches and feel superior to them
wow there buddy, don't be using such hard language, god might send you to eternal fire
No, you aren't, you have additional restrictions compared to me, limiting your freedom. Liberty is not an emotion like safety.
I don't.
I am except for rare occasions like this
Which is why I don't do it
Eh, it's a bit more complex than that, it affects society in many forms, also there is nothing wrong with "getting worked up" over something
Every atheist devolves into arguments about how God is an evil tyrant so it doesn't matter and I would never worship him anyways really quickly. It's hard to imagine why hearing about God would trigger feelings of anxiety and stress if they simply thought he wasn't real.
Too bad humans are a bit more complex, you know, just like people don't feel neutral about Hitler, even though he has been dead for 80 years and has no power today.
Exactly. They have a negative view on God. Why don't atheists just not believe in God and think that if he were real he is a good being? Why do they all have to view him as an evil tyrant?
Why does disbelief require believing that God is immoral and that you are superior aka pride?
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It doesn't. Disbelief comes from not having proof of this Abrahamic God.
The vast majority of atheists when pressed will devolve into "well he's an evil tyrant so I wouldn't worship him." I've seen it more times than I can count. That's why they have such negative emotions when hearing about God not simply that they don't believe in him.
The people that simply don't have belief in God are much more likely to be agnostic or at the very least not as overtly fedora in their brand of atheism.
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Atheism is the lack of belief in God. You don't have to assert God does not exist to be an atheist, you simply have to doubt he exists. And as for other atheists, those are other atheists. Atheists are not a monolith.
Many people have a negative view on Darth fucking Vader, yet we don't see you talking about "why do force-deniers say that he is a bad guy if they dont believe he is real"
The point is that a vast majority of atheists have a major problem with the morality of God maybe even more so than the lack of belief they have in him.
Marianas Trench IQ analogy.
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It's not God specifically it's more the God of the Old testament they would be referring to. Even if you were to make an argument for a creator of the universe you would then have to prove the Christian god is real as opposed to Allah, Brahma, etc.
There is Gnosticism for those that have a problem with the God of the OT.
Islam heralds Jesus as a prophet and also believe he will return on the day of reckoning. He is mentioned more times than Muhammad in the Quran and is quoted more often. Why exactly would his loyal disciples make everything up and lie about him then? And why does Islam seem like a departure from his teachings and more a devolution into the OT days?
Hinduism doesn't have the historicity or historical figures of the Abrahamic religions and it is also paganesque.
To me I believe in Jesus Christ. Why would I believe in a religion that gives such significance to him and not follow him and his followers?
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History could easily be made up tbh. Many scholars openly question the existence of Jesus. But you're free to follow whatever religion you want.
At the very least there is no denying the history of the religious texts and of Christianity. It's quite hard to explain that by denying the historicity of Jesus. The amount of scholars questioning it is very small to the consensus despite how much it will grow. You also have to consider if these people may have an axe to grind.
At the end of the day your knowledge is either shaped by the divine or the world. If you simply listen to and put worldly knowledge on a pedestal then you will never arrive at anything more than full-on materialism.
When I contemplate on Christ's duality I see divinity. Christ the victorious and the everlasting prince of peace. Christ the crucified, helpless and suffering. God yet man both together.
Don't care really. I pray when desperate but that's about it anymore. This world has some beautiful things but also the sickest, most disgusting things. I'm more inclined to believe in an AI that controls the simulation. I believe psychic phenomena. Many ancient "gods" were either aliens or from an unknown civilization similar to if not the "mythical" Atlantis. Human civilization just "sprang up" out of fucking nowhere. Gobekli Tepe is pretty fascinating
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I don't know man sounds like a bunch of made up stories to me.
I mean the existence of the religious texts, figures within Christianity, and the historicity of Christianity.
The OT, NT, Quran, Christianity, Judaism, and Islam are all things that definitely exist.
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Those texts exist yet, and some figures do too, like King David and Mohammed, but some of the miracles mentioned? Eh, I don't know. Talking donkeys, dragons, worldwide flood, virgin giving birth. I understand that's part of the religion but I just don't believe it.
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I understand that you're taking the piss, but God is all just. Throwing a soul in hell, even temporarily, for swearing doesn't seem just.
OK, you're arguing liberty now, not some abstract philosophical concept of some special kind of "free" that I'm supposedly not. Liberty is something different entirely. Specifically, it's freedom from political intervention into your life and private affairs, but fundamentally, liberties are merely state issued freedoms. So even in that sense, you're not truly free, but only as free as the authority allows.
Thr argument you're trying to make is invalid. The kind of freedom you were arguing before presupposes that there are enforceable restrictions that I would have that you wouldn't. This is false. You and I have the same freedoms (liberties). From your point of view, I have additional limitations on my freedoms. This doesn't make any sense, as I'm exercising the exact same liberty (freedom of religion/expression) that you have, except it simply appears like a lifestyle choice of practicing some religion or holding some set of beliefs, as far as the state is concerned.
go read the case for christ if you want to be introduced into why historians actually believe christ existed,his ressurection etc etc.The scholars who don't believe that jesus christ existed usually use very flimsy *evidence*.I also didn't believe in christ until i started reading about him
I dont know yet
Messiah or Moshiach (meshech: מֶ֫שֶׁך mešeḵ "price" or "precious"). Gog, of the land Magog, chief prince of Meshek (meskheth) - today’s Meskheti (moschia in ancient sources). All the names are Georgian!
Jesus' original name was "yeshua" and as Jews did not recognize him as saviour (moshia). Moshiach played a leading role in the earliest Georgian formation.
I’m agnostic (unsure) but being an incel has led to me believe there most likely is no God
(((Greycels))) at the satanic shit again I see
Maybe so, but this is irrelevant as fuck
Marianas Trench depth in centimeters IQ analogy
I think he exists, but I don't think he loves me, nor do I worship him
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