Did anyone else just accept their place in the social hierarchy as kids and isolate/play video games?

[Stupid Clown]

There was a point during my childhood where I was extremely confident and outgoing. That period was short lived as I was bullied so much that I became incredibly withdrawn and isolated. I realized then subconsciously or otherwise that no matter how hard I tried I was going to be seen as a weakling weirdo. So what I ended up doing was spending my youth playing video games and day dreaming.

 

[pure]

same

 

[NIGGER BOJANGLES]

I isolated and played with my own hobbies because they rejected me socially

 

[Darth Koala Khan]

Daydreaming was my biggest cope as a child, made so many things more bearable

 

[manletcel1488]

I had a small circle of close friends, one of the only things that used to be somewhat good about my life at one point.

 

[Sergeant Kelly]

There was a point during my childhood where I was extremely confident and outgoing. That period was short lived as I was bullied so much that I became incredibly withdrawn and isolated. I realized then subconsciously or otherwise that no matter how hard I tried I was going to be seen as a weakling weirdo. So what I ended up doing was spending my youth playing video games and day dreaming.

1:1 same for me, I think almost nobody truly starts out their life being introverted/shy, it comes with experiences and your environments reactions to you.

 

[GrandWizard_137]

Yeah. Could never relate to normies even as a kidcel.

 

[GeckoBus]

There was a point during my childhood where I was extremely confident and outgoing. That period was short lived as I was bullied so much that I became incredibly withdrawn and isolated. I realized then subconsciously or otherwise that no matter how hard I tried I was going to be seen as a weakling weirdo. So what I ended up doing was spending my youth playing video games and day dreaming.​

I would like scream at my parents and shit to leave me alone and respect my privacy and shit. But they wouldnt. Basically constant bombardment of stress and invasion of privacy until I stopped caring about my body and external circumstances and just rotted and daydreamed all day. Cant invade my daydreams

It's a giga failo that modern psychology seletively underplays the influence of experiences men have on their life outcomes. Instead they root everything in the mind. Whether you were actually abused or not does not even matter, all that matters is what you believe. That beliefs can result from repeated experience is not a very pleasant revelation for them, as that would imply that incels and similar groups of men have legitimate negative experiences that turn them into what they are. In this view, society and especially women would be responsible for the monsters they create. Ouch.

Just an example, here we get a quote about one of the fathers of modern trauma theory, bessel van der kolk:
​

The next time you listen to an expert, either in or out of court, I'll ask you to think about this example of what a prominent psychiatrist, a professor at Harvard Medical School has said. This man has testified in many high profile cases involving accusations of sexual abuse/assault/harassment, presenting the expert opinion that all memories are valid and suggesting that a witness's testimony must be true. This is an excerpt from a transcript of an interview on "Frontline:"

VAN DER KOLK:"Every time people tell a story, it's basically a story that is looking for somebody to believe you to - be convinced. Of vital importance for a person's well-being, own well-being, is to make a narrative of their own life that makes sense to them. And for people's own well-being, the accuracy of one's own story about oneself is not critical. We all tell tales about ourselves. We all have images of ourselves that are not entirely in keeping with the reality of one's life, but we need to have a coherent version of ourselves.

INTERVIEWER:"So what do you do? How do you ever know what the patient is saying actually happened?

VAN DER KOLK:"It's like reading a novel. You read a bad novelist, after a while, you put the book down because the story doesn't cohere. The story doesn't make sense. People don't talk this way and people don't interact this way and the book is lousy. If you read a great book and the characters are true to life, that's how people really feel and interact with each other. And eventually, when you do clinical work with people, the internal coherence of the story, how it all hangs together, is not very different from what the great novelists do."

Apparently, all you need in order to be a credible witness is to have a good script, an interesting story, something that fits with the expert's theory.There is, in fact, a considerable body of research, which demonstrates that clinicians, such as this expert are as bad, or even worse, than most of us at distinguishing the truth from the lies and the fiction from the non-fiction. And most people, even the people who conduct the surveys on sexual harassment, seem either unaware or unconcerned.

They accept the naive idea that if someone believes a story to be true, it is true. Think back for a moment to the survey from which the conclusion that less than 1% of sexual harassment claims are false. Remember the quote from one of the managers about how he knew a particular story to be true? "Every story I hear is very specific and detailed, too much so to be made up." We need to recognize how difficult it is to distinguish the truth from the lies and the fiction from the non-fiction and, to realize that when we bring in psychologists to help at any stage of the process, we may well be compounding that difficulty.​

Sexual Harassment Accusations - Are We Manufacturing Victims?

And this is why I am now diagnosed anxiety, CPTSD and autism guys
Everything you tell the doctor is just a story to them, a narrative you tell to yourself. Your life is a post-modern fiction without any connection to real life. Is it any surprise these groups are drawn to eastern philosophy, which denies the existence of the self, reality and causality? Is it any surprise they believe gender is a fiction? The doctor sees himself as a sort of movie critic who writes a column on your life, the title of which is your diagnosis.

"Boy abused by parents, this evening on FOX"
"Dirty inkwell harbors resentment for opposite sex after repeated rejections - tomorrow on HBO"

His job is then to run you through this publishing process, where they make you restate what happened to you over and over, while slowly changing your interpretation of your own story by adding and removing stuff. At least thats what they tell you. Remember, in their view there is no real events, just interpretation. So when they tell you to "reframe negative cognitive patterns" or whatever, they are actually saying, "edit the story to be more positive." You have no life in their view, you are just a narrative that tells itself, and they have permission to edit you until you fit their definition of healthy.

For example when I was in treatment, the doctor would selectively deny parts of my story while affirming others. They dont care what actually happened. From their perspective its basically like making a student write a short story and then being like "read it again boy"... "again" and sometimes going like "stop, that part, line 25... cut that... replace that with eeeh hmm i love myself and solemnly swear to do no harm good good, now read it again" - thats therapy.

 

[TouhouMathcel]

Daydreaming was my biggest cope as a child, made so many things more bearable

I can relate

 

[Leon98]

More or less, I’ve always been on my own, When I tired to socialise I was treated like shit

 

[poorenglishcel]

I feel so powerless.

 

[Stupid Clown]

I would like scream at my parents and shit to leave me alone and respect my privacy and shit. But they wouldnt. Basically constant bombardment of stress and invasion of privacy until I stopped caring about my body and external circumstances and just rotted and daydreamed all day. Cant invade my daydreams

It's a giga failo that modern psychology seletively underplays the influence of experiences men have on their life outcomes. Instead they root everything in the mind. Whether you were actually abused or not does not even matter, all that matters is what you believe. That beliefs can result from repeated experience is not a very pleasant revelation for them, as that would imply that incels and similar groups of men have legitimate negative experiences that turn them into what they are. In this view, society and especially women would be responsible for the monsters they create. Ouch.

Just an example, here we get a quote about one of the fathers of modern trauma theory, bessel van der kolk:
​

Sexual Harassment Accusations - Are We Manufacturing Victims?

And this is why I am now diagnosed anxiety, CPTSD and autism guys
Everything you tell the doctor is just a story to them, a narrative you tell to yourself. Your life is a post-modern fiction without any connection to real life. Is it any surprise these groups are drawn to eastern philosophy, which denies the existence of the self, reality and causality? Is it any surprise they believe gender is a fiction? The doctor sees himself as a sort of movie critic who writes a column on your life, the title of which is your diagnosis.

"Boy abused by parents, this evening on FOX"
"Dirty inkwell harbors resentment for opposite sex after repeated rejections - tomorrow on HBO"

His job is then to run you through this publishing process, where they make you restate what happened to you over and over, while slowly changing your interpretation of your own story by adding and removing stuff. At least thats what they tell you. Remember, in their view there is no real events, just interpretation. So when they tell you to "reframe negative cognitive patterns" or whatever, they are actually saying, "edit the story to be more positive." You have no life in their view, you are just a narrative that tells itself, and they have permission to edit you until you fit their definition of healthy.

For example when I was in treatment, the doctor would selectively deny parts of my story while affirming others. They dont care what actually happened. From their perspective its basically like making a student write a short story and then being like "read it again boy"... "again" and sometimes going like "stop, that part, line 25... cut that... replace that with eeeh hmm i love myself and solemnly swear to do no harm good good, now read it again" - thats therapy.

Therapy works well on women because they're easy to manipulate. There's a reason why women tend to be more prone to joining cults and believing in bizarre religions. As long as you convince a woman she's special and more important than others you can make her believe in anything.


Women are almost always believed no matter how cheesy their lies are. Meanwhile as men we're constantly under scrutiny and accused of lying no matter how much evidence we provide.

 

[Stupid Clown]

I isolated and played with my own hobbies because they rejected me socially

Same.

Daydreaming was my biggest cope as a child, made so many things more bearable

What's brutal is that I basically flopped in school because I'd spend all my study time day dreaming about having friends, having a girlfriend, and being successful in life

1:1 same for me, I think almost nobody truly starts out their life being introverted/shy, it comes with experiences and your environments reactions to you.

Yep.

 

[Rapistcel]

There was a point during my childhood where I was extremely confident and outgoing. That period was short lived as I was bullied so much that I became incredibly withdrawn and isolated. I realized then subconsciously or otherwise that no matter how hard I tried I was going to be seen as a weakling weirdo. So what I ended up doing was spending my youth playing video games and day dreaming.

When I was 15 I gave up in social interactions

 

[UglyDumbass]

There was a point during my childhood where I was extremely confident and outgoing. That period was short lived as I was bullied so much that I became incredibly withdrawn and isolated. I realized then subconsciously or otherwise that no matter how hard I tried I was going to be seen as a weakling weirdo. So what I ended up doing was spending my youth playing video games and day dreaming.

yes and i would try to find other ugly losers like me but I always failed cuz they were in denial

 

[SickWeakCoward]

There was a point during my childhood where I was extremely confident and outgoing. That period was short lived as I was bullied so much that I became incredibly withdrawn and isolated. I realized then subconsciously or otherwise that no matter how hard I tried I was going to be seen as a weakling weirdo. So what I ended up doing was spending my youth playing video games and day dreaming.

I might have writen the same thing. Spot on!

 

[anotherwastedlife]

I was definitely more low inhib which led to a more confident life, but that all came to a change the moment i entered 2011. Was bullied and outcasted from that point onwards which led me to this shitty life

 

[Antorian]

Happened to me when I was a teenager. Transferred to new school, the foids were instantly hostile for no reason, given I was a shy boy who had trouble even talking to girls, did the female-type of bullying against me (ostracization, social sabotage, rumors, glares, disgted looks, and others).
I quickly saw that the social game/arena was fucked for me, so I gave up and focused on myself, my interests and my few friends.

Childhood was good though.