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Do You Believe in GOD? I do NOT and this is why.

Jailbaitmaxxer

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God has a shitload of serious problems:

The paradox of omnipotence (Can God create a rock so heavy He cannot lift it?)

The problem of divine foreknowledge and human freedom (If God knows the future, is free will an illusion?)

The issue of eternal punishment for finite sins

The challenge of reconciling an immutable God with a changing universe

The question of God’s motivation to create (Why would a perfect being create anything at all?)

The argument from non-cognitivism (Is "God" even a coherent concept?)

The moral arbitrariness of divine command theory (If morality is based on God’s will, is it truly objective?)

The simulation hypothesis (Could our universe be a simulated reality created by an entity mistaken for God?)

The challenge of an infinite regress (Who created God?)

The issue of a timeless God interacting with a temporal world

The paradox of divine simplicity (How can God be simple yet possess attributes like omniscience, omnipotence, etc.?)

The question of theodicy in the context of an all-loving God allowing natural disasters

The problem of subjective versus objective morality in the absence of a divine lawgiver

The contingency argument (Why does God exist necessarily rather than contingently?)

The dilemma of God’s emotional capacity (Can a perfect being feel emotions without imperfection?)

The logical problem of evil (How can an all-powerful, all-knowing, and all-good god allow evil to exist?)

The evidential problem of evil (The sheer amount and degree of suffering in the world seem inconsistent with a benevolent god)

The problem of natural evil (Why would a good god allow suffering from natural disasters, diseases, or other non-human-caused events?)

The problem of gratuitous evil (Why would a god allow evil that seems to serve no greater purpose?)

The challenge of animal suffering (Why would an all-good god allow non-human creatures to suffer, especially without moral agency?)

The issue of free will defense (Does free will justify all types of evil, including extreme suffering?)

The inconsistency of divine intervention (Why does god seem to intervene in some cases of evil but not in others?)

The problem of eternal evil (How can eternal punishment in hell be reconciled with a loving god?)

The problem of child suffering (How can the suffering of innocent children be justified in a world governed by a benevolent god?)

The challenge of the hiddenness of God in the face of suffering (Why does God seem absent when people are in the most pain?)

The paradox of omnibenevolence and omnipotence (If God is all-good and all-powerful, why is evil necessary at all?)

The problem of moral evil (Why would an all-knowing god create beings capable of committing heinous acts?)

The challenge of divine plurality (Why should one specific god be chosen over others?)

Intra-religious contradictions (How can different denominations within the same religion all claim to have the truth?)

The issue of conflicting moral teachings across religions (Which moral code is correct if gods teach different values?)

The question of exclusive salvation (Why would a just god favor one religion or denomination over billions of others?)

The relativity of religious belief (If religion depends on culture and geography, does it reflect truth or social conditioning?)

The problem of non-believers (Why would an all-loving god allow millions to live without knowledge of the "correct" faith?)

The issue of divine justice (Can eternal punishment be justified for finite transgressions?)

The problem of religiously motivated violence (How can one god allow or inspire conflicting religious wars?)

The challenge of syncretism (How do we account for overlapping or merged gods and beliefs in history?)

The problem of religious exclusivity (Why would an all-knowing god allow multiple religions if only one is true?)

Lack of empirical evidence

Subjectivity of religious experiences

Contradictions between different religious texts

Historical changes in the concept of God

The existence of non-theistic ethical systems

The issue of divine hiddenness

Incompatibility with scientific explanations (e.g., evolution, cosmology)

Moral dilemmas in religious texts

The Euthyphro dilemma (is something good because God commands it, or does God command it because it's good?)

The problem of conflicting revelations across religions

The challenge of free will vs. divine omniscience

Cultural and geographical influence on religious beliefs

The anthropomorphic projection of human qualities onto God

Non-belief and the argument from non-theistic civilizations

The lack of consensus on religious experiences
 
No i don't just like i don't believe in Santa or unicorns
 
I'm more like Jung, I don't need to believe it, I know it exists.
 
No i don't just like i don't believe in Santa or unicorns
There is a difference between anthropocentric fantasy and a Being ontologically aligned with the concept of essential knowledge in its form of Being.

God cannot be interpreted as He is, seen by us in an anthropological way, but rather as He is not, apophatic theology, otherwise, in many cases, a homonym appears.
 
There is a difference between anthropocentric fantasy and a Being ontologically aligned with the concept of essential knowledge in its form of Being.

God cannot be interpreted as He is, seen by us in an anthropological way, but rather as He is not, apophatic theology, otherwise, in many cases, a homonym appears.
No there isn't a difference between any God Santa Unicorns Vampires all have zero proof
 
No there isn't a difference between any God Santa Unicorns Vampires all have zero proof
You don't know what I said, forget it.
 
There is a difference between anthropocentric fantasy and a Being ontologically aligned with the concept of essential knowledge in its form of Being.

God cannot be interpreted as He is, seen by us in an anthropological way, but rather as He is not, apophatic theology, otherwise, in many cases, a homonym appears.
Define "God"
 
Define God
It is impossible, God is an ontological Being aligned with the concept of knowledge, it is not something that can be defined in an anthropocentric way, and if it were defined it would be something material in the objective view of the human being, if God used an image, He would not be God.
 
Define "God"
Apophatic theology, idiot, I already mentioned this before.
It is impossible, God is an ontological Being aligned with the concept of knowledge, it is not something that can be defined in an anthropocentric way, and if it were defined it would be something material in the objective view of the human being, if God used an image, He would not be God.
There is a difference between anthropocentric fantasy and a Being ontologically aligned with the concept of essential knowledge in its form of Being.

God cannot be interpreted as He is, seen by us in an anthropological way, but rather as He is not, apophatic theology, otherwise, in many cases, a homonym appears.
 
Define God
Definition of the God of the Bible:

The God of the Bible is conceived as an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent personal being who is the creator and sustainer of the universe. This God exists necessarily and is eternally transcendent, existing beyond space and time, yet is also immanent, actively involved in the world and in human affairs. God is described as immutable (unchanging) and simple (not composed of parts), with attributes that include love, justice, mercy, and holiness. As a moral authority, God is seen as the ultimate source of objective moral values and duties, and His will is considered the foundation for what is right and wrong.

The God of the Bible is self-revealing, making Himself known through scripture, prophecy, and the person of Jesus Christ. This God is understood to be relational, desiring a personal connection with human beings. The trinitarian concept within Christianity describes God as one essence in three distinct persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The teleology (purpose) in creation is believed to be driven by God's will, intending for humans to glorify and have fellowship with Him. The God of the Bible is also seen as sovereign, meaning that all events are under His control, yet this sovereignty is said to be compatible with human free will.

Definition of God as the Explanation of Reality:

In philosophical discourse, God is sometimes posited as a metaphysical necessity—the ultimate ground of being that explains the existence of the universe or multiverse. This conception of God may not refer to a personal being, but rather to an entity that is the foundational principle of reality. God in this sense is considered eternal and self-existent, requiring no cause, and is the brute fact upon which all other facts depend. This God is omnipotent in the sense of being the source of all physical laws and constants, and omniscient in that all potential states of reality are known within this entity.

This version of God is often described as transcendent, existing outside the bounds of time and space, yet also immanent because the universe/multiverse emerges from or is sustained by this foundational reality. The necessity of this God implies that, without this being, nothing else could exist; it is the ultimate reason why there is something rather than nothing. This conception of God does not necessarily imply moral attributes or personal intentions, but instead may be understood as a cosmic principle or force that orders and underpins the universe, giving rise to natural laws and the emergence of complexity, including life and consciousness.

In explaining the fine-tuning of the universe, this God may serve as the origin of teleological order, whether through direct design or as an inherent quality of the underlying metaphysical structure. In this framework, God is considered the final explanation, a point beyond which no further inquiry can proceed, and from which all causal chains are derived.
 
Apophatic theology, idiot, I already mentioned this before.
Well that's stupid because you are trying to use logic and language to describe God which according to you is something "out of this world" and therefore doesn't follow this world's rules (such as logic and language) which is contradictory
 
Definition of the God of the Bible:

The God of the Bible is conceived as an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent personal being who is the creator and sustainer of the universe. This God exists necessarily and is eternally transcendent, existing beyond space and time, yet is also immanent, actively involved in the world and in human affairs. God is described as immutable (unchanging) and simple (not composed of parts), with attributes that include love, justice, mercy, and holiness. As a moral authority, God is seen as the ultimate source of objective moral values and duties, and His will is considered the foundation for what is right and wrong.

The God of the Bible is self-revealing, making Himself known through scripture, prophecy, and the person of Jesus Christ. This God is understood to be relational, desiring a personal connection with human beings. The trinitarian concept within Christianity describes God as one essence in three distinct persons: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The teleology (purpose) in creation is believed to be driven by God's will, intending for humans to glorify and have fellowship with Him. The God of the Bible is also seen as sovereign, meaning that all events are under His control, yet this sovereignty is said to be compatible with human free will.

Definition of God as the Explanation of Reality:

In philosophical discourse, God is sometimes posited as a metaphysical necessity—the ultimate ground of being that explains the existence of the universe or multiverse. This conception of God may not refer to a personal being, but rather to an entity that is the foundational principle of reality. God in this sense is considered eternal and self-existent, requiring no cause, and is the brute fact upon which all other facts depend. This God is omnipotent in the sense of being the source of all physical laws and constants, and omniscient in that all potential states of reality are known within this entity.

This version of God is often described as transcendent, existing outside the bounds of time and space, yet also immanent because the universe/multiverse emerges from or is sustained by this foundational reality. The necessity of this God implies that, without this being, nothing else could exist; it is the ultimate reason why there is something rather than nothing. This conception of God does not necessarily imply moral attributes or personal intentions, but instead may be understood as a cosmic principle or force that orders and underpins the universe, giving rise to natural laws and the emergence of complexity, including life and consciousness.

In explaining the fine-tuning of the universe, this God may serve as the origin of teleological order, whether through direct design or as an inherent quality of the underlying metaphysical structure. In this framework, God is considered the final explanation, a point beyond which no further inquiry can proceed, and from which all causal chains are derived.
Oh yea God defined this way is total bs as you already pointed out
 
Well that's stupid because you are trying to use logic and language to describe God which according to you is something "out of this world" and therefore doesn't follow this world's rules (such as logic and language) which is contradictory
This is the namesake. In addition to the reactionary literature of this tradition.


Religions are made up of traditions in their literature and oral knowledge. The word is a homonym used in this context to separate creation from the Creator, it is not the same one I use in relation to supposed “definitions” of God, God is not defined through my understanding of the verb, apophatic theology focuses on what God is not, it is different from the objective of human definition, as I said.
 
There is a difference between anthropocentric fantasy and a Being ontologically aligned with the concept of essential knowledge in its form of Being.

God cannot be interpreted as He is, seen by us in an anthropological way, but rather as He is not, apophatic theology, otherwise, in many cases, a homonym appears.
Why should there be a necessarily existing principle or entity at all? Is it possible that everything is contingent, including the supposed "necessary" God?

If God is considered a brute fact to explain reality, why should we stop there? Why not consider the universe or multiverse as the brute fact instead?

How does positing God as the source of natural laws explain why those laws have their specific forms, and not others? Does this introduce a new layer of complexity without solving the issue?

If God is invoked to explain why the universe is fine-tuned for life, does this lead to the question of why God would create a fine-tuned universe in the first place? Is this explanation any less speculative than physical mechanisms like the multiverse?

Why should the universe require a necessary foundation, and if God is deemed necessary, what makes God’s necessity different from any other hypothetical entity’s necessity?

If God is presented as the final cause to stop an infinite regress, why is God exempt from needing a cause? Could the same exemption be applied directly to the universe?

If God is defined as an impersonal force or principle, how does this concept truly differ from abstract natural laws? Does this still leave the question of why those principles exist?

If God is self-explanatory, what does that mean? Is it logically possible for something to be the cause or reason of its own existence, and if so, why must this apply to God?

If God exists outside of time and space, how does this entity causally interact with a temporal, spatial universe? Does invoking transcendence add more mystery than clarity?

How can there be purpose or direction in the universe if God is not a conscious, intentional being? Does this concept of God imply a form of determinism without agency?

Is positing God as the simplest explanation valid, or does this claim ignore the complexity involved in defining and understanding what God is?

If God makes the universe comprehensible, why would a universe created by or grounded in God be any more understandable than one that is self-explanatory or emergent?

If God is said to be the reason why causality exists, does this explanation provide real insight, or does it just reframe the issue without resolving it?

If multiple universes exist, how does God explain the necessity of the entire multiverse system, and does this imply God has a specific reason for creating such a structure?

How does God account for the complexity observed in the universe, and does invoking a complex entity like God really simplify the explanation for complexity?

Can the concept of God genuinely explain existence, or does it just defer the question of "why" to a different, equally complex entity?

If God is said to exist necessarily or as a self-existent being, is this just a circular assertion that sidesteps the need for a deeper explanation?

Does attributing the existence of abstract objects, like numbers and logical truths, to God actually explain their nature, or does it just attribute them to a different kind of mystery?

Does invoking God as a universal principle go beyond what is empirically or logically justified, turning metaphysics into speculation?

If God is considered to direct the universe towards certain ends, how can this direction be meaningful without some form of consciousness or intention?

If God is presented as the ultimate source of causation, does this truly explain what causation is, or does it just place the problem one step further back?

If God is the final answer to "why" questions, is this truly an end to philosophical inquiry, or is it a way to avoid deeper engagement with the complexities of existence?

If God is the grounding for logical laws, does this imply that logic itself is contingent on God? If so, could these laws have been different, or are they necessary and independent?

If God is responsible for a multiverse with infinite variations, does this explain why all possibilities are realized, or does it raise questions about the selection process?

Can the idea of metaphysical necessity, when applied to God, be clearly defined, or is it an abstract placeholder for our lack of understanding?

How can God be truly independent, self-sufficient, and the ultimate explanation if these attributes are not clearly understood or defined?

If God is declared a brute fact to end the chain of explanations, what makes this approach more valid than positing the universe as a brute fact?

Is the idea of God as a metaphysical principle a meaningful explanation, or is it a result of human cognitive tendencies to seek agency and purpose even where there may be none?

Why assume that there must be an ultimate explanation at all, and if God is posited as this, does it address the deeper metaphysical question or simply defer it?

Does introducing God as a principle to explain reality add more to the conceptual structure of the universe than it simplifies, violating the principle of parsimony?
 
This is the namesake. In addition to the reactionary literature of this tradition.


Religions are made up of traditions in their literature and oral knowledge. The word is a homonym used in this context to separate creation from the Creator, it is not the same one I use in relation to supposed “definitions” of God, God is not defined through my understanding of the verb, apophatic theology focuses on what God is not, it is different from the objective of human definition, as I said.
But you are still describing God when you say what he is not
 
It is impossible, God is an ontological Being aligned with the concept of knowledge, it is not something that can be defined in an anthropocentric way, and if it were defined it would be something material in the objective view of the human being, if God used an image, He would not be God.
What prevents absolute nonexistence?

Some words on that:

The Principle of Sufficient Reason: According to this principle, everything must have a reason or cause for its existence. If absolute nonexistence were possible, we would need to understand why it doesn't obtain. The fact that something exists rather than nothing suggests that there is some underlying necessity or reason that favors existence over nonexistence. However, critics might argue that this principle itself lacks justification when applied to the question of "why is there something rather than nothing?"

Metaphysical Necessity: One possibility is that existence is a necessary condition. That is, reality (in some form) must exist by necessity, and absolute nonexistence is not a metaphysically possible state. In this view, something must exist because nonexistence is inherently impossible or incoherent. This leads to the idea that existence is a brute fact—something that doesn’t require a cause or reason, simply because its negation is not viable.

Quantum Fluctuations and Physics: Some interpretations of quantum mechanics suggest that particles can spontaneously appear from what we think of as a "vacuum." In this sense, "nothing" may not be truly empty but rather a field of potentiality. If these fluctuations are an intrinsic feature of reality, it could mean that absolute nonexistence is unstable—something will always emerge from even the slightest quantum vacuum state. However, this does not explain why the laws of quantum mechanics themselves exist or why there is a field of potential at all.

Logical Necessity: Another perspective is that "nothingness" may not be a logically coherent concept. If the concept of "nothing" entails contradictions, then absolute nonexistence would be impossible by definition. For instance, some philosophers argue that for there to be "nothing," there must be the possibility of "something," because the concept of nothing implies an absence, which itself is a kind of state. Thus, absolute nonexistence cannot be a real possibility.

The Existence of Laws or Principles: If there are fundamental laws or principles that govern reality, their existence might inherently prevent absolute nonexistence. For example, if there is a law that causes particles to appear, or a principle that states "something must exist," then absolute nonexistence would be precluded by these rules. However, this line of thought raises questions about why these laws or principles exist at all, and whether they themselves are contingent or necessary.

Mathematical Existence: Some theorists propose that existence is akin to a mathematical truth. Just as mathematical objects exist in a sense regardless of whether they are physically instantiated, perhaps existence is a kind of abstract, mathematical necessity. From this perspective, the universe is not so much a "thing" as it is a structure that arises from mathematical rules that cannot not exist. But why these structures should manifest as physical reality is still an open question.

Anthropic Principle: From the anthropic viewpoint, we can only ask why something exists rather than nothing because we exist to ask the question. This principle suggests that in any reality where beings can ask about existence, there must already be something to allow for their existence. However, this is more of a selection effect and doesn’t directly address why there is something rather than absolute nonexistence.

The Concept of Eternal Existence: If something has always existed, then absolute nonexistence was never a possibility. In this view, time itself might be an eternal feature, or there might be some aspect of reality (matter, energy, information) that has no beginning and no end. Thus, the question of preventing nonexistence becomes moot because there was never a "moment" where nothingness could have been the case.

Cyclical Models of the Universe: Some cosmological models suggest that the universe goes through cycles of creation, expansion, contraction, and rebirth. If such a process is eternal, then absolute nonexistence might be impossible because the universe (or multiverse) is caught in a perpetual cycle where it never truly ceases to exist.

The Nature of Being: Existential and metaphysical perspectives sometimes frame existence as the fundamental default state, arguing that "being" is more primary than "non-being." In this view, existence asserts itself by nature, while nonexistence is the anomaly that requires explanation. Philosophers like Heidegger have posited that asking why there is something rather than nothing is one of the core questions of metaphysics, but that perhaps "being" is just more fundamental than "nothingness."

Philosophical Skepticism: Some argue that the question "what prevents absolute nonexistence?" may not be fully answerable. It might be a reflection of the limits of human cognition or language. In this view, our brains are wired to think in terms of cause and effect, presence and absence, and so the concept of absolute nonexistence might be beyond our intellectual grasp, forever leaving us with a mystery that can’t be resolved.
 
I know what you're saying it's just a loose uninteresting definition of god
Completely meaningless too because it wouldn't be a personal god nor would it be possible to understand it.
 
Why should there be a necessarily existing principle or entity at all? Is it possible that everything is contingent, including the supposed "necessary" God?

If God is considered a brute fact to explain reality, why should we stop there? Why not consider the universe or multiverse as the brute fact instead?

How does positing God as the source of natural laws explain why those laws have their specific forms, and not others? Does this introduce a new layer of complexity without solving the issue?

If God is invoked to explain why the universe is fine-tuned for life, does this lead to the question of why God would create a fine-tuned universe in the first place? Is this explanation any less speculative than physical mechanisms like the multiverse?

Why should the universe require a necessary foundation, and if God is deemed necessary, what makes God’s necessity different from any other hypothetical entity’s necessity?

If God is presented as the final cause to stop an infinite regress, why is God exempt from needing a cause? Could the same exemption be applied directly to the universe?

If God is defined as an impersonal force or principle, how does this concept truly differ from abstract natural laws? Does this still leave the question of why those principles exist?

If God is self-explanatory, what does that mean? Is it logically possible for something to be the cause or reason of its own existence, and if so, why must this apply to God?

If God exists outside of time and space, how does this entity causally interact with a temporal, spatial universe? Does invoking transcendence add more mystery than clarity?

How can there be purpose or direction in the universe if God is not a conscious, intentional being? Does this concept of God imply a form of determinism without agency?

Is positing God as the simplest explanation valid, or does this claim ignore the complexity involved in defining and understanding what God is?

If God makes the universe comprehensible, why would a universe created by or grounded in God be any more understandable than one that is self-explanatory or emergent?

If God is said to be the reason why causality exists, does this explanation provide real insight, or does it just reframe the issue without resolving it?

If multiple universes exist, how does God explain the necessity of the entire multiverse system, and does this imply God has a specific reason for creating such a structure?

How does God account for the complexity observed in the universe, and does invoking a complex entity like God really simplify the explanation for complexity?

Can the concept of God genuinely explain existence, or does it just defer the question of "why" to a different, equally complex entity?

If God is said to exist necessarily or as a self-existent being, is this just a circular assertion that sidesteps the need for a deeper explanation?

Does attributing the existence of abstract objects, like numbers and logical truths, to God actually explain their nature, or does it just attribute them to a different kind of mystery?

Does invoking God as a universal principle go beyond what is empirically or logically justified, turning metaphysics into speculation?

If God is considered to direct the universe towards certain ends, how can this direction be meaningful without some form of consciousness or intention?

If God is presented as the ultimate source of causation, does this truly explain what causation is, or does it just place the problem one step further back?

If God is the final answer to "why" questions, is this truly an end to philosophical inquiry, or is it a way to avoid deeper engagement with the complexities of existence?

If God is the grounding for logical laws, does this imply that logic itself is contingent on God? If so, could these laws have been different, or are they necessary and independent?

If God is responsible for a multiverse with infinite variations, does this explain why all possibilities are realized, or does it raise questions about the selection process?

Can the idea of metaphysical necessity, when applied to God, be clearly defined, or is it an abstract placeholder for our lack of understanding?

How can God be truly independent, self-sufficient, and the ultimate explanation if these attributes are not clearly understood or defined?

If God is declared a brute fact to end the chain of explanations, what makes this approach more valid than positing the universe as a brute fact?

Is the idea of God as a metaphysical principle a meaningful explanation, or is it a result of human cognitive tendencies to seek agency and purpose even where there may be none?

Why assume that there must be an ultimate explanation at all, and if God is posited as this, does it address the deeper metaphysical question or simply defer it?

Does introducing God as a principle to explain reality add more to the conceptual structure of the universe than it simplifies, violating the principle of parsimony?

The universe doesn't need to be here. There is no reason why you, or me, or them, or anything, has to be here. The Supreme Reality (i.e., G-d) does not need anything to exist – as Maimonides explains at the beginning of his work Fundamentals of the Torah. But when G‑d brought everything into existence, He did so with the desire to be found within His creation and invested His entire Being in that desire. This desire is an essential element of reality. Call it purpose. It unfolds throughout the story and finally blossoms openly. Explaining this purpose requires context, which is to say we need a longer answer.
Who raised this problem, anyway?

Contrary to popular misconception, this is not a question asked by all thinking people throughout time. Because, although you may not realize it, your question goes through a whole set of presuppositions. The very fact that this doubt bothers you means that you have – perhaps unconsciously – internalized the Torah's view of reality. That is, that the world was brought to life by a Creator.

Because if the world wasn't created, if it's "just here," then why ask about purpose? As one of the greats of modern Buddhism said: "I see no purpose in this whole cosmos." Why should he? Things that are "just here" don't need a purpose.

But the Torah tells us that the universe was created. Time has a beginning. If so, the notion of purpose has meaning: Why did things begin? Why exist something and not just leave nothing alone?

Secondly, you are assuming that there is a consciousness behind creation. Consciousness means "a decisive process." Things do not simply happen through a linear chain of causality – A, therefore B; B, therefore C; to infinity. Nor do they occur "by chance" (whatever that means). There is a project behind the cosmos and that project is not inevitable. Again, this is the Torah's stance: "In the beginning G‑d created" – not, "In the beginning, things just happened."

As an aside, our observations nowadays also support this. The structure of the universe is open to us like never before, and, you see, all the evidence points to a purposeful universe. In the words of Paul Davies, one of the best expositors of what is being called, The Anthropic Model of the Universe: "…there is an incredible delicacy in the balance between gravity and electromagnetism within a star. Calculations show that changes in the strength of either just by one part in 104 it would be a catastrophe for stars like the sun... The sheer improbability that such so-called coincidences could be the result of a series of exceptionally fortunate accidents has encouraged many scientists to agree with Hoyle that 'the universe is a work planned'... If the universe had been created with slightly different laws, not only would we (or anyone) not be here to see it, but it is doubtful that there would be any complex structure at all."

Another delight coming from pure modern physics: physicist Brandon Carter records that the speed of light, multiplied by Planck's constant, and divided by the square of the electron's charge, is approximately equal to 137. Carter states that if this coefficient were just a little larger than that, then all stars would be blue giants and there would be no planets, much less living beings. If it were a little smaller, all the stars would be red dwarfs and therefore the planets orbiting around them would be too cold to support any kind of organism. The speed of light was apparently fixed at the beginning for the good of the entire show.

There are a lot of these delicacies. The unique way in which water expands when freezing; the fantastic coincidences that allow our planet to have its magical, protective system, distributing the heat and humidity that give life, called the atmosphere; the accuracy of the earth's orbit and distance from the sun; the ratio of water to dry land on the surface – are too many coincidences to let the modern god of chance have a chance of credibility. A conscientious Creator with a design in mind seems a much more elegant hypothesis. The question: "What is the purpose of this project?" can be structured in other words: "We can already see the project in space – can we peek at the project in time?"

But now, let's get back to the subject of context:

How big is the problem?

The Torah creates the problem of purpose, and the Torah makes the problem almost impossible to solve. Why? Because the Torah claims that G-d, the Creator of all this, is perfect. Perfect means "having nothing missing." Eternal Polynesian Summer. No defects. No need. Everything is there. Not only is everything we can imagine in the supreme state of perfection – supreme wisdom, supreme knowledge, supreme creativity, supreme beauty – but also that which we cannot imagine, because it is not part of our world.

Purpose, on the other hand, implies a deficiency yearning for compensation, i.e., "I don't have it – how can I get it?" I need food – I eat. I need shelter – I build a house. I need love – I start a relationship. So human relationships, eating and building, these all have a purpose.

G-d is not hungry. He doesn't need to worry about getting wet in the rain. He can do just fine without starting a relationship. He is perfect. This is what makes him G-d. Therefore, if G‑d needs nothing, why does He need a world?

Interestingly, the Zohar presents a reason for creation along these lines. In an oft-quoted passage, the Zohar (Parashat Bô, 42b) mentions that the world was created: "…so that there would be creatures who would know Him in all the measure by which He directs His world, with kindness and with judgment, according to the acts of humanity . For if His light did not spread to each of His creations, how would He be known?

Rabbi Chaim Vital, an important spokesman for the Ari, explains the depth of this passage. Without the act of creation, all of G-d's infinite perfections would be in a state of potential (Etz Chaim, Shaar HaHakdamot, Hakdama 3). Creation is like an artist's expression, making potential become reality.

Of course, this reason is absolutely true, as it is part of our Holy Torah, which is all truth. But Chassidic masters insist that this cannot be the ultimate purpose. Because it still places human limitations on an unlimited G-d.

As Rabbi Sholom Dovber of Lubavitch ("The Rashab") emphasizes: "If G-d is truly perfect in every way, then He does not miss even the perfection that comes with potentials being realized." He is the artist and the art in a perfect whole. In Rashab's classic statement: For a created being, what is potential is not true. But Above, this does not happen. Potential is not a lack of achievement. The potential and the true exist as one. (Sefer Hamaamarim 5666; see the Rebbe's Likutei Sichot, vol. VI, p. 18-25).

The thing is, G-d doesn't even need to be an artist – whatever artistic expression might give Him. He is already there without needing to do anything.

More reasonable argumentation

Rabbi Chaim Vital gives another reason: "When He willed, Blessed be His Name, to create the world to do good to His creatures, so that they might recognize His greatness and merit of being a vehicle for that which is above, connect with Him, Blessed be he." (Eitz Chaim, Shaar HaKlalim).

G-d is good, therefore he creates. This is taking things a little further: being good is more than self-expression, more than being an artist. Both the artist and the philanthropist donate. But while the artist is driven by the urge to showcase his talent, the philanthropist is driven by the needs of others. For the artist, the audience has no intrinsic value, other than as a showcase for his art. The philanthropist, however, is concerned about more than simply giving – he is concerned that someone is receiving. If you are donating food, you are concerned that people no longer go hungry. If you are financing education, you are concerned that students are no longer ignorant. The personal world of the recipient is of paramount importance to him.

This reason avoids the pitfall of the previous reason: It is no use if G-d says, "If there were created beings, I would be good to them." It really needs to happen, they have to really be there and receive the kindness. That's what being good is. Therefore, a world came into existence by implication of G-d's absolute goodness. Again, in the language of Kabbalah (because it is a very elegant language to discuss these matters), Infinite Light is not enough – there must be vessels to absorb that light and react to it, i.e., a world.

All of humanity's struggle and tribulation can be explained this way: Why do we have free will? Why must we walk blindly in the dark? Why all this conflict? All because G-d is good and desires the supreme good for us. "Free bread" – say the Sages – is the "bread of shame." If you truly want to give to others, give them the opportunity to earn the gift. This is dignified bread. This is why G‑d allows us to struggle, so that we can have a sense of ownership of the fruits of our toil.

Bigger problems

Yes, but…
The truth is that we still haven't shown half the problem. You see, ours is not the only world. The Torah talks about angels and souls. Angels appear from the other world to speak with Avraham, Lot, Hagar, Joseph, and even to fight with Jacob. So it's not about "G-d is here and here is our world." There are internships in the meantime.

Even the best of worlds is a disappointment to a perfect G-d. Creativity, when you are perfect, doesn't mean doing more – it means doing less. As Kabbalists would say, G-d creates more with shadows than with light.

It is a frictional process: It begins with infinite light. Then, He creates a state of consciousness that is somehow empty of His presence. Then He draws in that void a suggestion of infinite light, to give that consciousness form and life. This is a world. He repeats the process, creating a vacuum again, then filling it with an infinitesimal hint of light from the previous world. Another world. The process is called tzimtzum and continues through infinite stages, until the lowest possible stage arrives, i.e., you won't like this... our world!

Why is our world as inferior as possible? Because the whole concept of our world is simply to be a world. Appear entirely self-contained. As if he were "simply here" (as that Buddhist said).

Look outside. Maybe you see a tree. What does the tree say? Unless you're one of those psychics who spend the afternoon talking to trees, it says only one thing: "Here I am. Here I was. I'm simply here." Sure, human beings who use their minds will read beauty and meaning in that tree. But that has to do with the inherent spiritual nature of the human being. The tree, by itself, like everything else in the earthly world, has only one thing to say: "I am here." In fact, this is what even we human beings call "reality." If we think about it, human life is an even better example of what I'm talking about. More than the tree. Or even a rock. Because human beings are the ultimate in "just being."

Look out the window and see all those busy human beings. See how everyone goes about their business with the same air of self-centeredness. It's not something to be embarrassed about – it's just the way it is. We can feel each other's emotions, we can feel each other's intellect, but when it comes to the ego, for each of us, there is only one ego in the entire cosmos, and that is ours. Six billion "you", "them" and "them". And only one "I."

The Renaissance philosopher Rabbi Judah Loewe (the Maharal of Prague) emphasizes this (in his commentary on Ethics of the Fathers 3:2): Every human being – the first man, the child, the guy lying in the gutter, the most powerful dictator of History – they all share this insight: "The universe revolves around me." Yes, we can see a little beyond this or at least hide it under the veneer of social etiquette. But just as surely as there are bones in our body, that ego will always be at the heart of what we do. It is the defining factor of our world.

If our window opened to a higher world, things wouldn't look like this. In a higher world, what you see as a tree would be an angel. "Angel" – malach in Hebrew – means messenger. A messenger saying, "I am a creation. I am telling you something about how I was created and what gives me life." There, the creations are more like light reflecting its source, or information communicating from a higher transmitter.

But in our world, no part of this message is successful. With all the encoding, compression, filtering and distortion along the way, it ends up in something garbled and garbled. Which results in egos. Including egos that completely deny having a Creator. Some even believe that they themselves are G-d, having created everything in themselves. (You've probably already encountered some of these – most commonly seen on city streets between 5 and 6 o'clock in the afternoon).

Therefore, as Rashab comments, Rabbi Chaim Vital's reason is a good reason for a world much higher than ours. As in the first emanation of a world. But then, why continue the chain of concealment and distortion to get to ours? To be good and pleasant, did He really have to create a place that became such a dark and horrible mess? Does he need to create a reality that he claims is all there is? Does he need to create egos? Create some basic emanations, be good to them and stop there!

The real problem

All of this, without mentioning the most fundamental of arguments: Who decided that being good to others is a good thing? Who created "goodness" and its definitions? He! Along with all the rules of logic and rationality. So we're back to where we started: is there a reasonable reason for logic and rationality and goodness and containers of Infinite Light or anything else to exist?

Maimonides, in his Guide for the Perplexed, answers a firm no. For all the reasons stated above and even more. There is no reason. Full stop. He doesn't need our world. He doesn't need us. But there is purpose. Absolute purpose.

Now, let's get to the really short answer:
As we said, G-d has no need or "reason" to create a world. He just did it. But when He did it, it was with a purpose. He decided to wish he had two opposites at once:
An earthly, real world…
…discovering your Creator in all your aspects.

In the language of ancient Midrash:
"He desired a world for Himself in the lowest of worlds"

Now the explanation:
"The lowest of worlds." As we explained above, it is our world. In terms of "signal clarity" – clear information about your source – you can't go lower than that and still have something exist. That’s what makes it feel so real – the lack of apparent connection to its source. And that is what makes it so important, to the point that within it lies the purpose of all things. If this seems counterintuitive, that's because it is. Get used to it. From here on, all our conclusions will be based on this counterintuitive principle. It's okay that it's counterintuitive because, as you remember, it's not reasonable. G-d does not need a home. He's perfectly fine doing nothing. He just wanted to wish it. And He can decide to want whatever He decides to want. This does not mean – and it is important to point out – that He does not really want this. On the contrary, have you ever had to deal with an irrational desire? Reason has its limits, but when things are decided "just because," you are no longer dealing with something you can change. You are dealing with the complete person.

Creation contains only the tiniest trace of a ray of a reflection of the Creator's light. We are all unnecessary nothings. But in His desire for His creation and this fulfillment, there He is in His fullness.

Elegance

Counterintuitive. But immaculately elegant. First of all, no other answer so well expresses what Kabbalists call "the simplicity of the infinite." The Infinite, blessed be He, is beyond reason, beyond the search for perfection. All these are nothing more than fictions of his own design. Purposefully placing purpose in the lowest of worlds is a poignant expression of this point. In fact, it is the supreme expression of the Essential infinity.

Second, it makes a lot of sense of the patterns we see throughout the cosmos. And throughout the entire scheme of the cosmos – the Torah. Everywhere is the marriage of opposites, this process of the highest meeting the lowest, the center meeting the peripheral, the One being expressed in the many. No one has addressed this topic more than the Lubavitcher Rebbe, whose approach to every problem in the Torah and in the world is to frame it in the context of its dynamics: The Essence of All Things desires a home within the most concrete reality. The fusion of opposites, too, is a magnificent expression of that Essence that is beyond all binary configurations of yes and no, of being and not being.

Thirdly, although it is beyond reason – for it is reason that reason comes into existence in the first place – it is still something we can intimately relate to. After all, we, too, desire an address. Our entire life and our irrational lust for life is all about this desire to find ourselves within a concrete reality.

What are the counterintuitive implications of this counterintuitive desire to have a home in this dump?

On the one hand, the metaphysical universe has just been turned upside down. The angels and the highest worlds revolve around the earth. They are subject to us here. As the Midrash (Song of Songs) tells us, when the heavenly host above wants to know when it is time to sing the songs of the New Light festival, they must come down here to find out what we have decided.

Mishnah says: "Know that which is above you" (da mah l'maalah mimach) and the Maggid of Mezeritch translates: "Know that everything that is above comes from you." As much as they look down on us, all those spiritual beings depend on us for their own sustenance and daily itinerary. On the other hand, forget about climbing. Entering paradise may be more rapturously refreshing than a Pepsi, but it's just a means to an end. Humanity's job is not to be spiritual cosmonauts, but cosmic miners, scanning the heavens for inspiration to continue their work here below. And what is that work below? To plow the fields of earthly life so that it may absorb the rain from above, to plant and gather the seeds of the heavenly deeds done here on earth, to build and sustain a sanctuary to the Highest of all Highs here below in the lowest of all lower. In other words, study Torah, perform mitzvot and endure all the challenges so far.

This is why, according to Nachmanides in his work Shaar Hagmul, the supreme state of the great human journey is not as souls in heaven, but as souls in bodies. At the end of days, he writes, all souls will return to their respective bodies and remain there for eternal happiness.

Concrete revelation

And another thing: building a home in a lower world does not mean that this world now becomes ethereal and angelic. There are already enough angelic and ethereal worlds. No, it must remain as concrete, mundane and absolute as it was created. The only adjustment is that this same worldliness will be perceived as Divine.

This is why the home cannot come from above – built by angels or even people who have nothing to do with the real world. No pre-made goods. If you want a house in Costa Rica, that means a house in Costa Rica built by Costa Ricans with materials from Costa Rica. Same here – and we are the natives. We, the self-centered, materialistic, earthly aboriginals.

Take for example that egocentrism with which we embarrassed everyone at the beginning of this article, that deep feeling we all have that "I am more me." This, in itself, is the greatest revelation of all, something that angels could never touch. After all, where does this idea come from? How did G‑d create such an apparition?

The answer is that the Creator can create something like this, because He Himself is exactly like that: The Supreme Ego. He is the Center of All Things. He is All That Is – for real. And so, when He breathes from Himself into a creature made of earthly clay, that creature feels exactly the same way: Ego. The supreme center of all things.

This is also the origin of that sense of being "simply here." How can a creation appear to be "just here," as if it had always been there? Just because it is the supreme creation of a Creator who is truly Simply Here. In the language of Rabbi Schneur Zalman of Liadi ("The Alter Rebbe") in one of his last writings:

"The Source of all emanations, His existence is of His own being and not the effect of any cause that preceded Him. And therefore, He alone has the ability to create something out of absolute nothing, without any precedent or cause for its existence…” (Tanya, Igueret HaKodesh 20).

Rabbi Schneur Zalman goes on to describe how the supreme expression of this is in the physical earth upon which we walk. And that's why it looks the way it does: Because it is a reflection of ultimate reality.

It turns out that this lower, egocentric world has something that no higher world can offer: The Essence. Furthermore: Not only is G-d's desire for a home directed towards this world of ours - it is the only property appropriate for such zoning. Because Essence simply cannot be expressed anywhere other than within an earthly, concrete, egocentric world. As it is written in the ancient Book of Formation: "The beginning of all things is embedded in their end."

A "dwelling in the underworld," then, does not mean the annihilation of the ego and a darker reality. It simply means that these things will be evaluated for what they really are: The supreme forms of Divine expression.

Practical Application

With all this counterintuition, a practical application is required:
Let's say someone is about to have a meal. Common wisdom would place all possible postures for this exercise between two poles:

The senseless, self-centered stance: "I'm hungry. If I'm hungry, I eat. This food is what I like. I eat what I like. Why? Because when I'm hungry I eat the food I like."

The enlightened, selfless stance. "I'm hungry, but that's not important. I don't even realize that I'm hungry, because I'm so wrapped up in higher metaphysical matters – what is food, anyway? What is hunger? What is a body? What is it me? However, as G-d has commanded me to sustain this body and this is done through food, I will accept a small portion of food to fulfill my obligation."

Which of these fulfills the Creator's purpose in creation?

The answer, of course, is "neither of them." The first stance has a hint of the real world, but no sense that anything other than the human ego lives there. The second has a Higher Consciousness living there, but no real world. Because the subject has suppressed that part of himself that makes him a citizen of this egocentric and inferior kingdom. To achieve the mandate of a "Divine Abode in this lower world," there must be a nexus of these two poles.
So try on a third size option, as I learned from the great master of Chabad thoughtmasters, Rabbi Yoel Kahn:

"I'm hungry. When I'm hungry, I eat. Why? Because that's what earthly beings like me do. And here's the food I like to eat. But wait. I have a purpose. My desire for food has a purpose. Therefore, I will recite a blessing over the food and eat it with the appropriate state of mind that I am eating to fulfill my purpose in life and do many good things.


In this posture, there is a real person, living in a real world, but doing something Divine. And so G‑d says, “Yes! This is what I was looking for!”

Counterintuitive. But doable.
 
I know what you're saying it's just a loose uninteresting definition of god
Maybe it is for you, but it is what literature and its traditions, both oral and handwritten, suggest in its etymology and epistemology.

My goal here is not to convince you of an idea, it is just fundamentally to say something demonstrative.
 
Even if he exists he doesn't care about us. I would say that something might exist but not in form most believe
 
The universe doesn't need to be here. There is no reason why you, or me, or them, or anything, has to be here. The Supreme Reality (i.e., G-d) does not need anything to exist – as Maimonides explains at the beginning of his work Fundamentals of the Torah. But when G‑d brought everything into existence, He did so with the desire to be found within His creation and invested His entire Being in that desire. This desire is an essential element of reality. Call it purpose. It unfolds throughout the story and finally blossoms openly. Explaining this purpose requires context, which is to say we need a longer answer.
Who raised this problem, anyway?

Contrary to popular misconception, this is not a question asked by all thinking people throughout time. Because, although you may not realize it, your question goes through a whole set of presuppositions. The very fact that this doubt bothers you means that you have – perhaps unconsciously – internalized the Torah's view of reality. That is, that the world was brought to life by a Creator.

Because if the world wasn't created, if it's "just here," then why ask about purpose? As one of the greats of modern Buddhism said: "I see no purpose in this whole cosmos." Why should he? Things that are "just here" don't need a purpose.

But the Torah tells us that the universe was created. Time has a beginning. If so, the notion of purpose has meaning: Why did things begin? Why exist something and not just leave nothing alone?

Secondly, you are assuming that there is a consciousness behind creation. Consciousness means "a decisive process." Things do not simply happen through a linear chain of causality – A, therefore B; B, therefore C; to infinity. Nor do they occur "by chance" (whatever that means). There is a project behind the cosmos and that project is not inevitable. Again, this is the Torah's stance: "In the beginning G‑d created" – not, "In the beginning, things just happened."

As an aside, our observations nowadays also support this. The structure of the universe is open to us like never before, and, you see, all the evidence points to a purposeful universe. In the words of Paul Davies, one of the best expositors of what is being called, The Anthropic Model of the Universe: "…there is an incredible delicacy in the balance between gravity and electromagnetism within a star. Calculations show that changes in the strength of either just by one part in 104 it would be a catastrophe for stars like the sun... The sheer improbability that such so-called coincidences could be the result of a series of exceptionally fortunate accidents has encouraged many scientists to agree with Hoyle that 'the universe is a work planned'... If the universe had been created with slightly different laws, not only would we (or anyone) not be here to see it, but it is doubtful that there would be any complex structure at all."

Another delight coming from pure modern physics: physicist Brandon Carter records that the speed of light, multiplied by Planck's constant, and divided by the square of the electron's charge, is approximately equal to 137. Carter states that if this coefficient were just a little larger than that, then all stars would be blue giants and there would be no planets, much less living beings. If it were a little smaller, all the stars would be red dwarfs and therefore the planets orbiting around them would be too cold to support any kind of organism. The speed of light was apparently fixed at the beginning for the good of the entire show.

There are a lot of these delicacies. The unique way in which water expands when freezing; the fantastic coincidences that allow our planet to have its magical, protective system, distributing the heat and humidity that give life, called the atmosphere; the accuracy of the earth's orbit and distance from the sun; the ratio of water to dry land on the surface – are too many coincidences to let the modern god of chance have a chance of credibility. A conscientious Creator with a design in mind seems a much more elegant hypothesis. The question: "What is the purpose of this project?" can be structured in other words: "We can already see the project in space – can we peek at the project in time?"

But now, let's get back to the subject of context:

How big is the problem?

The Torah creates the problem of purpose, and the Torah makes the problem almost impossible to solve. Why? Because the Torah claims that G-d, the Creator of all this, is perfect. Perfect means "having nothing missing." Eternal Polynesian Summer. No defects. No need. Everything is there. Not only is everything we can imagine in the supreme state of perfection – supreme wisdom, supreme knowledge, supreme creativity, supreme beauty – but also that which we cannot imagine, because it is not part of our world.

Purpose, on the other hand, implies a deficiency yearning for compensation, i.e., "I don't have it – how can I get it?" I need food – I eat. I need shelter – I build a house. I need love – I start a relationship. So human relationships, eating and building, these all have a purpose.

G-d is not hungry. He doesn't need to worry about getting wet in the rain. He can do just fine without starting a relationship. He is perfect. This is what makes him G-d. Therefore, if G‑d needs nothing, why does He need a world?

Interestingly, the Zohar presents a reason for creation along these lines. In an oft-quoted passage, the Zohar (Parashat Bô, 42b) mentions that the world was created: "…so that there would be creatures who would know Him in all the measure by which He directs His world, with kindness and with judgment, according to the acts of humanity . For if His light did not spread to each of His creations, how would He be known?

Rabbi Chaim Vital, an important spokesman for the Ari, explains the depth of this passage. Without the act of creation, all of G-d's infinite perfections would be in a state of potential (Etz Chaim, Shaar HaHakdamot, Hakdama 3). Creation is like an artist's expression, making potential become reality.

Of course, this reason is absolutely true, as it is part of our Holy Torah, which is all truth. But Chassidic masters insist that this cannot be the ultimate purpose. Because it still places human limitations on an unlimited G-d.

As Rabbi Sholom Dovber of Lubavitch ("The Rashab") emphasizes: "If G-d is truly perfect in every way, then He does not miss even the perfection that comes with potentials being realized." He is the artist and the art in a perfect whole. In Rashab's classic statement: For a created being, what is potential is not true. But Above, this does not happen. Potential is not a lack of achievement. The potential and the true exist as one. (Sefer Hamaamarim 5666; see the Rebbe's Likutei Sichot, vol. VI, p. 18-25).

The thing is, G-d doesn't even need to be an artist – whatever artistic expression might give Him. He is already there without needing to do anything.

More reasonable argumentation

Rabbi Chaim Vital gives another reason: "When He willed, Blessed be His Name, to create the world to do good to His creatures, so that they might recognize His greatness and merit of being a vehicle for that which is above, connect with Him, Blessed be he." (Eitz Chaim, Shaar HaKlalim).

G-d is good, therefore he creates. This is taking things a little further: being good is more than self-expression, more than being an artist. Both the artist and the philanthropist donate. But while the artist is driven by the urge to showcase his talent, the philanthropist is driven by the needs of others. For the artist, the audience has no intrinsic value, other than as a showcase for his art. The philanthropist, however, is concerned about more than simply giving – he is concerned that someone is receiving. If you are donating food, you are concerned that people no longer go hungry. If you are financing education, you are concerned that students are no longer ignorant. The personal world of the recipient is of paramount importance to him.

This reason avoids the pitfall of the previous reason: It is no use if G-d says, "If there were created beings, I would be good to them." It really needs to happen, they have to really be there and receive the kindness. That's what being good is. Therefore, a world came into existence by implication of G-d's absolute goodness. Again, in the language of Kabbalah (because it is a very elegant language to discuss these matters), Infinite Light is not enough – there must be vessels to absorb that light and react to it, i.e., a world.

All of humanity's struggle and tribulation can be explained this way: Why do we have free will? Why must we walk blindly in the dark? Why all this conflict? All because G-d is good and desires the supreme good for us. "Free bread" – say the Sages – is the "bread of shame." If you truly want to give to others, give them the opportunity to earn the gift. This is dignified bread. This is why G‑d allows us to struggle, so that we can have a sense of ownership of the fruits of our toil.

Bigger problems

Yes, but…
The truth is that we still haven't shown half the problem. You see, ours is not the only world. The Torah talks about angels and souls. Angels appear from the other world to speak with Avraham, Lot, Hagar, Joseph, and even to fight with Jacob. So it's not about "G-d is here and here is our world." There are internships in the meantime.

Even the best of worlds is a disappointment to a perfect G-d. Creativity, when you are perfect, doesn't mean doing more – it means doing less. As Kabbalists would say, G-d creates more with shadows than with light.

It is a frictional process: It begins with infinite light. Then, He creates a state of consciousness that is somehow empty of His presence. Then He draws in that void a suggestion of infinite light, to give that consciousness form and life. This is a world. He repeats the process, creating a vacuum again, then filling it with an infinitesimal hint of light from the previous world. Another world. The process is called tzimtzum and continues through infinite stages, until the lowest possible stage arrives, i.e., you won't like this... our world!

Why is our world as inferior as possible? Because the whole concept of our world is simply to be a world. Appear entirely self-contained. As if he were "simply here" (as that Buddhist said).

Look outside. Maybe you see a tree. What does the tree say? Unless you're one of those psychics who spend the afternoon talking to trees, it says only one thing: "Here I am. Here I was. I'm simply here." Sure, human beings who use their minds will read beauty and meaning in that tree. But that has to do with the inherent spiritual nature of the human being. The tree, by itself, like everything else in the earthly world, has only one thing to say: "I am here." In fact, this is what even we human beings call "reality." If we think about it, human life is an even better example of what I'm talking about. More than the tree. Or even a rock. Because human beings are the ultimate in "just being."

Look out the window and see all those busy human beings. See how everyone goes about their business with the same air of self-centeredness. It's not something to be embarrassed about – it's just the way it is. We can feel each other's emotions, we can feel each other's intellect, but when it comes to the ego, for each of us, there is only one ego in the entire cosmos, and that is ours. Six billion "you", "them" and "them". And only one "I."

The Renaissance philosopher Rabbi Judah Loewe (the Maharal of Prague) emphasizes this (in his commentary on Ethics of the Fathers 3:2): Every human being – the first man, the child, the guy lying in the gutter, the most powerful dictator of History – they all share this insight: "The universe revolves around me." Yes, we can see a little beyond this or at least hide it under the veneer of social etiquette. But just as surely as there are bones in our body, that ego will always be at the heart of what we do. It is the defining factor of our world.

If our window opened to a higher world, things wouldn't look like this. In a higher world, what you see as a tree would be an angel. "Angel" – malach in Hebrew – means messenger. A messenger saying, "I am a creation. I am telling you something about how I was created and what gives me life." There, the creations are more like light reflecting its source, or information communicating from a higher transmitter.

But in our world, no part of this message is successful. With all the encoding, compression, filtering and distortion along the way, it ends up in something garbled and garbled. Which results in egos. Including egos that completely deny having a Creator. Some even believe that they themselves are G-d, having created everything in themselves. (You've probably already encountered some of these – most commonly seen on city streets between 5 and 6 o'clock in the afternoon).

Therefore, as Rashab comments, Rabbi Chaim Vital's reason is a good reason for a world much higher than ours. As in the first emanation of a world. But then, why continue the chain of concealment and distortion to get to ours? To be good and pleasant, did He really have to create a place that became such a dark and horrible mess? Does he need to create a reality that he claims is all there is? Does he need to create egos? Create some basic emanations, be good to them and stop there!

The real problem

All of this, without mentioning the most fundamental of arguments: Who decided that being good to others is a good thing? Who created "goodness" and its definitions? He! Along with all the rules of logic and rationality. So we're back to where we started: is there a reasonable reason for logic and rationality and goodness and containers of Infinite Light or anything else to exist?

Maimonides, in his Guide for the Perplexed, answers a firm no. For all the reasons stated above and even more. There is no reason. Full stop. He doesn't need our world. He doesn't need us. But there is purpose. Absolute purpose.

Now, let's get to the really short answer:
As we said, G-d has no need or "reason" to create a world. He just did it. But when He did it, it was with a purpose. He decided to wish he had two opposites at once:
An earthly, real world…
…discovering your Creator in all your aspects.

In the language of ancient Midrash:
"He desired a world for Himself in the lowest of worlds"

Now the explanation:
"The lowest of worlds." As we explained above, it is our world. In terms of "signal clarity" – clear information about your source – you can't go lower than that and still have something exist. That’s what makes it feel so real – the lack of apparent connection to its source. And that is what makes it so important, to the point that within it lies the purpose of all things. If this seems counterintuitive, that's because it is. Get used to it. From here on, all our conclusions will be based on this counterintuitive principle. It's okay that it's counterintuitive because, as you remember, it's not reasonable. G-d does not need a home. He's perfectly fine doing nothing. He just wanted to wish it. And He can decide to want whatever He decides to want. This does not mean – and it is important to point out – that He does not really want this. On the contrary, have you ever had to deal with an irrational desire? Reason has its limits, but when things are decided "just because," you are no longer dealing with something you can change. You are dealing with the complete person.

Creation contains only the tiniest trace of a ray of a reflection of the Creator's light. We are all unnecessary nothings. But in His desire for His creation and this fulfillment, there He is in His fullness.

Elegance

Counterintuitive. But immaculately elegant. First of all, no other answer so well expresses what Kabbalists call "the simplicity of the infinite." The Infinite, blessed be He, is beyond reason, beyond the search for perfection. All these are nothing more than fictions of his own design. Purposefully placing purpose in the lowest of worlds is a poignant expression of this point. In fact, it is the supreme expression of the Essential infinity.

Second, it makes a lot of sense of the patterns we see throughout the cosmos. And throughout the entire scheme of the cosmos – the Torah. Everywhere is the marriage of opposites, this process of the highest meeting the lowest, the center meeting the peripheral, the One being expressed in the many. No one has addressed this topic more than the Lubavitcher Rebbe, whose approach to every problem in the Torah and in the world is to frame it in the context of its dynamics: The Essence of All Things desires a home within the most concrete reality. The fusion of opposites, too, is a magnificent expression of that Essence that is beyond all binary configurations of yes and no, of being and not being.

Thirdly, although it is beyond reason – for it is reason that reason comes into existence in the first place – it is still something we can intimately relate to. After all, we, too, desire an address. Our entire life and our irrational lust for life is all about this desire to find ourselves within a concrete reality.

What are the counterintuitive implications of this counterintuitive desire to have a home in this dump?

On the one hand, the metaphysical universe has just been turned upside down. The angels and the highest worlds revolve around the earth. They are subject to us here. As the Midrash (Song of Songs) tells us, when the heavenly host above wants to know when it is time to sing the songs of the New Light festival, they must come down here to find out what we have decided.

Mishnah says: "Know that which is above you" (da mah l'maalah mimach) and the Maggid of Mezeritch translates: "Know that everything that is above comes from you." As much as they look down on us, all those spiritual beings depend on us for their own sustenance and daily itinerary. On the other hand, forget about climbing. Entering paradise may be more rapturously refreshing than a Pepsi, but it's just a means to an end. Humanity's job is not to be spiritual cosmonauts, but cosmic miners, scanning the heavens for inspiration to continue their work here below. And what is that work below? To plow the fields of earthly life so that it may absorb the rain from above, to plant and gather the seeds of the heavenly deeds done here on earth, to build and sustain a sanctuary to the Highest of all Highs here below in the lowest of all lower. In other words, study Torah, perform mitzvot and endure all the challenges so far.

This is why, according to Nachmanides in his work Shaar Hagmul, the supreme state of the great human journey is not as souls in heaven, but as souls in bodies. At the end of days, he writes, all souls will return to their respective bodies and remain there for eternal happiness.

Concrete revelation

And another thing: building a home in a lower world does not mean that this world now becomes ethereal and angelic. There are already enough angelic and ethereal worlds. No, it must remain as concrete, mundane and absolute as it was created. The only adjustment is that this same worldliness will be perceived as Divine.

This is why the home cannot come from above – built by angels or even people who have nothing to do with the real world. No pre-made goods. If you want a house in Costa Rica, that means a house in Costa Rica built by Costa Ricans with materials from Costa Rica. Same here – and we are the natives. We, the self-centered, materialistic, earthly aboriginals.

Take for example that egocentrism with which we embarrassed everyone at the beginning of this article, that deep feeling we all have that "I am more me." This, in itself, is the greatest revelation of all, something that angels could never touch. After all, where does this idea come from? How did G‑d create such an apparition?

The answer is that the Creator can create something like this, because He Himself is exactly like that: The Supreme Ego. He is the Center of All Things. He is All That Is – for real. And so, when He breathes from Himself into a creature made of earthly clay, that creature feels exactly the same way: Ego. The supreme center of all things.

This is also the origin of that sense of being "simply here." How can a creation appear to be "just here," as if it had always been there? Just because it is the supreme creation of a Creator who is truly Simply Here. In the language of Rabbi Schneur Zalman of Liadi ("The Alter Rebbe") in one of his last writings:

"The Source of all emanations, His existence is of His own being and not the effect of any cause that preceded Him. And therefore, He alone has the ability to create something out of absolute nothing, without any precedent or cause for its existence…” (Tanya, Igueret HaKodesh 20).

Rabbi Schneur Zalman goes on to describe how the supreme expression of this is in the physical earth upon which we walk. And that's why it looks the way it does: Because it is a reflection of ultimate reality.

It turns out that this lower, egocentric world has something that no higher world can offer: The Essence. Furthermore: Not only is G-d's desire for a home directed towards this world of ours - it is the only property appropriate for such zoning. Because Essence simply cannot be expressed anywhere other than within an earthly, concrete, egocentric world. As it is written in the ancient Book of Formation: "The beginning of all things is embedded in their end."

A "dwelling in the underworld," then, does not mean the annihilation of the ego and a darker reality. It simply means that these things will be evaluated for what they really are: The supreme forms of Divine expression.

Practical Application

With all this counterintuition, a practical application is required:
Let's say someone is about to have a meal. Common wisdom would place all possible postures for this exercise between two poles:

The senseless, self-centered stance: "I'm hungry. If I'm hungry, I eat. This food is what I like. I eat what I like. Why? Because when I'm hungry I eat the food I like."

The enlightened, selfless stance. "I'm hungry, but that's not important. I don't even realize that I'm hungry, because I'm so wrapped up in higher metaphysical matters – what is food, anyway? What is hunger? What is a body? What is it me? However, as G-d has commanded me to sustain this body and this is done through food, I will accept a small portion of food to fulfill my obligation."

Which of these fulfills the Creator's purpose in creation?

The answer, of course, is "neither of them." The first stance has a hint of the real world, but no sense that anything other than the human ego lives there. The second has a Higher Consciousness living there, but no real world. Because the subject has suppressed that part of himself that makes him a citizen of this egocentric and inferior kingdom. To achieve the mandate of a "Divine Abode in this lower world," there must be a nexus of these two poles.
So try on a third size option, as I learned from the great master of Chabad thoughtmasters, Rabbi Yoel Kahn:

"I'm hungry. When I'm hungry, I eat. Why? Because that's what earthly beings like me do. And here's the food I like to eat. But wait. I have a purpose. My desire for food has a purpose. Therefore, I will recite a blessing over the food and eat it with the appropriate state of mind that I am eating to fulfill my purpose in life and do many good things.


In this posture, there is a real person, living in a real world, but doing something Divine. And so G‑d says, “Yes! This is what I was looking for!”

Counterintuitive. But doable.
But if the universe doesn't need to be here, why does it exist at all? The argument begins by asserting that existence is unnecessary, which raises a major philosophical issue: if something doesn’t need to be, why is it? What prevents absolute nonexistence from being the default? Saying God created the universe because He "desired" it doesn’t really resolve this, because it begs the question of why God would have that desire in the first place, especially if He is supposed to be perfect and complete, needing nothing.

The text brings in Maimonides to explain that God doesn’t need anything, yet it also claims God "desired" to be found within creation. But if God is perfect, how can He have desires? Desire usually implies a lack or a need—something to be fulfilled. How does this fit with the concept of a perfect, self-sufficient being? Isn’t there a contradiction here? The idea that God can have a desire without it being a sign of imperfection is counterintuitive, but this needs more clarification.

The claim that the Torah introduces the question of purpose seems like a bold assertion. Many philosophies and cultures, long before or outside the Torah’s influence, have asked questions about purpose and the meaning of existence. If the universe were "just here," why can’t we still wonder about why it is here? This line of thinking seems to suggest that asking about purpose only makes sense if we assume a creator, but is that really true? People can and do seek purpose in a universe they perceive as naturally occurring.

The text goes on to mention that science supports the idea of a purposeful universe, citing examples of fine-tuning. But if we’re using scientific findings, shouldn’t we also acknowledge the different interpretations? Fine-tuning can be seen as evidence for a creator, but it can also be explained by the anthropic principle or the multiverse theory, which suggests our universe is one of many, and we just happen to live in one where the conditions allow for life. Could this not suggest that the universe’s fine-tuning doesn’t require a divine hand, but rather a selection effect?

The examples of precise cosmic conditions, like the balance between gravity and electromagnetism, are intriguing, but they also lead to more questions. If God designed everything so carefully, why would He need to "tune" the universe at all? Couldn’t a perfect creator simply design a universe where life could thrive without requiring such delicate balances, as if tinkering with a machine? Does this precision actually argue against divine simplicity and more for a kind of cosmic engineering that’s difficult to reconcile with the idea of an all-powerful, effortless creator?

Then there’s the issue of potentiality and actuality. The text says without creation, God’s perfections would remain in a state of potential, which creation brings into reality. But this seems to imply a kind of imperfection, doesn't it? If God needs to manifest these perfections, doesn’t that suggest they were lacking before? The counter-argument is that God’s potential and actuality are the same, but this feels like a play on words. How can potential be identical to actuality without creating a contradiction?

The idea of God being a "Supreme Ego" and creating beings that reflect this ego seems a bit unsettling. If we’re created to mirror God’s ego, what does this say about the nature of God? If God is truly self-sufficient, why would He want or need mirrors of His ego? This description risks making God sound more like a being with human characteristics and desires rather than a transcendent, self-sufficient entity. Can we really use terms like ego, want, and desire for something that’s supposed to be fundamentally different from any other being?

The text also presents the idea that our world is uniquely egocentric and self-contained, and that this is intentional. But why is the ego-centric nature of humans seen as a reflection of divine will, rather than just a byproduct of evolutionary self-preservation? And if we are so prone to misunderstanding or missing the divine signal, why would God choose such a convoluted way of expressing Himself?

Then there’s the concept of God creating a world “just because”—a divine whim that defies rational understanding. But if God’s actions are beyond reason, why should we try to make sense of them at all? If God’s purpose is fundamentally irrational or “just because,” can we really say there’s purpose in the way we usually understand it? The argument risks becoming circular: God created the world with a purpose, but that purpose is beyond rational understanding, so we can’t really grasp it, but it’s still purposeful because God is rational.

The explanation of counterintuitive elegance is interesting but doesn’t necessarily make the argument clearer. If God’s desire for a home in this world is counterintuitive, why should we accept it as true? Simply saying it’s elegant or poetic doesn’t address the logical concerns. Just because a concept feels profound doesn’t mean it holds up to scrutiny. Isn’t there a risk here of using mystical language to bypass difficult questions?

Finally, the text’s conclusion about combining ego and higher purpose in our actions raises another set of questions. If the ideal is to live both as a material being and with a sense of divine purpose, how do we know we’re doing it right? The answer given is to balance self-interest and divine intention, but isn’t this just prescribing behavior rather than explaining the underlying problem? Why should the way we live our lives affirm the truth of these claims about God, creation, and purpose? Does it resolve the initial paradoxes, or does it just offer a way to live with them?

It feels like there are more gaps than answers here. The narrative tries to reconcile God’s perfection with creation, but it leans heavily on poetic descriptions and complex theological claims that might actually obscure the fundamental issue: if God is perfect and self-sufficient, why would He need or desire to create anything at all? Could it be that the story, rather than providing a solution, simply reflects human attempts to understand something that might not have an answer within the framework we’re using?
 
But if the universe doesn't need to be here, why does it exist at all? The argument begins by asserting that existence is unnecessary, which raises a major philosophical issue: if something doesn’t need to be, why is it? What prevents absolute nonexistence from being the default? Saying God created the universe because He "desired" it doesn’t really resolve this, because it begs the question of why God would have that desire in the first place, especially if He is supposed to be perfect and complete, needing nothing.
All these questions are present in the text itself, and the answer is also evident, if you read it correctly.

God is the greatest ontological Being, He knows everything by knowing Himself. G-d's desire is to be found in his own creation, I emphasized this in the first line. But, well, we exist because of a necessary Being, the Creator.

I really explained everything previously, but I'm going to leave a better book for you to look for, you'll understand the subject better.

It's called: Guide for the Perplexed - Moshê Maimônides, I recommend this book, it's great.


We follow the essence of the ego and the one flow of all fundamental things.
 
God is the greatest ontological Being, He knows everything by knowing Himself. G-d's desire is to be found in his own creation, I emphasized this in the first line. But, well, we exist because of a necessary Being, the Creator.
You mention that God’s desire is to be found in His own creation, but this seems to contradict the idea of a perfect, self-sufficient Being. Desires imply a lack or a want, so how does this fit with the notion of perfection?

You didn't address manu of my points. From all the points I made, at least explain one of the most important ones: the problem of evil.

You don't need God as the greatest ontological Being. Simply get rid of God and say "Universe", "Reality". We can say "we exist because of the brute fact that reality exists like it does."
 
See this is why you got banned fakecel. No one likes a gaytheist retard.
 

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