Discussion Do normies who have sex in high school and college pay to have sex?

[Personalityinkwell]

A common claim by anti escortcels is that they don't want to pay for something chad gets for free, and the response is "chad is an exception"

But is he? do normies in high school and college "pay" to have sex? i don't think they do. A 5/10 normie inviting a 3-4/10 chick over to his house to study and then hook up isn't "paying" at all. a 6/10 dude hooking up with beckies at high school house parties or college frat parties isn't "paying" either. Both are normies, not chads, and they get sex for free.

Paying for sex = subhuman trait

@Ropemaxx @nihility @Colvin76 @ionlycopenow @OverBeforeItBegan

 

[joe_incel123]

A common claim by anti escortcels is that they don't want to pay for something chad gets for free, and the response is "chad is an exception"

But is he? do normies in high school and college "pay" to have sex? i don't think they do. A 5/10 normie inviting a 3-4/10 chick over to his house to study and then hook up isn't "paying" at all. a 6/10 dude hooking up with beckies at high school house parties or college frat parties isn't "paying" either. Both are normies, not chads, and they get sex for free.

Paying for sex = subhuman trait

@Ropemaxx @nihility @Colvin76 @ionlycopenow @OverBeforeItBegan

Depends. If you just fuck her and then leave, it's free. If you become her cuck giving her presents, inviting her to to eat, cuck paying alimony after divorce etc. then it's not free.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

A common claim by anti escortcels is that they don't want to pay for something chad gets for free, and the response is "chad is an exception"

Well getting sex for "free" is a bit of a misconception. The value which chad trades is his looks, it isn't really free.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Well getting sex for "free" is a bit of a misconception. The value which chad trades is his looks, it isn't really free.

what about the normies i mentioned?

and do girls pay for sex with their vaginas?

 

[Deleted member 27768]

As a normie you have to put in Lots of effort for self improvement and some game and have successful dates and be interesting funny and kind to the Becky for months with serious relationship promises and shit just to fuck her

 

[FrothySolutions]

Lots of normies go to brothels. In fact I'm pretty sure wealthy and successful people go to brothels.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

As a normie you have to put in Lots of effort for self improvement and some game and have successful dates and be interesting funny and kind to the Becky for months with serious relationship promises and shit just to fuck her

gigacope if you think normies in high school have to go through the same shit as 25 year old normies

 

[Deleted member 8353]

what about the normies i mentioned?

and do girls pay for sex with their vaginas?

In a manner of speaking, but females have intrinsic value. They're not the ones paying to have sex, it's the other way around.

 

[joe_incel123]

what about the normies i mentioned?

and do girls pay for sex with their vaginas?

Alcohol is the solution for low tier normies to get sex.
Shit is, that feminism labels sex with drunk girls as rape when they regret it afterwards more and more.

It's over for low tier normies.

 

[Deleted member 21219]

Well getting sex for "free" is a bit of a misconception. The value which chad trades is his looks, it isn't really free.

Exactly. Chad pays with his time, which is his opportunity cost.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Lots of normies go to brothels. In fact I'm pretty sure wealthy and successful people go to brothels.

16 year old normies go to brothels?

 

[Deleted member 27768]

gigacope if you think normies in high school have to go through the same shit as 25 year old normies

it haven't been long since i quit HS and my friends always tells me how it goes (brutal) and i can assure you it's basically the same.

 

[DirtyCurryCell]

A common claim by anti escortcels is that they don't want to pay for something chad gets for free, and the response is "chad is an exception"

But is he? do normies in high school and college "pay" to have sex? i don't think they do. A 5/10 normie inviting a 3-4/10 chick over to his house to study and then hook up isn't "paying" at all. a 6/10 dude hooking up with beckies at high school house parties or college frat parties isn't "paying" either. Both are normies, not chads, and they get sex for free.

Paying for sex = subhuman trait

@Ropemaxx @nihility @Colvin76 @ionlycopenow @OverBeforeItBegan

Well I think escorting in in general a rich people trait.

I knew 3 chads who were older than me. One's father was in the military. The other's was a politican. And I think the other's was a businessman. Aside from the one who's dad was a politician, the other two looked good. And that fucker was just fat because he used to be a jock, and then stopped. Anyway, they bragged about bringing hookers to their parties. And about having consensual sex.

 

[Deleted member 21219]

A common claim by anti escortcels is that they don't want to pay for something chad gets for free, and the response is "chad is an exception"

But is he? do normies in high school and college "pay" to have sex? i don't think they do. A 5/10 normie inviting a 3-4/10 chick over to his house to study and then hook up isn't "paying" at all. a 6/10 dude hooking up with beckies at high school house parties or college frat parties isn't "paying" either. Both are normies, not chads, and they get sex for free.

Paying for sex = subhuman trait

@Ropemaxx @nihility @Colvin76 @ionlycopenow @OverBeforeItBegan

Iam not sure what the point youre making here is. Are you saying anti escortcels are right?

 

[FrothySolutions]

16 year old normies go to brothels?

Oh no, no, they do that when they're adults.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Iam not sure what the point youre making here is. Are you saying anti escortcels are right?

i'm not saying they are "right" in that no one should see an escort.

but for them to be mad about having to hand over money AND time, while normies and chads in school only spend time, they have a right to be pissed off

 

[WarriorSkull]

Women will over time work to extract payment out of any man that spends regular time with her. You’re definitely paying for anything resembling a gf. Also I would argue college tuition is already paying for it because the campus full of women is a major selling point

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Well I think escorting in in general a rich people trait.

Depends upon where you live and how often you do it. In the USA it's pretty unaffordable, illegal, and generally seems to be more trouble than it's worth.

 

[Deleted member 21219]

i'm not saying they are "right" in that no one should see an escort.

but for them to be mad about having to hand over money AND time, while normies and chads in school only spend time, they have a right to be pissed off

We're all pissed off. If i had a choice, id rather get something for free. But only an idiot would sit in the corner and cry over having to pay when hes realized theres no chance to get sex any other way.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Women will over time work to extract payment out of any man that spends regular time with her. You’re definitely paying for anything resembling a gf. Also I would argue college tuition is already paying for it because the campus full of women is a major selling point

college tuition paying for sex is complete horseshit. plenty of incels get nothing in college

plus parents pay for your college a good amount of the time.

and if you want to say "indirect payment" by parents, then the argument could be used that parents providing you food and shelter is also indirect payment, which is stupid as shit.

Lastly, what about high school? that's free assuming it's public not private (most kids go to public high school)

 

[PPEcel]

No, they don't. Not that most high schoolers would have the cash to actually visit a whore regularly.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

We're all pissed off. If i had a choice, id rather get something for free. But only an idiot would sit in the corner and cry over having to pay when hes realized theres no chance to get sex any other way.

so you do admit that chad gets it for free, and even sometimes normies when they get a hookup?

No, they don't. Not that most high schoolers would have the cash to actually visit a whore regularly.

bingo

 

[Deleted member 21219]

No, they don't. Not that most high schoolers would have the cash to actually visit a whore regularly.

High school is prolly the only time when normies can get sex without paying.

so you do admit that chad gets it for free, and even sometimes normies when they get a hookup?

Normies dont hookup after high school for the most part. They have to invest time, effort and money in order to get sex. They also have the opportunity to access foids via social circles which gives them a chance to ascend outside of dating apps.

Chad getting sex for free is a vague statement. Chad pays with his time and ultimately his top tier genetics.

 

[nihility]

They don't pay a penny jfl the only men who pay are "nice guys" who take her on a date,buy her things etc. in college they hook up and fuck for free (

Spoiler: dickpill

then she tells her friends that you have a big dick and they hook up with you too

)

 

[PPEcel]

High school is prolly the only time when normies can get sex without paying.

Well, after high school, this is what happens to normies:

So yes and no. It depends on what you mean by "paying"

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Chad getting sex for free is a vague statement. Chad pays with his time and ultimately his top tier genetics.

see this is retarded, you don't pay with your genetics. your genetics do not drop quantitatively after having sex, they are concrete and unchangable. chad's genetics make him look good, and that allows him to be attractive, and have women lust over him. there is no "payment" involved.

jfl @ comparing that to handing a hooker 200 dollars, seriously just fucking lol

Well, after high school, this is what happens to normies:
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after college*

 

[PPEcel]

jfl @ comparing that to handing a hooker 200 dollars, seriously just fucking lol

can i touch your sisters' lips for $200?

 

[Personalityinkwell]

can i touch your sisters' lips for $200?

 

[Deleted member 8353]

see this is retarded, you don't pay with your genetics. your genetics do not drop quantitatively after having sex, they are concrete and unchangable. chad's genetics make him look good, and that allows him to be attractive, and have women lust over him. there is no "payment" involved.

jfl @ comparing that to handing a hooker 200 dollars, seriously just fucking lol

It's more like chad has prepaid with his genetics ngl.

 

[PPEcel]

coomfuel

It's more like chad has prepaid with his genetics ngl.

life must be great when you're not subhuman

 

[Personalityinkwell]

It's more like chad has prepaid with his genetics ngl.

did a 16 year old normie also prepay with his genetics?

 

[Deleted member 8353]

did a 16 year old normie also prepay with his genetics?

Depends upon how you look at it. Maybe the cost isn't so high at that age, or girls just don't have as much access to chad. You could also say that highschool for normies is the only time that sex is free. But tbh I really don't think that this is true, if it were truly free then all of us would've had sex.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Depends upon how you look at it. Maybe the cost isn't so high at that age, or girls just don't have as much access to chad. You could also say that highschool for normies is the only time that sex is free. But tbh I really don't think that this is true, if it were truly free then all of us would've had sex.

no it was free for them because they weren't ugly for us

 

[Deleted member 21219]

Well, after high school, this is what happens to normies:
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So yes and no. It depends on what you mean by "paying"

Average normie life after school is pretty fucked up.

 

[grondilu]

Lots of normies go to brothels.

This is my impression too. This is only anecdotal, but last year in a German brothel I talked with two other clients and by curiosity I asked them if they were married, and indeed they were. They told me that they see whores because their wives had no interest in having sex whatsoever, especially after the children were born or something.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

no it was free for them because they weren't ugly for us

Yes, free for them. Hence why I said that attractive people have prepaid for sex with their genetics.

Honestly the more you look at it, the more you realize that all sex and romantic relationships are entirely transactional. None of it is about who you are, it's what you have. Friendships can be far more genuine than this, in fact I'd say that they usually are. Even if it's somehow still an exchange of value, usually it's related to what people have in common with each other, it's at least more of a shared experience rather than something to be traded.

 

[Deleted member 21219]

see this is retarded, you don't pay with your genetics. your genetics do not drop quantitatively after having sex, they are concrete and unchangable. chad's genetics make him look good, and that allows him to be attractive, and have women lust over him. there is no "payment" involved.

Chad pays with his time. If i was an expert in a field of service, my time would obviously be more valuable compared to someone whos an amateur. Although there is no explicit payment here, chad pays with the time he could have spent fucking any other foid.

 

[PPEcel]

This is my impression too. This is only anecdotal, but last year in a German brothel I talked with two other clients and by curiosity I asked them if they were married, and indeed they were. They told me that they see whores because their wives had no interest in having sex whatsoever, especially after the children were born or something.

low inhib for actually talking to another client

i don't like brothels for this reason, im too high inhib to even entertain the thought of seeing another customer

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Yes, free for them. Hence why I said that attractive people have prepaid for sex with their genetics.

Honestly the more you look at it, the more you realize that all sex and romantic relationships are entirely transactional. None of it is about who you are, it's what you have. Friendships can be far more genuine than this, in fact I'd say that they usually are. Even if it's somehow still an exchange of value, usually it's related to what people have in common with each other, it's at least more of a shared experience rather than something to be traded.

i'd argue friendships are the exact same, they are "transactional" in the same way sex not involving an exchange of money is "transactional".

Chad pays with his time. If i was an expert in a field of service, my time would obviously be more valuable compared to someone whos an amateur. Although there is no explicit payment here, chad pays with the time he could have spent fucking any other foid.

let's say i want to go to an amusement park, and it usually costs 60 dollars, but i get in without paying

i guess i didn't actually go for "free" because i had to "spend" my time?

you see how stupid this sounds?

 

[grondilu]

low inhib for actually talking to another client

Not really. They were French like me. I've heard them speaking French so I couldn't help but saying hi and stuff.

Approaching a compatriot in a foreign country is the most natural thing ever, since you have an obvious thing in common to talk about.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

i'd argue friendships are the exact same, they are "transactional" in the same way sex not involving an exchange of money is "transactional".

Maybe. I think it depends upon the type of interaction, and it's very possible that I have a different idea of what friends are than most normies do. So I think that we're both right, but only talking about different things.

 

[Deleted member 21219]

let's say i want to go to an amusement park, and it usually costs 60 dollars, but i get in without paying

i guess i didn't actually go for "free" because i had to "spend" my time?

you see how stupid this sounds?

Not at all. Like i said, when genetic value is the name of the game, Chad pays with his time. You are confusing payment with effort. Chad doesnt put in effort, doesnt mean he doesnt pay. He pays by choosing to spend his time, energy and sperm on this one girl, when he has over 300 matches on tinder, all dtf the same night.

 

[grondilu]

im too high inhib to even entertain the thought of seeing another customer

I don't understand this at all. Other clients will ignore you if you do. There's really nothing to be embarrassed about, since you're all here for the same reason.

 

[WarriorSkull]

If spending money can be correlated with increased access to sex, how can it be argued as not paying for it? Ins't everything about sex in the end?

Am I not paying for it if I spend thousands of dollars on designer clothes or a sports car and it gets my incel ass laid once "for free"?

college tuition paying for sex is complete horseshit. plenty of incels get nothing in college

Paying for local, immediate access to a dating pool. Prior to tinder college was practically guaranteed pussy at some point even for 3-4 guys.

plus parents pay for your college a good amount of the time.


and if you want to say "indirect payment" by parents, then the argument could be used that parents providing you food and shelter is also indirect payment, which is stupid as shit.

Pretty sure student loan debt is a major issue facing this country. Seems a lot less parents are paying for the college than you expect. Not to mention the degrees are mostly worthless now - for what reason do most people go to college besides to party (i.e. get laid)?

Why are they choosing to go into massive debt to attend a school like ASU (known for parties and hot women) instead of just going to their local community college?

Lastly, what about high school? that's free assuming it's public not private (most kids go to public high school)

I'm assuming exempting Chad's from this debate, because Chad is the only one who I beleive to be capable of getting sex for free. Normies have to socialcirclemaxx to get dates and that means the acquisition of resources like alcohol, drugs, food, fashionable clothing, transportion (their own or uber). Relatively few normie guys are spoiled by their parents for all of it and even when they are, would they be spending their money on these things if they didn't deem it as important to getting laid? Plus god forbid if you as a normie want sex regularly. Then you will absolutely have to maintain a gf.

Why not just buy video games, cheap clothes from walmart and always eat in while enjoying all the free sex you get by virtue of your looks? Some guys do, but they certainly aren't the majority.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Not at all. Like i said, when genetic value is the name of the game, Chad pays with his time. You are confusing payment with effort. Chad doesnt put in effort, doesnt mean he doesnt pay. He pays by choosing to spend his time, energy and sperm on this one girl, when he has over 300 matches on tinder, all dtf the same night.

if i get netflix for free, am i "paying" by watching yu gi oh instead of pokemon?

 

[PPEcel]

I don't understand this at all. Other clients will ignore you if you do. There's really nothing to be embarrassed about, since you're all here for the same reason.

i would just rather not be seen. it doesn't make any sense, i admit

i just prefer hotels and private apartments imo for the sense of privacy/anonymity

 

[Deleted member 21219]

if i get netflix for free, am i "paying" by watching yu gi oh instead of pokemon?

Would you accept that chad's time as valued by a foid is much higher than ours?

 

[grondilu]

i would just rather not be seen. it doesn't make any sense, i admit

i just prefer hotels and private apartments imo for the sense of privacy/anonymity

Just to be clear : you know that in brothels you don't fuck the whore in front of everyone else, right ? There are rooms.

In any case, it's IMHO deplorable that men are ashamed of paying for sex. There's no chance the laws regarding prostitution ever change if men can't even publicly admit they are clients.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Would you accept that chad's time as valued by a foid is much higher than ours?

what is your point? we're talking about how chad or us spend our time, not how others value it

 

[PPEcel]

Just to be clear : you know that in brothels you don't fuck the whore in front of everyone else, right ? There are rooms.

In any case, it's IMHO deplorable that men are ashamed of paying for sex. There's no chance the laws regarding prostitution ever change if men can't even publicly admit they are clients.

Yes, I know.

I just get nervous every time I go meet a whore. I get spooked if there's even someone else in the hallway.

Most clients can't admit they're clients, that's why, they'll get divorceraped.