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Experiment Did you ever adress the subject of your ugliness/inceldom during therapy?

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If so, how did that go?

I've always felt a strange shame about telling a shrink "I am depressed because I am ugly", as if telling it would suddenly bring his attention to my physical flaws. So I tended to use cryptic language and beat around the bush until she/he understood.

So far, the reactions I have received:

- Looks don't matter, bro!
- A sick joke ("well, just become tall and handsome then")
- Looks matter, but you can attract women with PUA or success (redpill shrink)
- Looks matter, but less than being a hardworking and honest man (hello, the 1920s called, they want you back)
 
I can't admit it to my therapist that I'm incel. It's so shameful. :feelsbadman:
 
I can't admit it to my therapist that I'm incel. It's so shameful. :feelsbadman:
Yeah, admitting you're incel/ugly, or that you were bullied, is actually the most shameful thing you can tell a therapist as a man. In comparison, child molestation is a lighter subject
 
They'll just lie to you, try to pretend you're not ugly. Or you'll just get bluepills shoved down your throat, "most women care about personality and attitude".

lmao
 
Never received a different answer that "looks dont matter" tbh
 
Oh yeah, I talk about it all the time.

He wants to role-play approaching girls in public. I am looking forward to crashing and burning, then reporting it back to him.

He also tells me I should lie to women which is refreshingly honest, ironically.

He recommends I keep working on my looks, to max out as much as possible, but concedes I'll probably have to settle for ugly, desperate girls and woo them with money.

He's in his mid-seventies so he doesn't really know how competitive the sexual market is right now. When I tell him I can't get any replies on OKcupid and Tinder, he seems a little surprised. He doesn't realize that a 3/10 like me can't attract another 3/10, or in fact anyone
 
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Oh yeah, I talk about it all the time.

He wants to role-play approaching girls in public. I am looking forward to crashing and burning, then reporting it back to him.

He also tells me I should lie to women which is refreshingly honest, paradoxically.

He recommends I keep working on my looks, to max out as much as possible, but concedes I'll probably have to settle for ugly, desperate girls and woo them with money.

He's in his mid-seventies so he doesn't really know how competitive the sexual market is right now. When I tell him I can't get any replies on OKcupid and Tinder, he seems a little surprised. He doesn't realize that a 3/10 like me can't attract another 3/10, or in fact anyone
:lul:

Old shrinks are often completely ignorant of the current sexual market.
 
Therapy is a joke.

Incels are depressed because of real-life, factual reality. There’s no solution for us.
 
If so, how did that go?

I've always felt a strange shame about telling a shrink "I am depressed because I am ugly", as if telling it would suddenly bring his attention to my physical flaws. So I tended to use cryptic language and beat around the bush until she/he understood.

So far, the reactions I have received:

- Looks don't matter, bro!
- A sick joke ("well, just become tall and handsome then")
- Looks matter, but you can attract women with PUA or success (redpill shrink)
- Looks matter, but less than being a hardworking and honest man (hello, the 1920s called, they want you back)
I honestly feel no shame talking to a therapist because I know they will have seen worse cases before. In order to get the most out of them you must be as honest about your problems as possible.
 
Yeah, admitting you're incel/ugly, or that you were bullied, is actually the most shameful thing you can tell a therapist as a man. In comparison, child molestation is a lighter subject
Bears repeating. I would sooner admit to being sexually attracted to donkeys than admit to being bullied and being incel. The latter just carries too much stigma.
 
all therapists deny objectivity to avoid the state of despair (which is the blackpill)
 
Therapy is a joke.

Incels are depressed because of real-life, factual reality. There’s no solution for us.
This. People that claim to be "blackpilled" and attend therapy are absolutely retarded.

deny objectivity
This goes well beyond the blackpill and into determinism and the objective lack of "free will" territory, which is pure despair abyss.
 
Never even tried therapy tbh. IDK how to talk to my parents about it.
 
I did and the response was something like "well, very good-looking people do have advantages, yeah, but we normal people also have a chance if we put effort".

It was a cunningly formulated bluepill tbh. But I was enough blackpilled enough to see through it anyway back then. Also JFL my therapist trying to pretend we were both in the same looks/SMV range when she was a 5-6/10 early twenties foid and I am a 3/10 27 (back then) man. Also she rejected my pleas for pity sex and then I found out, a little later, that a good-looking acquainted guy had managed to bang his therapist.
 
They all told me I was fucked pretty much. One guy criticized my body language so I ripped into him then he said "well, yeah, you don't look good." It never began when even therapists admit your looks ruined your life.
 
Why are you guys going to therapy? Who gave you this idea you should go to therapy? What the fuck.
 
Yeah, admitting you're incel/ugly, or that you were bullied, is actually the most shameful thing you can tell a therapist as a man. In comparison, child molestation is a lighter subject
The latter gets you sent to jail so no. Don't weaken your argument through nonsensical hyperbole.
 
I never went to a therapist
 
Yes, I have.

It's safe to say that it has not gone well.
I honestly feel no shame talking to a therapist because I know they will have seen worse cases before. In order to get the most out of them you must be as honest about your problems as possible.
Most therapists will tell you this.

But, somebody has to be their worst case. And if you're posting here...
 
Why are you guys going to therapy? Who gave you this idea you should go to therapy? What the fuck.
If at some point you become too dysfunctional (dropping out of high school or college, not working), it is imposed on you by family or your country's welfare system.
 
I honestly feel no shame talking to a therapist because I know they will have seen worse cases before. In order to get the most out of them you must be as honest about your problems as possible.
Terrible idea if you have violent thoughts or admit attraction to jbs. Really terrible idea. Remember, shrinks are on their fellow normies side, not yours.
 
Terrible idea if you have violent thoughts or admit attraction to jbs. Really terrible idea. Remember, shrinks are on their fellow normies side, not yours.
Luckily I do not suffer from either of those afflictions.
 

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