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Experiment (Comparative politics) If you could choose which one of these ten countries to be born in, which would you choose?

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PPEcel

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Rules

You will be born as a heterosexual male.

You do not get to choose your ethnicity, social class, location, or family. The birth lottery will decide.

You also do not get to choose your facial attractiveness, height, frame, physical and mental health, or personality traits. The birth lottery will decide.

Notes

I chose these ten countries as they are the most represented amongst and account for over two-thirds of the global incel community; it is more likely than not that you have experience living in at least one of these ten countries.

Feel free to explain your thought process in detail in the comments.

Variables that I personally considered and would encourage you to consider:
  • Economic productivity
  • Socioeconomic inequality
  • Educational attainment and social mobility
  • Life expectancy and access to healthcare
  • Functioning of political institutions and civil society
  • Civil liberties and human rights
  • Incarceration rate
  • Gender inequality
  • Legality of prostitution
  • Other legal or cultural factors that might disproportionately affect heterosexual men
 
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I am from the USA but id choose Germany. The laws are pretty based with the drinking age at 16, age of consent 14 (Great when you are young). All the foids there are super hot which may be suicidefuel for some but I am pretty sure prostitution is legal there so you could bone some sexy blonde girls for a price (im a escortcel btw).
 
netherlands.i know it isn't on the list but i could be 6'4 if i was born in the netherlands.
 
I heard that USA is the only first world country where hate speech is legal. If this is true then USA is the only place where I can be really based
 
US Australia and turkey let’s fucking goooooooo
 
Only reason to pick the USA is access to guns, great for aspiring suicidecels.
 
Probably brazil because it would be easier to ascend there than any of the others
 
Australia, Canada and UK. Preferably Australia.
For economic opportunities and for the nice weather, mostly.

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The Heritage Foundation

Since our founding in 1973, The Heritage Foundation has been working to advance the principles of free enterprise, limited government, individual freedom, traditional American values, and a strong national defense.
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Netherlands for Chad height
 
Somalia not on the list? I would rather be a child soldier than a Western male tbh.
 
USA sucks i wish i was born in some third world shit hole than this country because at least i wouldnt know about western degeneracy
 
Brazil. It has the lowest age of losing virginity. So I have a high chance of fucking before turning 18. Comparatively more faithful foids. Plus I can get to see topless whores on the beach all day.
 
Sweden or Germany
 
I'm italian but I would go with germany or sweden (for neetbuxx) or usa (access to guns to kys).

Thinking about easing an (another) incel life is the top priority I think. No point in hoping to be born as normie/chad
Diocel said:
Italy.
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Can I ask you why?
 
Dotrinfobe said:
faithful? brazil? these two words dont belong in one sentence.

heard brazil is one of most promiscous places on earth and that cheating is very common there.

any brasilcel give any input on this?
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I didn't know that. I read that South American countries have low divorce rates like Colombia.
@Mainländer thoughts?
 
Sweden has nice cold weather and hot girls. Also high chances to be a Chad. It's good for NEETbuxxing, you get paid(!) for studying.

Chadstralia well, it's just a nice country with everything you need. Tho internet sucks. But I would prefer the South like Melbourne, I don't like it when it's too hot.

Germany is a good mix of everything I guess.
 
Largely monoethnic, low Gini, high HDI, strong social safety net countries that run a government surplus for me please.
Lower ceiling, but also much, much higher floor
 
When you are ugly I'd doesn't matter which country you live because your relationship status will be single anyway. So I choose Germany because it has the highest quality of life, people are civilised, good wages, nice roads, nice cars, great economy, great football, the best health system in the world, universal Healthcare. Overall its the best country on this list. It is better to be an incel in a developed country and at least to have a little bit of comfort, rather than an incel in some shithole country where the power runs out constantly, you sweat like a pig in the summer and don't even have air conditioning, the mafia rules the country and you barely have anything to eat.
 
metabuxx said:
I didn't know that. I read that South American countries have low divorce rates like Colombia.
@Mainländer thoughts?
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Brazil is full of promiscuity and feminism but I think it's still not as bad as most of the first world.
 
joe_incel123 said:
Sweden has nice cold weather and hot girls. Also high chances to be a Chad. It's good for NEETbuxxing, you get paid(!) for studying.

Chadstralia well, it's just a nice country with everything you need. Tho internet sucks. But I would prefer the South like Melbourne, I don't like it when it's too hot.

Germany is a good mix of everything I guess.
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I like cold countries, so that's one reason I picked Sweden. That and Swedes generally respect personal space, cue all the memes about Swedes lining up for the bus. The one downside is their Swedish model on prostitution -- yuk -- but nothing that a two-hour flight to Germany won't fix. Canada is also similarly cold but too far from continental Europe.

Germany is actually a pretty good mix of everything -- NEETbux plus legal prostitution, hell yeah. Top of the list.

Chadstralia can get uncomfortably hot, prostitution laws vary by state, but NSW generally has the most liberal ones. Not too bad, it's a middling option.
LiterallyASoyboy said:
Only reason to pick the USA is access to guns, great for aspiring suicidecels.
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JFL :feelskek:

JosefMengelecel said:
I heard that USA is the only first world country where hate speech is legal. If this is true then USA is the only place where I can be really based
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Yes and no. The U.S. does have one of the world's most liberal free speech regimes, thanks to the First Amendment and the Supreme Court. Probably the United States' biggest asset imho.
 
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I think Italy would be a nice country to rot in. Get one of those abandoned villas on Sardinia for like $1. Spend my days fishing and making mozzarella. Spend my nights drinking wine.
 
Italy because I have lineage there and I'm probably most Italian looking then anything else. I also like Italian food and have always wanted to live there.

Didn't vote for anything else, but I'm guessing Brazil is most people's best chance for "ascending" but it's a violent shithole tbh.
 
dont know
 
Diocel said:
I like the culture and they are fellow meds.
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fair but it's still a shithole don't expect to be in the first world
WarriorSkull said:
I think Italy would be a nice country to rot in. Get one of those abandoned villas on Sardinia for like $1. Spend my days fishing and making mozzarella. Spend my nights drinking wine.
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Do you realize italy too has the euro, right? Villas in sardinia cost like 10mil €
 
Sweden/Germany. Although if you'd be respawned with a total random start, every incel would likely improve their overall position and happiness level, regardless of country. Human beings care about relative social status inequalities above all else - material conditions (beyond a basic threshold) are less important than you think.

Inceldom (in varying degrees) affects roughly the bottom 20% of males in a society. If you can reroll as an incel you cannot really lose - with the exception of being reborn in North Korea or a war torn African garbage heap. I'd prefer normiedom in a shithole like Brazil over inceldom in Sweden.
 
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JFL @ people that choose to be born
 
AAAAAAAAAAAcel said:
fair but it's still a shithole don't expect to be in the first world

Do you realize italy too has the euro, right? Villas in sardinia cost like 10mil €
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Yea I’m a uncultured ameromutt probably confusing Sambuco with Sardinia. I know they can cost up to 100k to renovate, but that’s assuming normalfag foid standards of living.
 
@Sweedee @metabuxx @dogcel256

You have no idea what you're in for. The average foid here isn't really as attractive as the media claims to be (the "beautiful brazilian woman" from the stereotype are actually a minority), plus the violence all around simply make things not worth it if you're gringo.

dogcel256 said:
Probably brazil because it would be easier to ascend there than any of the others
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Ha ha ha ha
hahahahahahahahaha

Maybe, MAYBE if by "ascending" you mean:

1 - playing the "Just be gringo" game, or being a betabuxx, in a way that you give foids hope to get a green card or live outside of this shithole (basically the same as SEAmaxxing, except most foids aren't as faithful as the asian ones and aren't as facially attractive either ); And from a personal experience, I've seen BR foids cucking their boyfriends as soon as they meet a local Chad from a foreign country
2 - settling for 2/10 foids, and EVEN THEM demand you to be neurotypical as an incel/ugly male.

metabuxx said:
Brazil. It has the lowest age of losing virginity. So I have a high chance of fucking before turning 18. Comparatively more faithful foids. Plus I can get to see topless whores on the beach all day.
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Unless you promise them shit over the fact that you are a foreigner, if you're ugly they aren't fucking you.
"Faithful foids", hahahahahahahahahahaha.
The "topless whores on the beach" is BS lol, unless you mean foids sunbathing but they don't flash their tits around.

Dotrinfobe said:
faithful? brazil? these two words dont belong in one sentence.

heard brazil is one of most promiscous places on earth and that cheating is very common there.

any brasilcel give any input on this?
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It's really easy to mog or be mogged in Brazil, so most foids won't think twice about cheating if they have the opportunity to find a legit chad.
 
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retard if you pick united states
 
Jfl at picking dying UK.
 
I chose USA, Canada and Australia and if I must have chosen 4, I would have added the UK. UK is last, because it has EU-style climate policy and takes part in EU ETS. And because UK spends 0.7 of GNI on development aid unlike USA, Canada and Australia that spend very little. UK is poorer than Canada, Australia and USA.

Being born in Italy would have the highest chances of being born handsome. But Italy has had a terrible low TFR for long, so there is lots of males competing for very small cohorts of young women. Italy's economy is ruined by lack of young people and inflexible labour laws (they can't even keep their young people and immigrants there). Turkey would be good choice for climate and businessman perspective, because it has the most growing economy by far and climate policy is to increase emissions as much and fast as possible. Turkey can grow 7 % annually: https://tradingeconomics.com/turkey/gdp-growth-annual

Brazilians are handsome, hairless and have lots of sex. Not a lot of truecels there.

It is a big advantage to be a native English speaker in this world. Most of you don't realise that. I am not fluent in English and can't pronounce it at all.
 
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AutisticMonstrosity said:
It is a big advantage to be a native English speaker in this world. Most of you don't realise that. I am not fluent in English and can't pronounce it at all.
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I will say that Swedes (and other Northern Europeans) are generally near-fluent in English, it's pretty much a necessity since they're very small yet export-dependent economies.
 
everyone is chad in Australia. and life is pretty good overall if you're German :feelsokman:
 
Would choose like Brazil where the degenerancy is less than US , but have seen some horrible clips on the internet of the gore shit that happens there
 
PPEcel said:
Rules

You will be born as a heterosexual male.

You do not get to choose your ethnicity, social class, location, or family. The birth lottery will decide.

You also do not get to choose your facial attractiveness, height, frame, physical and mental health, or personality traits. The birth lottery will decide.

Notes

I chose these ten countries as they are the most represented amongst and account for over two-thirds of the global incel community; it is more likely than not that you have experience living in at least one of these ten countries.

Feel free to explain your thought process in detail in the comments.

Variables that I personally considered and would encourage you to consider:
  • Economic productivity
  • Socioeconomic inequality
  • Educational attainment and social mobility
  • Life expectancy and access to healthcare
  • Functioning of political institutions and civil society
  • Civil liberties and human rights
  • Incarceration rate
  • Gender inequality
  • Legality of prostitution
  • Other legal or cultural factors that might disproportionately affect heterosexual men
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Germany for lowest risk of the least painful life

USA for the highest risk life, no safety nets, truly on your own. Sink or swim.
 
Germany, sweden and probably canada are cucked af wouldnt pick those.
Brazil and turkey are too poor shitholes.
Would preferably choose usa, then maybe italy and australia.

Just lol at people picking sweden, have fun with 70% taxes and most feminsim in the world. It's also the easiest country to migrate to so if you're born anywhere else and feel like you need free health care and an apartment(actual citizens have to wait 20 years in good goy queues) just go there.
 
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PPEcel said:
I will say that Swedes (and other Northern Europeans) are generally near-fluent in English, it's pretty much a necessity since they're very small yet export-dependent economies.
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That is bullshit. People tend to overestimate greatly their ability. And it's very field-limited. Limited to some area of life which one is familiar with while being totally lost for words in other fields. How tiny share of population honestly deals with export-sales? And Germany, Sweden and Russia are Finland's biggest export markets and they use Swedish, German and Russian with them (all of which are taught in school here).

And Finnish is as far from English as Japanese or Chinese. Japanese though have lots of English words. Many Japanese(-only) games have menus only in English like Persona 5.

I don't personally know anyone who is genuinely fluent in English.

I only started learning English at third class when I was 9 or 10. I did not learn ANYTHING. It was only in adulthood when I started learning English out of practical necessity. Before that only things I knew was: start, pause, load, save, exit, memory slot, memory card
 
EyesAreSoCold said:
Germany, sweden and probably canada are cucked af wouldnt pick those.
Brazil and turkey are too poor shitholes.
Would preferably choose usa, then maybe italy and australia.

Just lol at people picking sweden, have fun with 70% taxes and most feminsim in the world. It's also the easiest country to migrate to so if you're born anywhere else and feel like you need free health care and an apartment(actual citizens have to wait 20 years in good goy queues) just go there.
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If you exclude Kurd areas, Turkey is a developed industrial state and no way can be described objectively as a shithole. They have a some kind of fetish with inflation always around 10 per cent, even though the central bank target is 5 per cent (which would still be high), but they don't take the 5 % target seriously, the real target for inflation is under 10 %. Quicker inflation does not make the economy worse.

Brazil has an enormous nigger and mixed race problem: pure Europeans are already a minority. They live quite well there though import taxes are high. Climate is excellent.

Sweden spends at least 1 % of GNI on development aid and has the strictest climate policy and greenhouse gas cutting targets. Sweden has the worst women shortage because of immigration. I would choose Sweden last on that list.
 
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AutisticMonstrosity said:
If you exclude Kurd areas, Turkey is a developed industrial state and no way can be described objectively as a shithole.

Brazil has an enormous nigger and mixed race problem: pure Europeans are already a minority. They live quite well there though import taxes are high. Climate is excellent.

Sweden spends at least 1 % of GNI on development aid and has the strictest climate policy and greenhouse gas cutting targets. Sweden has the worst women shortage because of immigration. I would chose Sweden last on that list.
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ye i probably underestimate turkey economically tbh
 
I'd definitely prefer a place with good social safety nets so that worse case scenario (I turn out to be incel again or smth) I can get neetbux and not rot in the street since euthanasia still not available. Dont really care about the "cucked"ness of social welfare, sounds like 1% brainwashing to me.

If you're born attractive then any choice would be a good one because honestly you cant lose either way, so I pick for worst case scenario.

USA (where I live) is a troll pick. At least it isn't Brazil (why is it even here xd).
 
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