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We trained chickens to react to an average human female face but not to an average male face (or vice versa). In a subsequent test, the animals showed preferences for faces consistent with human sexual preferences (obtained from university students). This suggests that human preferences arise from general properties of nervous systems, rather than from face-specific adaptations.
 
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how did they figure out what the chikens thought tho?
 
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This is what foids have been trained to do too
 
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Selinity said:
how did they figure out what the chikens thought tho?
by how they react you grAYcel
 
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Selinity said:
how did they figure out what the chikens thought tho?
They asked them, duh.
 
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I wonder how far down this preference for attractive human faces goes down the animal intelligence chain.
I'd guess that chickens meet the minimal threshold for this, as I can't imagine insects or mosquitos caring about human faces.
I know that dogs do care, however, and dogs can even be trained to be distinguish race and hold basic concepts of danger and threat according to race (there are dogs that can be trained to attack black people exclusively, for example).
 
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epillepsy said:
I wonder how far down this preference for attractive human faces goes down the animal intelligence chain.
Probably for every animal that is attracted to fragrance, in sync with human lookist conventions of harmony and strength and so on.
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I'd guess that chickens meet the minimal threshold for this, as I can't imagine insects or mosquitos caring about human faces.
I think it's the opposite with insects and mosquitoes. Those creatures seem to be attracted rather than repelled to ugly looking people or traits and buzz around them and land on them more frequently. Imo you see the images of a lot of darker skinned people in poor countries surrounding by buzzing insects and it could be because the odor and skin tone resembles poop to the insects. It's brutal.
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Insectpill and skinpill. If your skin is naturally oily, greasy or dark (medium brown poo skinned) you likely have these problems.

People say it is just looks, nah it's everything. I can't be a normie with these kinds of problems, makes it hard to even socialize.

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Maybe it is just the texture or odor that comes from the sweat on your skin. Or some of it can be random.

I only based the idea of insects being attracted to darker poo skin on the fact that I don't see white normies as readily surrounded by insects. Could also have to do with blood type like in the case of mosquitoes.

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I know that dogs do care, however, and dogs can even be trained to be distinguish race and hold basic concepts of danger and threat according to race (there are dogs that can be trained to attack black people exclusively, for example).
Yeah dogs have been known to hate ethnic people and be more aggressive and hostile on average to men than women. Obviously ethnic men then come out the worst with their experiences with dogs Idlevillagercel @Idlevillagercel
 
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I think it's the opposite with insects and mosquitoes. Those creatures seem to be attracted rather than repelled to ugly looking people or traits and buzz around them more frequently. Imo you see the images of a lot of darker skinned people in poor countries surrounding by buzzing insects and it could be because the odor and skin tone resembles poop to the insects. It's brutal.
I can see how they would be attracted to colors that resemble shit, like flies that eat shit.
Even if insects are colorblind, they would still discern darkness and lightness and can choose their victims that way.

Yeah dogs have been known to hate ethnic people and be more aggressive and hostile on average to men than women. Obviously ethnic men then come out the worst with their experiences with dogs Idlevillagercel @Idlevillagercel
Yeah, I wonder if it has something to do with hormones that men have compared to women.
I know I've proved in the past that rodents tend to attack females and avoid males due to certain different pheromones that the genders give off.
Perhaps it's the opposite with dogs; they sense testosterone and take it as a threat.
 
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epillepsy said:
I can see how they would be attracted to colors that resemble shit, like flies that eat shit.
Even if insects are colorblind, they would still discern darkness and lightness and can choose their victims that way.
I think odor and oils come in too. So for example a brown skinned person would produce more of the attractive odors and oils than a white person's skin was and combined with their skin tone would make for a welcoming place for an insect to land and crawl on. This was my first realization btw that the racepill is non-negotiable and that it doesn't matter what your personal beliefs are about how race shouldn't matter tehgymcel420 @tehgymcel420
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Yeah, I wonder if it has something to do with hormones that men have compared to women.
I know I've proved in the past that rodents tend to attack females and avoid males due to certain different pheromones that the genders give off.
Perhaps it's the opposite with dogs; they sense testosterone and take it as a threat.
Here are some "official" answers.

Ofc they try to soften it by saying the dogs are "afraid" but we all know that's putting it lightly. Many dogs that react viciously around ethnic darks skinned males. One of the reason why a lot of white nationalists and women (jfl) like dogs imo.
 
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your personality said:
I think odor and oils come in too. So for example a brown skinned person would produce more of the attractive odors and oils than a white person's skin was and combined with their skin tone would make for a welcoming place for an insect to land and crawl on. This was my first realization btw that the racepill is non-negotiable and that it doesn't matter what your personal beliefs are about how race shouldn't matter tehgymcel420 @tehgymcel420

Here are some "official" answers.

Ofc they try to soften it by saying the dogs are "afraid" but we all know that's putting it lightly. Many dogs that react viciously around ethnic darks skinned males. One of the reason why a lot of white nationalists and women (jfl) like dogs imo.
If they were "afraid," the dogs wouldn't attack.
It would activate their flight response rather than their fight response.
It's interesting that rodents, which are small but disease vectors, attack when they sense weakness (foids), whereas dogs attack when they sense threat (strength).
I've noticed a disparity in this aggressiveness between bitches and male dogs as well (I've owned both).
When a threat is sensed, the bitch will often hide behind the male dog, which will make a great show of barking and aggressiveness.
This animal model is mirrored in human females, who never put their lives in danger under any circumstance and would gladly sacrifice a male to not get injured, let alone survive.

Women like dogs because they use them as sex toys, as well as to sic them on unattractive men. Women like cats because they kill mice, who are natural enemies of women. This is why musophobia is so much more common among foids than men.
 
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If they were "afraid," the dogs wouldn't attack.
It would activate their flight response rather than their fight response.
Agreed. It's trying to soften up the discriminatory and vicious nature of dogs toward a lot of guys to make it seem more innocent than it actually is. Just like a woman that reacts harshly and violently to a man is usually first pitied and posited to be suffering and justifications given about how "it's not her fault, she's mentally ill!" rather than being held in contempt like a man reacting that way would.
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It's interesting that rodents, which are small but disease vectors, attack when they sense weakness (foids), whereas dogs attack when they sense threat (strength).
It's a common saying that dogs can sense fear too though and I believe that. But imo dogs are a lot like low inhib normies looking to pick a fight. You look at that them in the eyes even once by mistake when looking around at your surroundings and they take it as a challenge and start barking in a hostile way at you or trying to charge you and sniff you out.
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I've noticed a disparity in this aggressiveness between bitches and male dogs as well (I've owned both).
When a threat is sensed, the bitch will often hide behind the male dog, which will make a great show of barking and aggressiveness.
This animal model is mirrored in human females, who never put their lives in danger under any circumstance and would gladly sacrifice a male to not get injured, let alone survive.
No wonder humans can relate so much to dogs jfl waste matter @waste matter
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Women like dogs because they use them as sex toys, as well as to sic them on unattractive men. Women like cats because they kill mice, who are natural enemies of women. This is why musophobia is so much more common among foids than men.
Also women like dogs because they are less cruel toward attractive males than "creepy" somehow angry and weird ugly males. And what do you know a lot of those "creepy" and angry, weird males end up being ethnic. So really one of the reasons why women like dogs is just like the reason why white nationalists like dogs: they keep ethnic men away.
 
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Agreed. It's trying to soften up the discriminatory and vicious nature of dogs toward a lot of guys to make it seem more innocent than it actually is. Just like a woman that reacts harshly and violently to a man is usually first pitied and posited to be suffering and justifications given about how "it's not her fault, she's mentally ill!" rather than being held in contempt like a man reacting that way would.

It's a common saying that dogs can sense fear too though and I believe that. But imo dogs are a lot like low inhib normies looking to pick a fight. You look at that them in the eyes even once by mistake when looking around at your surroundings and they take it as a challenge and start barking in a hostile way at you or trying to charge you and sniff you out.

No wonder humans can relate so much to dogs jfl waste matter @waste matter

Also women like dogs because they are less cruel toward attractive males than "creepy" somehow angry and weird ugly males. And what do you know a lot of those "creepy" and angry, weird males end up being ethnic. So really it's just like for the reason why white nationalists like dogs: they keep ethnic men away.
Good point about the white nationalists training dogs to recognize race. Police dogs are probably trained to attack blacks as well, for good reason.

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It's ridiculous how even animals have evolved to discriminate against ugly males, as if evolution itself supports gynocracy.
To know that animals understand human standards of beauty and are more aggressive towards ones that don't pass a certain threshold of attractiveness is disheartening to say the least.
I can't believe there are still people on this forum that support "animals rights."
As has been said many times before on this forum, they call it "mother nature" for a reason.
 
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epillepsy said:
Good point about the white nationalists training dogs to recognize race. Police dogs are probably trained to attack blacks as well, for good reason.

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Thanks I appreciate you understanding this point which, if you were to explain to the average normie, they would accuse you of being psychopathic, paranoid and inhumane.

Imo brown skinned ethnic males lose out again in how dogs hostile behavior toward dark skinned males is focused around dog's reaction to black males. Why this is bad? Because for most normies out of sight is out of mind as far as arguments go. They hear nothing in the culture about dogs attacking brown males specifically because they are brown and so only recognize dog's violence against brown males. It's a lot like how racism against black males is acknowledged but racism against brown males is sweeped under the rug unless they are a favored minority by the media like latinos are RREEEEEEEEE @RREEEEEEEEE
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It's ridiculous how even animals have evolved to discriminate against ugly males, as if evolution itself supports gynocracy.
To know that animals understand human standards of beauty and are more aggressive towards ones that don't pass a certain threshold of attractiveness is disheartening to say the least.
I can't believe there are still people on this forum that support "animals rights."
Sometimes the love for animals is so strong it can even override gynocentrism temporarily tbh
Look at VI ASMR's channel for evidence of this. Goes without saying though that if VI ASMR was a male they would get a far harsher and more arguably murderous reaction to them eating cooked cats and dog and animal heads.

Imo there's a good reason to care about animal right's in the sense that they have as much right to existence as humans do and they didn't ask to be born to suffer. I get the opposition to killing animals for fun like in hunting for recreation and not food. But the fetishizing of animals above humans is pretty disturbing in many ways and even more so when people that aren't as eager to follow this fetishization are portrayed as the mentally ill psychopathic ones.

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As has been said many times before on this forum, they call it "mother nature" for a reason.
Yup even most people will tell you life's a bitch. "Mother nature" is an embodiment of the pure IDGAF mindset women have toward anything that doesn't benefit them and them having no problem with using and throwing away others as they see fit if they think it will benefit them or their besties (society and survival of the species at large.)
 
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Thanks I appreciate you understanding this point which, if you were to explain to the average normie, they would accuse you of being psychopathic, paranoid and inhumane.

Imo brown skinned ethnic males lose out again in how dogs hostile behavior toward dark skinned males is focused around dog's reaction to black males. Why this is bad? Because for most normies out of sight is out of mind as far as arguments go. They hear nothing in the culture about dogs attacking brown males specifically because they are brown and so only recognize dog's violence against brown males. It's a lot like how racism against black males is acknowledged but racism against brown males is sweeped under the rug unless they are a favored minority by the media like latinos are RREEEEEEEEE @RREEEEEEEEE
Yep, curries lose out once again. When police train dogs to recognize black men as threats (which is justified, no matter what else I feel about black people), the dogs are not intelligent enough to take facial physiognomy into account. As a shorthand, the dogs probably take dark skin to equal a threat. So a curry is as bad as a black to them. Not to mention that curries are often mistaken for sandcels, who are known to be terrorists. Dogs are known to sniff out middle easterns (who have a shade of skin somewhat lighter than curries but not as dark as blacks) for bombs and other chemical devices. Curries are caught in the middle, mistaken by dogs to be both black and middle-eastern and receive the brunt of the damage, though they are not as criminal as either race.

Sometimes the love for animals is so strong it can even override gynocentrism temporarily tbh
Look at VI ASMR's channel for evidence of this. Goes without saying though that if VI ASMR was a male they would get a far harsher and more arguably murderous reaction to them eating cooked cats and dog and animal heads.

Imo there's a good reason to care about animal right's in the sense that they have as much right to existence as humans do and they didn't ask to be born to suffer. I get the opposition to killing animals for fun like in hunting for recreation and not food. But the fetishizing of animals above humans is pretty disturbing in many ways and even more so when people that aren't as eager to follow this fetishization are portrayed as the mentally ill psychopathic ones.


Yup even most people will tell you life's a bitch. "Mother nature" is an embodiment of the pure IDGAF mindset women have toward anything that doesn't benefit them and them having no problem with using and throwing away others as they see fit if they think it will benefit them or their besties (society and survival of the species at large.)
Their extreme lack of cognition prevents animals from being able to suffer to the same degree as human males.
That said, there are environmental reasons to keep animals around, as well as the interest of observing animals in zoos and their behavior in wildfire for entertainment purposes, as well as meat, medical experimentation, and appeasing cucks who think animals are human beings with souls.
 
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Yep, curries lose out once again. When police train dogs to recognize black men as threats (which is justified, no matter what else I feel about black people), the dogs are not intelligent enough to take facial physiognomy into account. As a shorthand, the dogs probably take dark skin to equal threat. So a curry is as bad as a black to them. Not to mention that curries are often mistaken for sandcels, who are known to be terrorists. Dogs are known to sniff about middle easterns (who have a shade of skin somewhat lighter than curries but not as dark as blacks) for bombs and other chemical devices. Curries are caught in the middle, mistaken by dogs to be both black and middle-eastern and receive the brunt of the damage, though they are not as criminal as either race.
South Asian males are forever overshadowed by the concerns of black and then Middle Eastern males (as seen with the concern about islamaphobia but constant attacks against Hindu Indian male "extremists" on the subcontinent ReconElement @ReconElement ). For better or worse it's always been this way and nothing really could be done to change this. But now the rise of feminism and SJWs is renewing attacks against South Asian males and in addition to portraying them as undesirable is casting them as lame, patriarchal oppressors that need to be overthrown in a world where your attractiveness to women and "coolness" factor is more relevant than ever to your quality of life and opportunities available to you. It really is the worst convergence of trends.
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Their extreme lack of cognition prevents animals from being able to suffer to the same degree as human males.
I agree it's not too the same level but there's plenty of research that suggests animal's still experience pain similar to humans. Pain is after all a biological response to negative stimuli or situations that notify an organism of harm.

There's even recent research that insects are capable of showing something akin to fear ngl

The excess focus on pain animals experience over the pain the average human male faces and the hypocrisy of SJWs and liberals claiming to be humanitarian and subscribing to a humanist belief system while exercising this double standard has always stuck out to me imo.
Angry Harry (a notable MRA writer that brought the point home about how he doesn't know you, but how if your wife cut your penis off the world world would laugh at you and assume you were guilty and deserved it http://www.angryharry.com/) once famously proclaimed "There's so much talk about saving the whales. What about saving the males?"

Growing up you realize that women privilege non human animals over most human males by how intimate and cuddling the average woman is willing to be with a non human animal, especially "cute" looking animals like cats and dogs.
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That said, there are environmental reasons to keep animals around, as well as the interest of observing animals in zoos and their behavior in wildfire for entertainment purposes, as well as meat, medical experimentation, and appeasing cucks who think animals are human beings with souls.
Yeah animals like many other organisms are definitely an important part of ecosystems and without which the world would not function as efficiently or be as interesting of a place.
 
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Thanks I appreciate you understanding this point which, if you were to explain to the average normie, they would accuse you of being psychopathic, paranoid and inhumane.

Imo brown skinned ethnic males lose out again in how dogs hostile behavior toward dark skinned males is focused around dog's reaction to black males. Why this is bad? Because for most normies out of sight is out of mind as far as arguments go. They hear nothing in the culture about dogs attacking brown males specifically because they are brown and so only recognize dog's violence against brown males. It's a lot like how racism against black males is acknowledged but racism against brown males is sweeped under the rug unless they are a favored minority by the media like latinos are RREEEEEEEEE @RREEEEEEEEE

Sometimes the love for animals is so strong it can even override gynocentrism temporarily tbh
Look at VI ASMR's channel for evidence of this. Goes without saying though that if VI ASMR was a male they would get a far harsher and more arguably murderous reaction to them eating cooked cats and dog and animal heads.

Imo there's a good reason to care about animal right's in the sense that they have as much right to existence as humans do and they didn't ask to be born to suffer. I get the opposition to killing animals for fun like in hunting for recreation and not food. But the fetishizing of animals above humans is pretty disturbing in many ways and even more so when people that aren't as eager to follow this fetishization are portrayed as the mentally ill psychopathic ones.


Yup even most people will tell you life's a bitch. "Mother nature" is an embodiment of the pure IDGAF mindset women have toward anything that doesn't benefit them and them having no problem with using and throwing away others as they see fit if they think it will benefit them or their besties (society and survival of the species at large.)
You are right, (white) society doesn't care about brown people but they do care about black people. I understand that black people have suffered for centuries but that doesn't change the fact that brown people are the most hated, most discriminated right now. In fact, I would say that brown people are facing worse than what black people faced. They bomb our countries, commit war crimes, kill kids, the elderly, and they get away with it. So fuck white SJWs and other BLM supporters.
 
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You are right, (white) society doesn't care about brown people but they do care about black people. I understand that black people have suffered for centuries but that doesn't change the fact that brown people are the most hated, most discriminated right now. In fact, I would say that brown people are facing worse than what black people faced. They bomb our countries, commit war crimes, kill kids, the elderly, and they get away with it. So fuck white SJWs and other BLM supporters.
Whites don't actually care about blacks either tbh, I wouldn't envy them too much. In fact it is probably more brutal seeing the gap between fiction and reality if you are black, I am glad browns are not featured on film and media that much (except maybe those annoying nerd characters)
 
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Whites don't actually care about blacks either tbh, I wouldn't envy them too much. In fact it is probably more brutal seeing the gap between fiction and reality if you are black, I am glad browns are not featured on film and media that much (except maybe those annoying nerd characters)
Yeah, we don't get any representation in movies or television shows, so the rare times we do get it, I end up watching it. Ever watched The Night Of? It is an HBO series consisting of 8 episodes. Highly recommended. And either way, now there's a lot of black SMV due to white SJWs (and ethnic SJWS). We do not enjoy this privilege. Maybe hundreds years from now. But for now we are demonized (unless you are the right kind of brown, i.e. hindu, sikh, latino).
 
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Yeah, we don't get any representation in movies or television shows, so the rare times we do get it, I end up watching it. Ever watched The Night Of? It is an HBO series consisting of 8 episodes. Highly recommended. And either way, now there's a lot of black SMV due to white SJWs (and ethnic SJWS). We do not enjoy this privilege. Maybe hundreds years from now. But for now we are demonized (unless you are the right kind of brown, i.e. hindu, sikh, latino).
I will check that show out, Riz Ahmed is getting new gigs often these days, I saw an advert for a show featuring him on YouTube recently, the plot involves him losing his hearing after a concert where he is the drummer or something.

In the end though, these thinf may increase curry SMV slightly, but they are still copes.
 
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I will check that show out, Riz Ahmed is getting new gigs often these days, I saw an advert for a show featuring him on YouTube recently, the plot involves him losing his hearing after a concert where he is the drummer or something.

In the end though, these thinf may increase curry SMV slightly, but they are still copes.
So you know him? Yeah, that's the dude. His grandparents moved from India to Pakistan after the Partition. Ahhh, I know what movie you are talking about. He got his hair bleached there, right? I downloaded it, but I haven't watched it. I believe it's called The Sound of Metal. Let me check, though........................... Ok, I was close. It's just called Sound of Metal. And, you're actually right, though. These things do increase curry SMV. Rice SMV only increased so much because of kpop. Even curry SMV could increase a lot through sapop (South Asian pop). Right now, all we have is Bollywood but it's not "cool" like hip-hop (for black SMV) and k-pop (for yellow SMV) are.
 
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Yeah, Sound of Metal is the name, he has his hair dyes platinum blond.

There are too many other negative stereotypes associated with India (and by extension other South Asian countries as well) for this sort of stuff to offset it IMO, maybe in the next generation or two we could see things change as South Asia becomes more developed and more people from there start learning to look after themselves more, by going to the gym and eating right (it may seem like a cope, but average curry SMV could go up 1 or 2 points if more of us started watching our weight, most middle-class Indians I knew had gotten quite fat.

In the end though, I think our destiny lies with our own peoples and not with trying to get Euros to like us. So I wouldn't mind if pop culture starts featuring curries more in dignified roles, but at the same time I don't care if they don't.
 
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Yeah, Sound of Metal is the name, he has his hair dyes platinum blond.

There are too many other negative stereotypes associated with India (and by extension other South Asian countries as well) for this sort of stuff to offset it IMO, maybe in the next generation or two we could see things change as South Asia becomes more developed and more people from there start learning to look after themselves more, by going to the gym and eating right (it may seem like a cope, but average curry SMV could go up 1 or 2 points if more of us started watching our weight, most middle-class Indians I knew had gotten quite fat.

In the end though, I think our destiny lies with our own peoples and not with trying to get Euros to like us. So I wouldn't mind if pop culture starts featuring curries more in dignified roles, but at the same time I don't care if they don't.
You didn't quote me, and if you did, I wouldn't have been notified because it'd be after an edit. But I saw you last posted ITT so I thought it may be directed at me (and it was). That's true, brown SMV is extremely low not only because of India (rape failo) but also because of Pakistan (terrorism failo). I personally don't think that taking care of ourselves will increase brown SMV, it has to be from something, like music or a television show or a movie. Why? Because society is easily brainwashed into liking certain groups of men (usually it's done through the music industry). I think it'd be good for us if there were more brown entertainers in good roles but it most likely wouldn't affect us, especially not me because I'm ugly, but others may have a better shot. But I don't think it's going to happen to us.
 
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You didn't quote me, and if you did, I wouldn't have been notified because it'd be after an edit. But I saw you last posted ITT so I thought it may be directed at me (and it was). That's true, brown SMV is extremely low not only because of India (rape failo) but also because of Pakistan (terrorism failo). I personally don't think that taking care of ourselves will increase brown SMV, it has to be from something, like music or a television show or a movie. Why? Because society is easily brainwashed into liking certain groups of men (usually it's done through the music industry). I think it'd be good for us if there were more brown entertainers in good roles but it most likely wouldn't affect us, especially not me because I'm ugly, but others may have a better shot. But I don't think it's going to happen to us.
Yeah, sorry for that, I swear I had quoted you.

I think a big problem in curries is this gora worship syndrome, the goras can smell it from a mile away and then start treating us like shit (this syndrome is particularly bad in Hindus and Sikhs, at least Muslims of the subcontinent can latch onto the anti-West struggle of the Islamic World).

I have been going for long walks to lose weight and have definitely noticed my face looking better, a lot of curries suffer from bloated faces. So I think there is room for improvement,

More representation in positive media role, as opposed to tech nerds, terrorists etc would go a long way into undoing the damage caused by other failos though, I agree.

Here is another curry actor, he was in Silicon Valley, he looks very curry, seems like Sindhis have this very Indian phenotype

 
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VindalooCell said:
Yeah, sorry for that, I swear I had quoted you.

I think a big problem in curries is this gora worship syndrome, the goras can smell it from a mile away and then start treating us like shit (this syndrome is particularly bad in Hindus and Sikhs, at least Muslims of the subcontinent can latch onto the anti-West struggle of the Islamic World).

I have been going for long walks to lose weight and have definitely noticed my face looking better, a lot of curries suffer from bloated faces. So I think there is room for improvement,

More representation in positive media role, as opposed to tech nerds, terrorists etc would go a long way into undoing the damage caused by other failos though, I agree.

Here is another curry actor, he was in Silicon Valley, he looks very curry, seems like Sindhis have this very Indian phenotype

Don't worry, I got you. I agree, the white worship is definitely problematic in our societies. It's not just Hindus or Sikhs that do it but Islamic people do it as well and it's pathetic to say the least. It's good that you're improving yourself and that it's positively affecting your looks. Ahh.. yes, I know about Kumail Nanjiani. I think, however, out of all brown actors that Dev Patel is the most successful. He even was voted Sexiest Man of the Year, I don't know what year that was, though. But there's definitely women that like him and I have definitely seen dudes that look like him irl so their overall SMV has been boosted, too. And yes, Sindhis are an Indic ethnic group, much like (Pakistani) Punjabis so we look similar to each other (Pakistani Indic peoples and Indian peoples). The only Pakistanis that don't have Indic phenotypes are the Iranic ethnic groups and some others but they get dwarfed by the Indic population.
 

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