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Do god exists?

Adson

Adson

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Currently Iam a partial nihilist I self deceive myself that evolution is bullshit. God do exist
Where is the justice of Genetic inequality ? Even as a blackpiller I try my best to stay my people from this horrible depressing ideology I know how much blackpill affect your productivity , mental health Bla bla bla. I truly waana be a believer in god but why all relegious scripture shows tribalistic nature? Why did God makes multiple relegions fighting each other who is right or wrong? Evolution proves nessecity of relegion and god metaphysically but disprove absolute existence a actuall god

God says he will punish you for doing evil while genetic determinism proves our uncontrollable Generics directly influence our deeds

Ugly people are more prone to doing evils because of how people treat them since they were born


Iam losing my hairs thinking about this for an year
Pray for me to god making me a strong believer

Enough this atheistic nihilistic life
.
Please some one help me

With tears
 
There is no God, he was invented for people to cope
 
there is no god. be a nihilist

embrace self-destruction
 
there is an intelligent creator behind this universe
 
Currently Iam a partial nihilist I self deceive myself that evolution is bullshit. God do exist
Where is the justice of Genetic inequality ? Even as a blackpiller I try my best to stay my people from this horrible depressing ideology I know how much blackpill affect your productivity , mental health Bla bla bla. I truly waana be a believer in god but why all relegious scripture shows tribalistic nature? Why did God makes multiple relegions fighting each other who is right or wrong? Evolution proves nessecity of relegion and god metaphysically but disprove absolute existence a actuall god

God says he will punish you for doing evil while genetic determinism proves our uncontrollable Generics directly influence our deeds

Ugly people are more prone to doing evils because of how people treat them since they were born


Iam losing my hairs thinking about this for an year
Pray for me to god making me a strong believer

Enough this atheistic nihilistic life
.
Please some one help me

With tears
not sure i understood your post,but i will try to respond what i think you are saying.truth by itself creates division.there are a billions lies a man can tell but truth is only one. god doesn't create multiple religions.he only created one(catholicism),and every other does not come from him.even if you don't believe in the catholic church,there is no reason to think god would create various religions that all oppose one another in philosophy,theology and pratcise.


when it comes to evil,yes man is prone to evil and man without god will always desire to sin(without god,there is only a fight for earthly resources and we know that there it's the survival of the fittest and you have zero chance if you don't have the genetics),but god himself will give you help(graces), so that you will not sin. there is a reason why catholics always talk about how helpless we are without god,because that is the truth.without the spiritual side to life,man only has that which is earthly and man wants to have pleasures,and he will do anything to get those pleasures,since that is the only thing that pleases him.no one wants to do that which is displeasing and makes one unhappy.so he will fornicate,cheat,murder,kill,betray,steal,lie,etc etc etc all so he can enjoy his pleasures. since without god we can only submit to our broken nature,god naturally has to come helps us otherwise it's impossible to resist temptations.
 
not sure i understood your post,but i will try to respond what i think you are saying.truth by itself creates division.there are a billions lies a man can tell but truth is only one. god doesn't create multiple religions.he only created one(catholicism),and every other does not come from him.even if you don't believe in the catholic church,there is no reason to think god would create various religions that all oppose one another in philosophy,theology and pratcise.


when it comes to evil,yes man is prone to evil and man without god will always desire to sin(without god,there is only a fight for earthly resources and we know that there it's the survival of the fittest and you have zero chance if you don't have the genetics),but god himself will give you help(graces), so that you will not sin. there is a reason why catholics always talk about how helpless we are without god,because that is the truth.without the spiritual side to life,man only has that which is earthly and man wants to have pleasures,and he will do anything to get those pleasures,since that is the only thing that pleases him.no one wants to do that which is displeasing and makes one unhappy.so he will fornicate,cheat,murder,kill,betray,steal,lie,etc etc etc all so he can enjoy his pleasures. since without god we can only submit to our broken nature,god naturally has to come helps us otherwise it's impossible to resist temptations.
Iam purposefully avoid some dark truths about bible that makes you A nihilist just to not suffer what Iam suffering

You go with your belief man
I know belief in god is perfectly justified in both morally , psychologically, evolutionarily, logically

I strongly wish god existed and heals My heart

You say Catholicism is right?
Protestants say they are right
Buddhist and Hindus say some bullshit ideas of contradictory omnism while non of the relegion existed just for 4000 years ago
While humans have been living for hundreds of thousands of years with different gods , different beliefs mostly polytheistic while Bible preaches monotheism



From an evolutionary perspective religion undergoes natural selection that most suitable relegion survive and others eliminate what happened to pagans of middle east /europe /America before advent of abrahamic relegions?

I would never convert to any relegion except what I am born with because if it was wrong I can argue with god( incase I met god after death) that it's you who give birth to me in a wrong relegion making me 75%chance of going to hell by birth ( a human have more than 75% chance to continue in born relegion )
 
Iam purposefully avoid some dark truths about bible that makes you A nihilist just to not suffer what Iam suffering

You go with your belief man
I know belief in god is perfectly justified in both morally , psychologically, evolutionarily, logically

I strongly wish god existed and heals My heart

You say Catholicism is right?
Protestants say they are right
Buddhist and Hindus say some bullshit ideas of contradictory omnism while non of the relegion existed just for 4000 years ago
While humans have been living for hundreds of thousands of years with different gods , different beliefs mostly polytheistic while Bible preaches monotheism



From an evolutionary perspective religion undergoes natural selection that most suitable relegion survive and others eliminate what happened to pagans of middle east /europe /America before advent of abrahamic relegions?

I would never convert to any relegion except what I am born with because if it was wrong I can argue with god( incase I met god after death) that it's you who give birth to me in a wrong relegion making me 75%chance of going to hell by birth ( a human have more than 75% chance to continue in born relegion )
that doesn't make any sense.you can't argue with god about being born in the "wrong" religion.you follow it you think it's the truth,not because it is a gamble.if you don't think it's the truth,then you are doing a much greater wrong.also god isn't out to get you with a pitchfork,in excitement at sending you to hell.he wants to be with you not torture you.

yes it's true,every religion says they are the right one,that's why christ tells us to listen to his word.we have to hear,to think,to contemplate to then believe.you have to see the lies and see what is true before you believe.christ doesn't say believe anything.he says believe in "his" words. you can compare his words and the tradition of the catholic church and compare it to everything else. if i ask you who is better looking,white becky or white stacy,you can tell me who is better.same thing applies here.

check my signature,and see if any of the books interest you.i would recommend you the case for the resurrection of jesus and answering new atheism.

also i was an atheist before i became a christrian,so i probably have heard your dark truths on the holy bible.
 
I think so, but obviously the god doesn’t love or care about life on earth given the state of things
 
God in the sense of a physical entity in a metaphysical space literally can't exist, but that was never what was intended by the story of God or any other religion, at least not in the sense that religion was in competition with "science". So much of Christianity is really just a mashing together of Jewish moral stories in the OT / Talmud and Neoplatonist philosophy. There's an theory going around, and I don't believe it uncritically, that what we know as the New Testament and much of what is considered "Christian" was Roman agitprop to make up a religion, headed by a group around the Flavian Emperors including Josephus and Greek intellectuals. I don't buy it because if the idea was to try and convert Jews to a made up religion, it clearly failed and the Romans would fight more rebellions in Judea/Palestine anyway, and the majority of converts to Christianity were Gentiles who had a particular Greco-Roman take on the religion. A lot of Christianity was picked up because it was a repudiation of everything the Roman Empire stood for, and it also resembled philosophical ideas that had by that time seeped into the mainstream. So, a lot of things Christians are talking about and believe passionate are a kind of philosophy, which is retold through stories and the figures of the NT. It's why you have a lot of things that are considered highly Christian like the Trinity that aren't actually in the Bible, because a lot of the thinking on God was to figure out a religion that would make familiar philosophical conceits seem true to a new generation. In a way, the Christian God is a repudiation of gods and magic and divination altogether, but philosophically the concept of no god wasn't something that made sense to most people. To reject the idea of God(s) was to have, essentially, no "theory of mind" or ability to understand the world, since they lacked a theory of information or biology or the brain to say that thought was just electrical signals or a pattern in the body, and even such an explanation today doesn't answer philosophical questions about what cognition, sentience, a "soul", and so on actually are. Materialism has a giant problem in explaining subjectivity, without resorting to quasi-religious arguments about the human experience that suggest that human thought and nature are inherently connected. That was the conclusion of a great many philosophers from the 19th century onward, that thought was somehow intrinsic to everything and that would get around the whole God problem. What's actually being argued in the existence of "God" is a theory of mind and an understanding of the self. It's why Genesis as a story of creation is transparently a fable, but the important takeaway from Genesis isn't that God literally created the world in 7 solar days, but that Eve ate the fruit of knowledge and humanity became sinful.

It's a sign of how people have been infantilized that people cannot engage with the concept religion was pointing to without having to believe like children who are incredulous and believe anything put in front of them. Usually, when people got older, their faith in God would change to a more philosophical view, even if it was a crude one. Part of it arises from a scientific view which tried to rationalize god, while forgetting that science as a process can't exist without a philosophical root. It's basically trying to disprove the existence of God with God. The only way you could really conceive of a world without God is to have faith that God doesn't exist, or that "God" as a concept does not comport with how you want to view the universe, which means you would necessarily develop a different theory of mind and thought. You couldn't prove through science that God doesn't exist. You might be able to make a rational argument about God's existence, or His nature, but you're not going to run an experiment in the way you would with a scientific theory. In the religious view, every law you derive from science would just be God's work, and God for whatever reason decided the universe would behave in a way that we could understand with scientific theories, and it would move with remarkable regularity. Indeed, the Christian view specifically is that God doesn't do magic arbitrarily in His creation, and the miraculous is understood as something that was highly improbable and perhaps inexplicable except as evidence of God's plan. Substitute "God" with a scheming philosopher-king and you start to see what a lot of Christianity was actually pointing to, and why it was so important to hold the faith. There's layers and levels when you start digging into the history of these things, and as more people started to think about this whole thing, and as people could actually read the Bible and see it had a lot of strange things in it, the people reading it saw in the Bible things that would be its undoing.

Anyway, "God" doesn't exist in the way most people engaging with the concept believe it exists today, because the concept advanced today in the mainstream is designed to be nonsensical and a kind of mind-virus to ensure that people can't understand the religion, or any other religious concept of God. But God doesn't exist in this philosophical way either, because it's quite transparently a way of masking philosophical ideas that don't have great credibility or explanatory power, and never really did. People turned to the Christian religion because it offered answers to spiritual authority, temporal authority, and gave some moral orientation to people that suggested there was something other than an endless parade of violence and rape, which is basically what classical Empires were and continued to be in practice. The idea in Christianity is that the world was evil, but the afterlife didn't have to be and it was okay to say that all of this madness in the world was wrong, and therefore in some small way your life could be better. In the main, though, Christianity rose in a time of great death and decline, and there's a sense in Christianity that this is actually a good thing because the world was sinful. (The whole thing about Election, unconditional election, and so on, is one of those hints that it wasn't about making the world better and that your efforts were futile, but it would be turned into this idea that a chosen minority could act like the ragingest jackasses because God gave them special permission and they were going to get the pass into heaven, and that it was destiny that they were going to be without sin, but that everyone else were maggots and you might as well throw stones at them, kill them, or do whatever you like to them.) But it's all a rather absurd story if you can stop and think about it, and to someone raised outside of the religion, it's really hard to take it seriously. I could never say with any seriousness that any God exists, let alone that a particular guy in Judea who probably didn't exist was God's incarnation on Earth. If that guy actually did exist, he was a Jew preaching to other Jews and all of his teachings had no application to the Gentiles at all. Maybe in some sense he would have tolerated the Gentiles' existence to the extent other Jews at the time did, which was not very much, but the idea that you could just join up by saying God is great would have been alien, and the teachings of Christianity really illustrate that to be an actual Christian meant being in a really selective group of true believers. Even if I tried really hard, I could never bring myself to believe in any of it as something more than a fable, a very long fable and an important one to understand why the world is what it is, but just a fable at the end of the day.

Really, though, the idea of God in this older sense is almost impossible to conceive as something people lived and did in the past, and realistically few people were ever inducted into the actual religion. If you were a priest, you just mouthed the words and knew the stories, but even the priests didn't seem to get it all that much or particularly care. If you were an ordinary person, very likely you went on believing whatever made sense to you. Realistically, ordinary people believed in folk religions and fables and were never big believers in any of the gods. They only adopted Christianity basically because they had to and it was state-enforced, and they never cared about Roman paganism which had literally less than nothing to offer them. They didn't care about the Satan-worship of Babylon or Egypt either, except again because the leaders made it state-compulsory. They didn't care about the ridicuously large Hindu pantheon and probably hated the Brahmins marching around like assholes every single day for century after century. So what we have right now is this parody of God in various forms, whether it's "God is love and sugar" or "Science is God and I'm super smart, also all social interaction is evil." To actually become an atheist is not easy without going through the first step of recognizing that the gods of mankind are all, in one way or another, a devil worship that has considerable effect on human civilization.
 
I don't believe so
 
God is the name we give to the cancer of reality.
 
No stop coping with religion, cuck.
 
No [UWSL]there is no god, never has been and there will be no god in the future either[/UWSL]
 
No, but maybe reincarnation is.
 

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