Okay, so earlier you agreed with me that the WEF isn't communist, but now you're saying they agree with Marx? Come on now, that doesn't make any sense. If they're not communist, why do they want the conditions to nonetheless occur? Explain.
Serious Debate: Political economic solutions to female hypergamy and general whoredom.
Hello, Markza, how are you doing? Still into worthless debates with random internet users? Cmon, quit it, it is useless
No revolution for your face, cabron! Not for mine, either.. majority of the populace is good and content with their lot at life, all those internet-commie-fighters are at max 1% of a total populace
You know the rest. Lets talk about something else
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Okay, so earlier you agreed with me that the WEF isn't communist, but now you're saying they agree with Marx? Come on now, that doesn't make any sense. If they're not communist, why do they want the conditions to occur? Explain.
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They don't agree with Marx, though they are probably aware of this implication of Marx's theory. They are capitalists doing what Marx predicted capitalists would do. Again, Communism for Marx is a historically predetermined occurrence necessitated by capitalist production. They're creating the necessary conditions for this as capitalists because that is what they have to do.
My favorite Russian Jewish nihilist who is more emotional than a thirteen year old girl.
Why do they have to do it though? I understand your frustration, seems like we're talking and thinking pass each other. I sincerely am doing my best in trying to understand you.
Ohhhhhhh ima so tired, so tired of all this nonsense, if you only knew.. rebels
Why are you still trying? It is useless, no rebellion will happen anytime soon
Why are you still trying? It is useless, no rebellion will happen anytime soon
Okay, well you go back to sleep and let the rest of us continue conversing.
Hehe, hello to you tooMy favorite Russian Jewish nihilist who is more emotional than a thirteen year old girl.
Gimme your shekels to me so i can buy myself a new golden statue of mice elf, would you be so kind?
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I see two paths:
1) Right-wing authoritarian state, whether fascist or communist, which seeks to directly police female behavior.
2) Hardcore libertarian/neo-luddite anti-state which collapses the technological society thereby ending the means to female sexual liberation.
1) Right-wing authoritarian state, whether fascist or communist, which seeks to directly police female behavior.
2) Hardcore libertarian/neo-luddite anti-state which collapses the technological society thereby ending the means to female sexual liberation.
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take away there rights and beat them everytime they do something wrong. that has and always will be the solutionBy now everybody knows I'm an unorthodox authoritarian nationalistic communist and Marxist, something I am unapologetic for even when it is an unpopular political point of view here in the west.
I am creating this thread where people of all political economic backgrounds can put forward their general political economic solution to female hypergamy and general whoredom whether you're a communist like me, fascist, liberal, libertarian, religious theocrat, or state capitalist. I welcome all forms of political economic debate, but fair warning, I have spent a small lifetime studying all forms of political or economic thought where I have not chosen my current mental disposition hastily at all.
Now before we get started let's hash out an inevitable thing I see coming up in this thread, "Fucking commie, communism is Jewish!" My response to this will be that virtually all writers or proponents of economic capitalism from the 1960s to our modern present have been entirely Jewish in the west. In other words, that's not an argument.
In this thread we'll start with something simple, how would your political economic outlook solve the female hypergamy and general whoredom problem of the world today? For me under my perception of state socialism I have proposed a forceful redistributive and regulatory system of females, that would be my ultranationalistic communist solution to the problem, what would yours be politically?
You actually like this fighting with guy who is raging here? Damn, every day i learn something new.. Enjoy your fighting thenOkay, well you go back to sleep and let the rest of us continue conversing.
Oh.. sorry then. Yeah, your obsession on left-wing is logical thenI'm literally the poorest individual on this entire forum.
Just.. why you need to fight with the guy here, he is berzerkering now
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Why do they have to do it though? I understand your frustration, seems like we're talking and thinking pass each other. I sincerely am doing my best in trying to understand you.
Because of this. As that line goes down, the pressure to cannibalize the living standards and property of the working class goes up. Universal competition and the introduction of labor saving devices and automation is what drives it down.
I prefer the velvet glove technique, no need for massive violence against them when fear, intimidation, and emotional terror is equally effective. For me violence is always a last resort or purely a defensive position, most certainly people will act out where public displays of execution will have to be presented at times. On those occasions violence is warranted with huge spectacles of death to keep people in line, but you don't want to do this too much, just enough to create an atmosphere of fear to keep people in line where it is in the back of their minds what happens when they go against the prevailing regime. Fear will cause them to conform very quickly.
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Agreed, if a political solution cannot be found necessarily against female hypergamy and general whoredom there is also the collapse of civilization where chaos or entropy takes care of it as well through more natural means.
Okay, but I don't see this having to do with any communist inclination of theirs, quite the opposite really.
Yeah, Marx predicted all of this, but I fail to see how this has to do with the current crop of cocksuckers that controls our entire planet currently.
The problem is that men hate each other too much. Men will happily fuck each other over to get ahead.
I believe most incels are working class and proletarian, most of us certainly aren't wealthy or upper bourgeois middle class. So with that in mind, we fuck over the upper echelons of men before they have the chance or opportunity doing so to us. Uniting the lower ranks of men will be easy because quite literally we have nothing to lose and everything to gain working together. Well, that's my vision of a future anyways.
just look at iran. everything your proposing isnt working. the only solution is violence. if a females just says one thing out of line then her tongue should be cut out. and she should have Chasity locks on her pussy that only her husband has the key toI prefer the velvet glove technique, no need for massive violence against them when fear, intimidation, and emotional terror is equally effective. For me violence is always a last resort or purely a defensive position, most certainly people will act out where public displays of execution will have to be presented at times. On those occasions violence is warranted with huge spectacles of death to keep people in line, but you don't want to do this too much, just enough to create an atmosphere of fear to keep people in line where it is in the back of their minds what happens when they go against the prevailing regime. Fear will cause them to conform very quickly.
get rid of chads and make a socialise pussy. the only reason for a male to be attractive today is to please females. but we shouldnt not please females and there opinions/feelings shouldn't come into question whatsoever
This is really interesting BECAUSE it shares our philosophy which explains that the real cause of the problem is not evolutionary but economical and cultural. At least someone here who does not believe in the black pill! Hurrah!!By now everybody knows I'm an unorthodox authoritarian nationalistic communist and Marxist, something I am unapologetic for even when it is an unpopular political point of view here in the west.
I am creating this thread where people of all political economic backgrounds can put forward their general political economic solution to female hypergamy and general whoredom whether you're a communist like me, fascist, liberal, libertarian, religious theocrat, or state capitalist. I welcome all forms of political economic debate, but fair warning, I have spent a small lifetime studying all forms of political or economic thought where I have not chosen my current mental disposition hastily at all.
Now before we get started let's hash out an inevitable thing I see coming up in this thread, "Fucking commie, communism is Jewish!" My response to this will be that virtually all writers or proponents of economic capitalism from the 1960s to our modern present have been entirely Jewish in the west. In other words, that's not an argument.
In this thread we'll start with something simple, how would your political economic outlook solve the female hypergamy and general whoredom problem of the world today? For me under my perception of state socialism I have proposed a forceful redistributive and regulatory system of females, that would be my ultranationalistic communist solution to the problem, what would yours be politically?
To give a short answer to your question: only a big pandemic, or a military conflict in which the USA falls defeated could terminate the Incel phenomena and hypergamy for good. The only solution will be armed and violent and a whole army of men will be needed. We are taking about WW III.
This global war will start happening during the next 30 or 40 years. The ones who will command this actions are not born yet. Meanwhile we can only prepare for war and prepare the field for them.
Thank you very much. And...forgive my bad English.
Our motto:
Black pill does not exist, stop blaming evolution, stop blaming your fucking DNA, the solution is cultural, economical and armed. Military solution.
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In the initial stages of any historical revolution violence is always paramount in the very beginning, but also remember this, even a violent revolution needs to give succession to a more peaceful stable period to be successful. The goal of violence should be to create an environment later where violence is no longer necessary. Never-ending violence doesn't achieve much, eventually violence must succeed to stability.
It's a good vision but I think the system is far too good at offering sweets to keep us under control. They keep most incels drugged with video game copes. They're working hard to make these games more and more addictive. They also give us better and better porn.
I think eventually the non-religious are going to die out and be replaced by the religious in most western countries, who will likely revert to more conservative / monogamous social norms. Unfortunately, we and the generation just after us may be the most unlucky incel generation, with future generations more likely to live in a monogamous world where there's one woman for one man.
Polygamous societies and societies with low birth rates have always collapsed and been replaced by monogamous (stable) societies and the cultures that support higher birth rates.
I think eventually the non-religious are going to die out and be replaced by the religious in most western countries, who will likely revert to more conservative / monogamous social norms. Unfortunately, we and the generation just after us may be the most unlucky incel generation, with future generations more likely to live in a monogamous world where there's one woman for one man.
Polygamous societies and societies with low birth rates have always collapsed and been replaced by monogamous (stable) societies and the cultures that support higher birth rates.
and stability leads to pussy men and the cycle continues. violence is necessary if u want to keep females in check. there is no way around itIn the initial stages of any historical revolution violence is always paramount in the very beginning, but also remember this, even a violent revolution needs to give succession to a more peaceful stable period to be successful. The goal of violence should be to create an environment later where violence is no longer necessary. Never-ending violence doesn't achieve much, eventually violence succeed to stability.
Obvious visual forms of violence must succeed to peaceful stability, but even in times of peace or stability quiet hidden wars are always still being waged nonstop in the backdrop.
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Okay, but I don't see this having to do with any communist inclination of theirs, quite the opposite really.
Yeah, Marx predicted all of this, but I fail to see how this has to do with the current crop of cocksuckers that controls our entire planet currently.
They're not Communists, dude. They're capitalists, but capitalism creates the preconditions for Communism.
I will try to explain again:
- Line goes down because of universal competition.
- Capitalists take property from the working class. They might justify it with pseudosocialist rhetoric, but that's the way it is.
- The working class has to eventually take property from the capitalists. The end of this process produces Communism.
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The system of control is an illusion and coming to an end that I can assure you. Very soon the dumb idiotic masses will no longer be able to afford their bread and circuses, all of that will be irrelevant soon enough. No, our generation will have its time to shine under the sun and know what joy is finally like, it's just that revolution or the end of civilization as we know it we'll have to endure surviving to get there.
Praying you're right brother.
A major recession as they are state and corporate subsidized and the collapse of the usa dollar as a global reserve currency. Doubt theyll remain in the workforce in large numbers by the end of this recession.
We'll know in 24 months or less, as do I my friend, as do I.
The word recession is elaborate cover just as the word pandemic was elaborate cover for the vaccines they rolled out. There is no recession coming, by the time what's coming hits we'll only wish it was an economic depression because societal collapse is what it really will be all about.
Chads will always exist, those moron meatheads are useful in society like an oxen pulling a wagon, we'll need to keep them around for their practical usage. No, all we need to do is remove female rights, privileges, and monopoly on law eliminating any opposition that opposes us in our goals. After that our problem will be solved.
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foids will go and fuck the chads. the temptation will always be there. what use would chads have?Chads will always exist, those moron meatheads are useful in society, we'll need to keep them around for their usage. No, all we need to do is remove female rights, privileges, and monopoly on law eliminating any opposition that opposes us. After that our problem will be solved.
We outnumber the Chads 10-3. It is our superior larger numbers that will keep them in check and as for foids punitive measures will be taken to keep them in line on a very tight leash.
Very nice, you know I like how we leftwing and rightwing authoritarians can come together agreeing on this very issue. You see women as private property, we leftwing authoritarians view women as sexual capital to be seized by the state later to be redistributed amongst men, we disagree in our differing terminologies but agree on principle largely. We're united against feminist whores worldwide.Establish a libertarian society with a free market. Just the positions of this guy here:
But with a few differences.
Political positions of Ron Paul - Wikipedia
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One of these would be to take away women's right to vote, forbid them to hold positions of authority and to forbid them to own guns (men should be allowed though obviously). Women should be classified as property, initially of their fathers and later of their husbands. Their fathers/husbands should decide if they are allowed to school or should get homeschooled, and women should not be able to work anywere without the explicit permission of their husband.
Another difference is that I believe that girls should get married off young. They should get married at around 12 years of age. That also helps against hypergamy
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So if women are to be removed from their place of power in society we need to first figure out what made them come there in the first place. Every problem has an inverse cause. For example, america joined world war 2 so that people could make money from the great depression, with hitler being more of an afterthought. He was what they used to explain it, but an absolute afterthought.
So, what led to women having power? Simple. Feminism. It's rise led to that. The problem then becomes finding the solution, which is a lot trickier.
One potential solution could be men's rights movements and lobbying, but this could also be a flawed solution in that it could just not lead to anything due to the silent majority not being loud enough. We could enstate more incel leaders, but this would be difficult without a coup.
So perhaps a coup is exactly what we need?
I believe complete societal reform and overhaul would be for the best. Everyone would be equal if everyone could agree to it. But no-one listens to people unless the person in power asks them to. So, as much as I support anarchy, it isn't really realistic.
Once we fight for power and HAVE that power, it would be more realistic to actually unify people under a banner of actual equality. Screw darwinism. If people could be equal we could take what is ours.
In conclusion, and as a TLDR,
We need equality, so we need to fight for it. If we can establish a government to force sheep to not settle for the highest quality available grass, then we can actually enstate a society that doesn't make people who don't have the ability to succeed unable to do so.
So, what led to women having power? Simple. Feminism. It's rise led to that. The problem then becomes finding the solution, which is a lot trickier.
One potential solution could be men's rights movements and lobbying, but this could also be a flawed solution in that it could just not lead to anything due to the silent majority not being loud enough. We could enstate more incel leaders, but this would be difficult without a coup.
So perhaps a coup is exactly what we need?
I believe complete societal reform and overhaul would be for the best. Everyone would be equal if everyone could agree to it. But no-one listens to people unless the person in power asks them to. So, as much as I support anarchy, it isn't really realistic.
Once we fight for power and HAVE that power, it would be more realistic to actually unify people under a banner of actual equality. Screw darwinism. If people could be equal we could take what is ours.
In conclusion, and as a TLDR,
We need equality, so we need to fight for it. If we can establish a government to force sheep to not settle for the highest quality available grass, then we can actually enstate a society that doesn't make people who don't have the ability to succeed unable to do so.
Hmmm let’s see what would I do if I had unchallenged authority over a government? State?? Nation??? What have you????
Immediately exile/deport everyone with incurable or fatal STD’s to other lands/countries/nations along with Branch Covidian Covid cultists who willingly and knowingly were stupid enough to drink the Fauci Kool-Aid.
Then I would implement a plan of sensible eugenics whereby every new birth would be genetically altered to be the best Chad or Stacy they could be by leaving in what are generally considered the good genetics and removing the crap genetics so no more suffering inkwells have to be born into a cruel world that does not want them.
Only the very best from now on would ever see the light of day under my government.
I don’t even believe women’s rights or at least not all of them would have to even be taken to create a better world for all.
As what I think is the absolute most important thing of all is to get control of is the colossal mass media aparatus the Jews presently have basically near unchallenged control over.
Put Hollywood, Talmudvision, newspapers, radio and internet in my hands and I’d simply swing the pendulum back towards the much heralded but still admittedly imperfect 1950’s as just a good start to begin my overall mission to create a radical traditionalist society and restore morality and common human decency once again.
That means no more ugly tattoos on anyone but especially not women, nor tattoos of any kind unless you were some form of prisoner or one of my aforementioned exile groups etc, etc.
Education at all levels would be greatly improved and restored and people would be taught manners, class and dignity once again.
I wouldn’t want to create a snobbish society either so I’d probably create a yearly month long clown world style festival where people could act without manners if they wanted like “the old days” before the revolution where the Turner Diaries was finally made into reality and world Jewry was utterly defeated in a global war for control of the planet and white european racial destiny.
Anyway I digress but yes as anyone can plainly see I 1000% agree with the late Dr. William Pierce that all you need is control of the mass media of news and entertainment and the minds of the lemmings are essentially yours to do whatever you want with them.
Independently of my own beliefs I 1000% believe the Milgram Experiment was also true.
The Covid Hoax proved that beyond a shadow of any doubt.
Immediately exile/deport everyone with incurable or fatal STD’s to other lands/countries/nations along with Branch Covidian Covid cultists who willingly and knowingly were stupid enough to drink the Fauci Kool-Aid.
Then I would implement a plan of sensible eugenics whereby every new birth would be genetically altered to be the best Chad or Stacy they could be by leaving in what are generally considered the good genetics and removing the crap genetics so no more suffering inkwells have to be born into a cruel world that does not want them.
Only the very best from now on would ever see the light of day under my government.
I don’t even believe women’s rights or at least not all of them would have to even be taken to create a better world for all.
As what I think is the absolute most important thing of all is to get control of is the colossal mass media aparatus the Jews presently have basically near unchallenged control over.
Put Hollywood, Talmudvision, newspapers, radio and internet in my hands and I’d simply swing the pendulum back towards the much heralded but still admittedly imperfect 1950’s as just a good start to begin my overall mission to create a radical traditionalist society and restore morality and common human decency once again.
That means no more ugly tattoos on anyone but especially not women, nor tattoos of any kind unless you were some form of prisoner or one of my aforementioned exile groups etc, etc.
Education at all levels would be greatly improved and restored and people would be taught manners, class and dignity once again.
I wouldn’t want to create a snobbish society either so I’d probably create a yearly month long clown world style festival where people could act without manners if they wanted like “the old days” before the revolution where the Turner Diaries was finally made into reality and world Jewry was utterly defeated in a global war for control of the planet and white european racial destiny.
Anyway I digress but yes as anyone can plainly see I 1000% agree with the late Dr. William Pierce that all you need is control of the mass media of news and entertainment and the minds of the lemmings are essentially yours to do whatever you want with them.
Independently of my own beliefs I 1000% believe the Milgram Experiment was also true.
The Covid Hoax proved that beyond a shadow of any doubt.
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Labor and their general skill sets for the general economy, we would just create enough laws on women where everything would balance itself out. Laws like, one man per woman where things like cheating or having more than one sexual partner will be met with extreme punitive measures.
Sounds authoritarian to me, but I have no problems with the concept of authoritarianism, what is necessary is simply just necessary. What must be, must be.Yeah, but I don't see myself as authoritarian. Imo that would just be a totally free society
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And I would add women into that. You can't have a free society if women constantly continue to instinctively support progressive values.
Did you live in a communist country? I do. I don't want back.
No, I live in a fascist crony capitalist nation which is much worse. Communism is a dream by comparison.
I thought about it. All the remedies for female hypergamy just not worth it, it's like curing "acne" on your nose by cutting it. All the movements that tried to fight human natural desires failed. Choosing the best male around is an evolutionary item, you cannot override it.
William Pierce was an interesting writer with his cosmology. Your beliefs is like Aldous Huxley meeting Adolf Hitler, an interesting combination. I myself however am against eugenics and bioegineering. Still, a very unique perception on our world fren. How would you describe yourself politically concerning the political compass?
So you cannot compare. I can. If you want to try living in a communist country, go outside in minus 30 Celsius, stand outside a store for 4 hours and come back with nothing.No, I live in a fascist crony capitalist nation which is much worse. Communism is a dream by comparison.
In a crony capitalist nation there is no going to the grocery store, you already can afford nothing before going there. You already have nothing at all, need not wait four hours outside in a line.
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For me the future of every western government is simple, economic collapse and civil war, for us our curiosity is what political structure emerges once this inevitability occurs. Females won't respect male rights no matter what, they don't respect them now, the only thing that can be done is to strip them of everything feminism has given them going back to a period where a male led government along with male made laws reigns supreme.
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Why not? I studied hard in STEM, I work hard, and I can cover my needs.In a crony capitalist nation there is no going to the grocery store, you already can afford nothing before going there. You already have nothing at all, need not wait four hours in a line.
The government should hold enough power to enact the following, control foid's degeneracy, and keep any possible cucks or white knighting liberals or other similar degenerates who want to allow society to degrade again in line, or simply take them out of it, and exploiting elite-owned corporations are nationalized/broken up/rid of kikes; they could be used as workers to fuel the new bettered society.
All subhumans AND Chads possibly born are to be immediately recorded and tagged for further education and guiding assisted by their parents; while subhumans would be schooled in self-defense, wealthmaxxing, and work suitable for a sub 5 which would maximize their potential, and would also be trained to looksmax to the furthest they can with possible corrective surgery being mandated...
Chads, on the other hand, would be trained only in self-humility, lookism, their privilege, and be sent to work in the trades in employment such as in the mines to ultimately fuel this new world.
Hypergamy and foid standards would be strictly regulated with education on lookism and a non-degenerate society, as well as the treatment of sub 6s; foids would be given out and prepared for marriage.
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we can do labour to tho. no reason why some guy with a strong jaw would be better at itLabor and their general skill sets for the general economy, we would just create enough laws on women where everything would balance itself out. Laws like, one man per woman where things like cheating or having more than one sexual partner will be met with extreme punitive measures.
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