Serious Debate: Political economic solutions to female hypergamy and general whoredom.

[MarquisDeSade]

By now everybody knows I'm an unorthodox authoritarian nationalistic communist and Marxist, something I am unapologetic for even when it is an unpopular political point of view here in the west.

I am creating this thread where people of all political economic backgrounds can put forward their general political economic solution to female hypergamy and general whoredom whether you're a communist like me, fascist, liberal, libertarian, religious theocrat, or state capitalist. I welcome all forms of political economic debate, but fair warning, I have spent a small lifetime studying all forms of political or economic thought where I have not chosen my current mental disposition hastily at all.

Now before we get started let's hash out an inevitable thing I see coming up in this thread, "Fucking commie, communism is Jewish!" My response to this will be that virtually all writers or proponents of economic capitalism from the 1960s to our modern present have been entirely Jewish in the west. In other words, that's not an argument.


In this thread we'll start with something simple, how would your political economic outlook solve the female hypergamy and general whoredom problem of the world today? For me under my perception of state socialism I have proposed a forceful redistributive and regulatory system of females, that would be my ultranationalistic communist solution to the problem, what would yours be politically?

 

[NirvanaFan1988]

solution to female hypergamy

Either relinquish foids' rights or it will never be happening
/thread

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Either relinquish foids' rights or it will never be happening
/thread

Agreed, and that is something I agree with as well.

 

[gangrenemax]

By now everybody knows I'm an unorthodox authoritarian nationalistic communist and Marxist, something I am unapologetic for even when it is an unpopular political point of view here in the west.

I am creating this thread where people of all political economic backgrounds can put forward their general political economic solution to female hypergamy and general whoredom whether you're a communist like me, fascist, liberal, libertarian, religious theocrat, or state capitalist. I welcome all forms of political economic debate, but fair warning, I have spent a small lifetime studying all forms of political or economic thought where I have not chosen my current mental disposition hastily at all.

Now before we get started let's hash out an inevitable thing I see coming up in this thread, "Fucking commie, communism is Jewish!" My response to this will be that virtually all writers or proponents of economic capitalism from the 1960s to our modern present have been entirely Jewish in the west. In other words, that's not an argument.


In this thread we'll start with something simple, how would your political economic outlook solve the female hypergamy and general whoredom problem of the world today? For me under my perception of state socialism I have proposed a forceful redistributive and regulatory system of females, that would be my ultranationalistic communist solution to the problem, what would yours be politically?

hope canada's maid system kills a ton of whores. Also don't fix things before they fall apart if you really want accelerationism let it burn to the fucking ground but protect yourself as best as you can and don't participate and hope the whores trade their pussies for a meal

 

[MarquisDeSade]

hope canada's maid system kills a ton of whores. Also don't fix things before they fall apart if you really want accelerationism let it burn to the fucking ground but protect yourself as best as you can and don't participate and hope the whores trade their pussies for a meal

Canadian Maid System? I'm unfamiliar with this, what exactly is that LeafBro?

Yes, accelerationism to the point of civilization collapse fixes many problems including the feminist cunt issue, I talk about civilization collapse often here as everybody generally knows. This thread however is more geared towards imagining if you were in charge of your own political economic state, how would you go about fixing the female problem?

 

[DespressedCurryCel1]

Start mass genocide of them

 

[gangrenemax]

Canadian Maid System? I'm unfamiliar with this, what exactly is that LeafBro?

Yes, accelerationism to the point of civilization collapse fixes many problems including the feminist cunt issue, I talk about civilization collapse often here as everybody generally knows. This thread however is more geared towards imagining if you were of your own political economic state, how would you go about fixing the female problem?

doctors assist the mentally ill to die. Basically suicide for pussies. Whores can't even fucking kill themselves with a gun lol.

Medical assistance in dying: Overview - Canada.ca

What medical assistance in dying is, who is eligible, how to make a request, the process, and who can provide medical assistance in dying.

www.canada.ca

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Start mass genocide of them

Well, as much as I understand your anger, if you kill all females there wouldn't be any way to have a girlfriend, wife, or opportunity to procreate. That obviously wouldn't work.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

doctors assist the mentally ill to die. Basically suicide for pussies. Whores can't even fucking kill themselves with a gun lol.

Medical assistance in dying: Overview - Canada.ca

What medical assistance in dying is, who is eligible, how to make a request, the process, and who can provide medical assistance in dying.

www.canada.ca

Ah, assisted suicide. Yes, I've heard some crazy things coming out of Canada with that.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

state assigned marriages

Agreed, I'm of the mind that women should be banned from all segments of society until they're married and have at least two children with some exceptions. All marriage laws would be male friendly.

 

[GriffithIsInnocent]

Theodemocracy but without jews

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Since female reproductive sexual behavior is inherently capitalistic in terms of hypergamy under a socialist state where all capital is heavily regulated for the people, the vaginal capitalism of a woman will also be heavily regulated under the state as well. Since sexual capital of women has become unequal for the majority of the male sexual proletariat like all capital will be redistributed to the proletarian mass, including vaginal sexual capital of females. Bourgeois western capitalistic feminism will be utterly destroyed and annihilated off the face of the planet by all means necessary.

Gives people some understanding of my own thinking regarding the issue at hand here.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Theodemocracy but without jews

I'm curious, please explain more.

 

[Mainländer]

Can anyone deny Abrahamic religions are the only solution to inceldom/feminism and other related problems?​

Having sex with dolls and the like are just copes, secular ideologies would just end up making incels' lives even worse, state-mandated gfs will NEVER EVER be a thing in secular societies.

As soon as God is taken out of the picture, people, with their natural impuses to worship something, turn to what looks the best to them to worship, which is young, attractive foids. Hence feminism, hence gynocentrism, hence paganism as well with all their "muh goddess of fertility" cucked shit. Humans have a natural gynocentric impulse that can only be countered by uncucked religions (no female deity garbage).

Men worshipping females is an abomination, women are basically weaker men who were created for the sole purpose of comforting and helping us.

And I'd argue especifically for Christianity (done the right, biblical way, not like cucked manmade denominations do). Islam causes powerful rich men to hoard multiple women to themselves thus creating inceldom anyway, through its polygamy.

ENFORCED CHRISTIAN MONOGAMY is the only 100% solution. Either people marry and stay married or stay celibate. Most people can't stay fully celibate; most people won't take the risk of harsh punishment and total ostracism to fornicate; most people can't get Chad/Stacy; most people would marry looks-/social-status-match.

You don't even have to kill people, strong ostracism for fornicators and adulterers would already do the trick for the most part, as most people, especially women, are social conformists through and through.

 

[SeetheBot9000]

We have to go back.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Can anyone deny Abrahamic religions are the only solution to inceldom/feminism and other related problems?​

Having sex with dolls and the like are just copes, secular ideologies would just end up making incels' lives even worse, state-mandated gfs will NEVER EVER be a thing in secular societies.

As soon as God is taken out of the picture, people, with their natural impuses to worship something, turn to what looks the best to them to worship, which is young, attractive foids. Hence feminism, hence gynocentrism, hence paganism as well with all their "muh goddess of fertility" cucked shit. Humans have a natural gynocentric impulse that can only be countered by uncucked religions (no female deity garbage).

Men worshipping females is an abomination, women are basically weaker men who were created for the sole purpose of comforting and helping us.

And I'd argue especifically for Christianity (done the right, biblical way, not like cucked manmade denominations do). Islam causes powerful rich men to hoard multiple women to themselves thus creating inceldom anyway, through its polygamy.

ENFORCED CHRISTIAN MONOGAMY is the only 100% solution. Either people marry and stay married or stay celibate. Most people can't stay fully celibate; most people won't take the risk of harsh punishment and total ostracism to fornicate; most people can't get Chad/Stacy; most people would marry looks-/social-status-match.

You don't even have to kill people, strong ostracism for fornicators and adulterers would already do the trick for the most part, as most people, especially women, are social conformists through and through.

Definitely getting some strong theocratic religious vibes here, nice.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

We have to go back.

I probably should of also mentioned monarchy but I've always viewed fascism as its modern equivalent or predecessor.

 

[Mainländer]

Definitely getting some strong theocratic religious vibes here, nice.

Glad you liked it. I'm not even a strong proporser of that, as I don't think people need to be killed or even jailed, just ostracism would make things way better than they are nowadays. But of course, this would demand MASSIVE cultural change, so even if the work started now (which it won't, sadly), it would take decades.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Glad you liked it. I'm not even a strong proporser of that, as I don't think people need to be killed or even jailed, just ostracism would make things way better than they are nowadays. But of course, this would demand MASSIVE cultural change, so even if the work started now (which it won't, sadly), it would take decades.

While most would say communism is atheistic I'm all for religious expression or worship as I am religious and spiritual myself as a political communist. Of course, I prefer pagan and eastern religions like Buddhism or Hinduism. Not a big fan of Abrahamic religions myself, but to each their own.

 

[GriffithIsInnocent]

The government itself would have to be based off of a theocracy. However, rather than one religion ruling it would be the Abrahamic religions excluding Judaism because the Jews are an extremely greedy group of people that will let their need for more cloud their judgement. The democratic part of this government comes in by having the remaining two religions rule over a nation equally. They would both possess the same amount of power, resources, and so on. Rather than one person representing their religions it would be a group of people representing their respective religions/ideals in a democracy. I thought perhaps each religion could be ruled by one person but I believe that absolute power corrupts absolutely. Ultimately, we have a nation following the rules of religion ensuring that we don’t have to deal with the female hypergamy problems of modern day society and because it consists of democratic principles we also ensure each religion rules equally and no one person has the power to overtake the people. There’s more to this but I’m too lazy to type.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

The government itself would have to be based off of a theocracy. However, rather than one religion ruling it would be the Abrahamic religions excluding Judaism because the Jews are an extremely greedy group of people that will let their need for more cloud their judgement. The democratic part of this government comes in by having the remaining two religions rule over a nation equally. They would both possess the same amount of power, resources, and so on. Rather than one person representing their religions it would be a group of people representing their respective religions/ideals in a democracy. I thought perhaps each religion could be ruled by one person but I believe that absolute power corrupts absolutely. Ultimately, we have a nation following the rules of religion ensuring that we don’t have to deal with the female hypergamy problems of modern day society and because it consists of democratic principles we also ensure each religion rules equally and no one person has the power to overtake the people. There’s more to this but I’m too lazy to type.

I would essentially in my ideal nation ban Jews from holding political office, ban them from finance, ban them from banking, and ban them from all high positions of business. They have historically time and time again have shown they're incapable of caring about or sympathizing with non-Jews. If that doesn't work, my next step would be full national expulsion or hard manual labor in a prison gulag where all the kvetching in the world wouldn't save them.

 

[GriffithIsInnocent]

I would essentially in my ideal nation ban Jews from holding political office, ban them from finance, ban them from bank, and ban them from all high positions of business. They have historically time and time again have shown they're incapable of caring about or sympathizing with non-Jews. If that doesn't work, my next step would be full expulsion.

Based. They are not to be trusted. Also, I mention Abrahamic religions but you could mix it up and add some more as long as they’re against modern day degeneracy.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Based. They are not to be trusted. Also, I mention Abrahamic religions but you could mix it up and add some more as long as they’re against modern day degeneracy.

Ultimately a political government needs to be male led and its court system of laws needs to be pro male. The cultural ethos of a nation pro male and heavily patriarchal, with that everything would fix itself in a matter of years or decades.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

 

[blackpillednigga]

anarcho-communism is unironically the solution to hypergamy and inceldom. I know it's a left wing ideology that is practiced by many foids but logically I cannot think of a better solution

 

[Leaving Hope]

Nobody actually understands Marxism.

We begin with this statement:

The German Ideology

The German Ideology

www.marxists.org

Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence.

What this means is that Communism is not an ideology to he implemented. It emerges from conditions. What conditions are those? Marx says as much one paragraph up.

This “alienation” (to use a term which will be comprehensible to the philosophers) can, of course, only be abolished given two practical premises. For it to become an “intolerable” power, i.e. a power against which men make a revolution, it must necessarily have rendered the great mass of humanity “propertyless,” and produced, at the same time, the contradiction of an existing world of wealth and culture, both of which conditions presuppose a great increase in productive power, a high degree of its development. And, on the other hand, this development of productive forces (which itself implies the actual empirical existence of men in their world-historical, instead of local, being) is an absolutely necessary practical premise because without it want is merely made general, and with destitution the struggle for necessities and all the old filthy business would necessarily be reproduced; and furthermore, because only with this universal development of productive forces is a universal intercourse between men established, which produces in all nations simultaneously the phenomenon of the “propertyless” mass (universal competition), makes each nation dependent on the revolutions of the others, and finally has put world-historical, empirically universal individuals in place of local ones. Without this, (1) communism could only exist as a local event; (2) the forces of intercourse themselves could not have developed as universal, hence intolerable powers: they would have remained home-bred conditions surrounded by superstition; and (3) each extension of intercourse would abolish local communism. Empirically, communism is only possible as the act of the dominant peoples “all at once” and simultaneously, which presupposes the universal development of productive forces and the world intercourse bound up with communism. Moreover, the mass of propertyless workers – the utterly precarious position of labour – power on a mass scale cut off from capital or from even a limited satisfaction and, therefore, no longer merely temporarily deprived of work itself as a secure source of life – presupposes the world market through competition. The proletariat can thus only exist world-historically, just as communism, its activity, can only have a “world-historical” existence. World-historical existence of individuals means existence of individuals which is directly linked up with world history.

Tl;dr: Universal competition under fully realized capitalism reduces profits down to nothing. To make up for this, the capitalists begin using every method possible to strip property from q working class. It reaches A point that the working class has to either do the same to the capitalists or die. With nobody owning property anymore, what you are left with is Communism.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

anarcho-communism is unironically the solution to hypergamy and inceldom. I know it's a left wing ideology that is practiced by many foids but logically I cannot think of a better solution

There's a reason I didn't mention anarchism in this thread, because anarchy isn't real. At best anarchy is a transitional period of disorder, chaos, and social upheaval leading up to the formation of a new government or state.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Nobody actually understands Marxism.

We begin with this statement:

The German Ideology

The German Ideology

www.marxists.org

What this means is that Communism is not an ideology to he implemented. It emerges from conditions. What conditions are those? Marx says as much one paragraph up.



Tl;dr: Universal competition under fully realized capitalism reduces profits down to nothing. To make up for this, the capitalists begin using every method possible to strip property from q working class. It reaches A point that the working class has to either do the same to the capitalists or die. With nobody owning property anymore, what you are left with is Communism.

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The WEF and their ilk are transhumanist techno-fascists, there's nothing communist about them. Everybody will own nothing because private corporations will own everything, it's a revival of medieval feudalism but much worse. Again, not communist. Communism means a proletarian working class uprising against the ruling class and their lackeys in a favor of a proletarian government, under my proletarian revolution this uprising against the ruling classes would incorporate a proletarian revolt against western feminism redistributing females amongst the oppressed male proletariat. Because feminism is just another economically classist system of oppression created by the capitalist system.

 

[Leaving Hope]

The WEF and their ilk are transhumanist techno-fascists, there's nothing communist about them. Everybody will own nothing because private corporations will own everything, it's a revival of feudalism but much worse. Again, not communist. Communism means a proletarian uprising against the ruling class and their lackeys in a favor of a proletarian government, under my proletarian revolution this uprising against the ruling classes would incorporate a proletarian revolt against western feminism redistributing females amongst the oppressed male proletariat.

I know. My point is that the Great Reset's "own nothing, be happy" is identical to the conditions Marx says will precede working class communist revolution.

Step one: The capitalists strip property off the workers, or, as Marx writes in The German Ideology,

For it to become an “intolerable” power, i.e. a power against which men make a revolution, it must necessarily have rendered the great mass of humanity “propertyless,”..., because only with this universal development of productive forces is a universal intercourse between men established, which produces in all nations simultaneously the phenomenon of the “propertyless” mass (universal competition),

This is still capitalism, but it is terminal phase capitalism.

Step two: The working class, now completely immiserated worldwide, has to do the same thing to the capitalists to survive.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

I know. My point is that the Great Reset's "own nothing, be happy" is identical to the conditions Marx says will precede working class communist revolution.

It's a perversion of socialism, like today's socialism is all about bailing out the powerful wealthy at the poor's expense or misery. Socialism for the rich, shit all for everybody else. Socialize the profits, privatize the losses, this has nothing to do with an economically communist system.

Socializing profits, the wealthy, or powerful is not communism, communism is a proletariat system, not one controlled by a bunch of wicked international industrialists, corporatists, aristocrats, and financiers. That's the definition of crony capitalism not communism.

 

[Leaving Hope]

It's a perversion of socialism, like today's socialism is all about bailing out the powerful wealthy at the poor's expense or misery. Socializing profits, the wealthy, or powerful is not communism, communism is a proletariat system, not one controlled by a bunch of wicked international industrialists, corporatists, and financiers. That's the definition of crony capitalism not communism.

The Great Reset isn't feudalism, it isn't socialism, or anything else. It's the final development of capitalism, though cloaked in what Marx called bourgeois socialism.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

The Great Reset isn't feudalism, it isn't socialism, or anything else. It's the final development of capitalism, though cloaked in what Marx called bourgeois socialism.

It's neofeudalism in corporate form and very transhumanistic, technocratic crony capitalism on steroids. [Also known as corporate fascism]

To conflate any of that with proletarian revolutionary communism is pure folly, the WEF of Davos, Switzerland is entirely counter revolutionary to communist ideals.

 

[Leaving Hope]

It's neofeudalism in corporate form and very transhumanistic, technocratic crony capitalism on steroids. [Also known as corporate fascism]

To conflate any of that with proletarian revolutionary communism is pure folly, the WEF of Davos, Switzerland is entirely counter revolutionary to communist ideals.

I, again, never conflated it with proletarian revolution. I said it is the final form of capitalist development which must ultimately induce such A revolution. The Great Reset is simply the configuration of capitalism most amenable to world revolution. It isn't technofeudalism, muh postneoliberal hegemonic technocratic feudalocracy, or anything else. Just capitalism.

This happens:

For it to become an “intolerable” power, i.e. a power against which men make a revolution, it must necessarily have rendered the great mass of humanity “propertyless,”..., because only with this universal development of productive forces is a universal intercourse between men established, which produces in all nations simultaneously the phenomenon of the “propertyless” mass (universal competition),

Then this happens

And that is Marx's theory of Communism realizedw.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

Nobody actually understands Marxism.

We begin with this statement:

The German Ideology

The German Ideology

www.marxists.org

What this means is that Communism is not an ideology to he implemented. It emerges from conditions. What conditions are those? Marx says as much one paragraph up.



Tl;dr: Universal competition under fully realized capitalism reduces profits down to nothing. To make up for this, the capitalists begin using every method possible to strip property from q working class. It reaches A point that the working class has to either do the same to the capitalists or die. With nobody owning property anymore, what you are left with is Communism.

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In the slavery of old times there was chattell or plantation slavery, nobody owned anything of course or had any property at all but it would hardly be called communist living. It really wasn't.

 

[Leaving Hope]

In the slavery of old times there was chattell or plantation slavery, nobody owned anything of course or had any property at all but it would hardly be called communist living. It wasn't.

The difference is that the plantation owner had things.

As I said, Marx believes that the bourgeoisie, the plantation owners of this society, will eventually hit a point where they have to strip property from the working class to keep their profits up, because competition drives profits down to nothing. Then the working class had to do the same to the capitalists. The first bit isn't Communism - moving to the second bit is. Do you understand?

 

[MarquisDeSade]

The difference is that the plantation owner had things.

As I said, Marx believes that the bourgeoisie, the plantation owners of this society, will eventually hit a point where they have to strip property from the working class to keep their profits up, because competition drives profits down to nothing. Then the working class had to do the same to the capitalists. The first bit isn't Communism - moving to the second bit is. Do you understand?

I would argue the Davos Crowd and the WEF are looking to become the global corporate super plantation owner [of essentially everyone], do you understand?

 

[Leaving Hope]

I would argue the Davos Crowd and the WEF are looking to become the global super plantation owner, do you understand?

They're already, collectively, the global plantation owners. They represent the wealthiest capitalists on the planet. They represent Chinese "Communist" capitalists and American capitalist capitalists alike.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

I know. My point is that the Great Reset's "own nothing, be happy" is identical to the conditions Marx says will precede working class communist revolution.

Step one: The capitalists strip property off the workers, or, as Marx writes in The German Ideology,


This is still capitalism, but it is terminal phase capitalism.

Step two: The working class, now completely immiserated worldwide, has to do the same thing to the capitalists to survive.

This is late stage capitalism to be sure in an era of the snake now eating its own tail or where capitalism is self cannibalizing itself to survive a bit longer, but what they're resetting to isn't global communism, more on the lines of global slavery where they own everything where the inhabitants are their microchipped slaves under their technocratic corporate fascist model. Of course, the west has been trained so well to hate communism where everything that is disliked publicly is idiotically referred to as communism because our population of Pavlovian Dogs are not intelligent enough to differentiate between entirely different systems. Their dumbing down of the population unfortunately successful.

 

[Leaving Hope]

This is late stage capitalism to be sure in an era of the snake now eating its own tail or where capitalism is self cannibalizing itself to survive a bit longer, but what they're resetting to isn't global communism, more on the lines of global slavery where they own everything where the inhabitants are their microchipped slaves under their technocratic corporate fascist model. Of course, the west has been trained so well to hate communism where everything that is disliked publicly is idiotically referred to as communism because our population of Pavlovian Dogs are not intelligent enough to differentiate between entirely different systems. Their dumbing down of the population unfortunately successful.

I am going to bang my head into the wall now. Excuse me.

*I know* they're not Communists. But the conditions they are creating are an essential precursor for the existence of Real Communism; they are going to try to do this in a way that avoids proletarian revolution. You have to have a propertyless proletariat in order to have the conditions for class war and the abolition of property for the capitalist class. Do you understand?

The conditions of the Great Reset anticipate the transition to Communism within capitalism, but are not yet Communist itself - indeed, the workers will be communized within the capitalist mode of production as the capitalists strip them of property and they will be compelled to end capitalism in order to survive the Great Reset. Do you understand?

For Marx, this is a violent, enormously destructive phase which humanity must pass through en route to Real Communism. The fact that capitalism wasn't developed enough in 1917 Russia or 1949 China for this process to occur is why those societies were not capable of achieving Real Communism. Do you understand?

 

[MarquisDeSade]

I am going to bang my head into the wall now. Excuse me.

*I know* they're not Communists. But the conditions they are creating are an essential precursor for the existence of Real Communism; they are going to try to do this in a way that avoids proletarian revolution. You have to have a propertyless proletariat in order to have the conditions for class war and the abolition of property for the capitalist class. Do you understand?

The conditions of the Great Reset anticipate the transition to Communism within capitalism, but are not yet Communist itself - indeed, the workers will be communized within the capitalist mode of production as the capitalists strip them of property and they will be compelled to end capitalism in order to survive the Great Reset. Do you understand?

For Marx, this is a violent, enormously destructive phase which humanity must pass through en route to Real Communism. The fact that capitalism wasn't developed enough in 1917 Russia or 1949 China is why those societies were not capable of achieving Real Communism. Do you understand?

It's not even a precursor to real communism, they're full of power fueled eugenic freaks with aspirations of killing off two thirds of the entire global population just to have it all to themselves, if they succeed in their ambitious goals, do you even think they're going to keep any significant number of people alive for their global transition of owning it all? Nope.

A proletarian revolution will happen and I hope every single globalist gets slaughtered without mercy. They're not communist at all, their end goal isn't communism, it's hardcore fascist technocracy with aspirations of population reduction because human life is worthless in their eyes.

 

[Leaving Hope]

It's not even a precursor to real communism, they're full of power fueled eugenic freaks with aspirations of killing off two thirds of the entire global population just to have it all to themselves, if they succeed in their ambitious goals, do you even think they're going to keep any significant number of people alive for their global transition of owning it all? Nope.

A proletarian revolution will happen and I hope every single globalist gets slaughtered without mercy. They're not communist at all, their end goal isn't communism, it's hardcore fascist technocracy with aspirations of population reduction because human life is worthless in their eyes.

You don't understand, again.

In order for actual, worldwide working class revolution to occur, this has to go through to a point that it compels the masses to revolt.

 

[SuperPerfectCel]

I don't see a solution forming without accelerating the problem.

We need to reach peak men dropping out of society and then see what the powers that be think to do about it.

 

[someseek3r]

It would not solve the problem, but professional sex workers provided by the state would be a way to treat incels like human beings.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

You don't understand, again.

In order for actual, worldwide working class revolution to occur, this has to go through to a point that it compels the masses to revolt.

The WEF Davos Crowd doesn't want a working class proletarian revolution dude, they day dream of artificial intelligence, automation, and robots doing everything replacing everyone. Once again, what you're saying does not compute.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

I don't see a solution forming without accelerating the problem.

We need to reach peak men dropping out of society and then see what the powers that be think to do about it.

By the looks of it men are already dropping out of society the fastest pace ever, I like to think of it as the great male general strike and resignation.

 

[Leaving Hope]

The WEF Davos Crowd doesn't want a working class proletarian revolution dude, they day dream of artificial intelligence, automation, and robots doing everything replacing everyone. Once again, what you're saying does not compute.

I KNOW THEY DON'T WANT A WORLDWIDE WORKING CLASS REVOLUTION MY NIGGER
WHAT I AM TELLING YOU IS THAT THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY ANTICIPATE COMING DOWN THE LINE IS THE PRECURSOR MARX PREDICTED AS CAUSING SUCH A REVOLUTION ANYWAY.
LOOK HERE.

For it to become an “intolerable” power, i.e. a power against which men make a revolution, it must necessarily have rendered the great mass of humanity “propertyless,”..., because only with this universal development of productive forces is a universal intercourse between men established, which produces in all nations simultaneously the phenomenon of the “propertyless” mass (universal competition

THIS HAS TO HAPPEN BEFORE YOU CAN GET SUCH A REVOLUTION. THE DAVOS SET DOESN'T WANT THIS REVOLUTION, BUT THEY HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO CREATE THE CONDITIONS ALLOWING IT. THE TENDENCY OF THE RATE OF PROFIT TO FALL IS WHAT IS FORCING THEM TO SOCIALIZE THE WORKING CLASS BY TAKING THEIR PROPERTY AWAY. THIS IN TURN IS WHAT ALLOWS FOR THE WORKING CLASS TO TAKE THEIRS AWAY. JESUS CHRIST.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

I KNOW THEY DON'T WANT A WORLDWIDE WORKING CLASS REVOLUTION MY NIGGER
WHAT I AM TELLING YOU IS THAT THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY ANTICIPATE COMING DOWN THE LINE IS THE PRECURSOR MARX PREDICTED AS CAUSING SUCH A REVOLUTION ANYWAY.
LOOK HERE.




THIS HAS TO HAPPEN BEFORE YOU CAN GET SUCH A REVOLUTION. THE DAVOS SET DOESN'T WANT THIS REVOLUTION, BUT THEY HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO CREATE THE CONDITIONS ALLOWING IT. JESUS CHRIST.

I'm just so sick and tired of hearing from conservatards, "The WEF crowd is creating a global hard reset for international communism." Every fucking day ad nauseam, and you would think those idiots with their love of everything capitalism would love the WEF because it doesn't get any more crony capitalism than that crowd. Wasn't sure if you were just another libertarian conservatard or not.

Explain this view more to me, I kinda see what you're saying but I need you to fill in some more blanks here. Why are they letting this happen in your mind? What's the end goal of it all?

 

[Leaving Hope]

I'm just so sick and tired of hearing from conservatards, "The WEF crowd is creating a global hard reset for communism." Every fucking day ad nauseam, and you would think those idiots with their love of everything capitalism would love the WEF because it doesn't get any more crony capitalism than that crowd. Wasn't sure if you were just another libertarian conservatard or not.

Explain this view more to me, I kinda see what you're saying but I need you to fill in some more blanks here. Why are they letting this happen in your mind?

This is what Marx says the preconditions to world working class revolution must be like. Again, from his unpublished manuscript The German Ideology, 1844. Note the bolded portions.

This “alienation” (to use a term which will be comprehensible to the philosophers) can, of course, only be abolished given two practical premises. For it to become an “intolerable” power, i.e. a power against which men make a revolution, it must necessarily have rendered the great mass of humanity “propertyless,” and produced, at the same time, the contradiction of an existing world of wealth and culture, both of which conditions presuppose a great increase in productive power, a high degree of its development.

Gee, that bolded part almost sounds like the Great Reset's "you will own nothing and you will be happy" slogan, doesn't it?

And, on the other hand, this development of productive forces (which itself implies the actual empirical existence of men in their world-historical, instead of local, being) is an absolutely necessary practical premise because without it want is merely made general, and with destitution the struggle for necessities and all the old filthy business would necessarily be reproduced; and furthermore, because only with this universal development of productive forces is a universal intercourse between men established, which produces in all nations simultaneously the phenomenon of the “propertyless” mass (universal competition), makes each nation dependent on the revolutions of the others, and finally has put world-historical, empirically universal individuals in place of local ones.

He's talking about globalism being the fundamental accelerator behind the Reset. As universal competition becomes normalized, the whole world forms one vast labor market for the capitalists to exploit. This universal competition eventually drives the rate of profit down which forces them to strip property from the working class. This process of taking property off of the working class forms the revolutionary subject, the immiserated proletariat, on a global scale, revolutionary not merely because they are poor but because this is a new type of poverty among vast, splendid wealth.

Without this, (1) communism could only exist as a local event;

Sounds like 20th century Communism, doesn't it?

(2) the forces of intercourse themselves could not have developed as universal, hence intolerable powers: they would have remained home-bred conditions surrounded by superstition; and (3) each extension of intercourse would abolish local communism. Empirically, communism is only possible as the act of the dominant peoples “all at once” and simultaneously, which presupposes the universal development of productive forces and the world intercourse bound up with communism. Moreover, the mass of propertyless workers – the utterly precarious position of labour – power on a mass scale cut off from capital or from even a limited satisfaction and, therefore, no longer merely temporarily deprived of work itself as a secure source of life – presupposes the world market through competition. The proletariat can thus only exist world-historically, just as communism, its activity, can only have a “world-historical” existence. World-historical existence of individuals means existence of individuals which is directly linked up with world history.

And that sounds like the information Age.

They aren't letting this happen - they don't have a choice. The natural capitalist response to full globalization is to strip the world property of the working class, as they have no more markets to expand into and they have to start cannibalizing the working class.

 

[MarquisDeSade]

This is what Marx says the preconditions to world working class revolution must be like. Again, from his unpublished manuscript The German Ideology, 1844. Note the bolded portions.



Gee, that bolded part almost sounds like the Great Reset's "you will own nothing and you will be happy" slogan, doesn't it?



He's talking about globalism being the fundamental accelerator behind the Reset. As universal competition becomes normalized, the whole world forms one vast labor market for the capitalists to exploit. This universal competition eventually drives the rate of profit down which forces them to strip property from the working class. This process of taking property off of the working class forms the revolutionary subject, the immiserated proletariat, on a global scale, revolutionary not merely because they are poor but because this is a new type of poverty among vast, splendid wealth.



Sounds like 20th century Communism, doesn't it?




And that sounds like the information Age.

Yeah, this is where we'll have to disagree and split ways I think. They don't really want a proletarian revolution against international capitalism, they're very afraid of that, and of course it is largely inevitable because of their own malfeasance. Sure, they can buy up all of the property, land, resources, businesses, and industry up for cheap with a collapsing global economic environment but that's just going to fuel a proletariat revolution even more especially when you add a devalued currency in the backdrop on the road of being completely worthless. Their power is maintained so long as they can keep law and order, the road we're on currently essentially is one where they'll lose both. They have ambitious plans for global domination no doubt, but I think it will be more of a case of their own mental ineptitude that will bring them to ruin instead while a proletarian revolution flourishes in the aftermath.

 

[Leaving Hope]

Yeah, this is where we'll have to disagree and split ways I think. They don't really want a proletarian revolution again international capitalism, they're very afraid of that, and of course it is largely inevitable because of their own malfeasance. Sure, they can buy all of the property, land, resources, businesses, and industry up for cheap with a collapsing global economic environment but that's just going to fuel a proletariat revolution even more especially when you add a devalued currency in the backdrop on the road of being completely worthless. Their power is maintained so long as they can keep law and order, the road we're on currently essentially is one where they'll lose both.

Are you dumb or something?

I KNOW THEY DON'T WANT A WORLD WORKING CLASS REVOLUTION.
What I am saying is that they are creating the conditions Marx said were necessary for such a revolution to occur in spite of this, as he said they would.

Communist Manifesto (Chapter 2)

On the relation between Communists and the working class

www.marxists.org

You are horrified at our intending to do away with private property. But in your existing society, private property is already done away with for nine-tenths of the population; its existence for the few is solely due to its non-existence in the hands of those nine-tenths. You reproach us, therefore, with intending to do away with a form of property, the necessary condition for whose existence is the non-existence of any property for the immense majority of society.

This wasn't true in 1848, or 1883, or 1917, or 1949, or 1959. A worker could, with effort, acquire property and become a fully integrated part of capitalist society. It will become increasingly true on a global scale in the future, paving the way for world working class revolution.