Serious Can you tell me why in your opinion patriarchy is a good “solution” to inceldom?

[Salustio]

I watched the YT video with brendio and gigacel, they did a good job overall. But both agreed on the point that patriarchy would be a great “solution” and monogamy should be enforced. Ok, that’s a popular opinion in here, and I can imagine why.

But I was wondering why so many people want to go back to their romanticized and fictionalized view of the past and take patriarchy as a good example of a functioning society.

Apart from the fact that no-one is explaining HOW is possible to switch back to patriarchy, let’s forget this point for a moment and focus on why this fictionalized utopian patriarchal society would be great for incels and why every incel should embrace it.

For example, I hate patriarchy, I hate the way men were treated in patriarchal societies. And I don’t want to work while a stupid foid just stay at home nurturing babies and doing light stuff.

Another thing: A lot of people are talking about “nature”, “the natural way human beings are made”, “the natural role of men and women”... Sounds to me these people are knowledgeable about the true nature of the human being. So please explain to me what is supposed to be my “natural role” as a man.

Genes may influence human beings, but so, too, do epigenetic changes. These modifications alter which genes get turned on, and are both heritable and easily influenced by the environment. The environment that shapes human behavior can be anything from the chemicals a fetus is exposed to in the womb to the block a person grew up on to the type of food they ate as a child, and social engineering. All these factors interact in a messy, unpredictable way. So why those people presenting “easy solutions” to complex problems are so certain and trustful that their way of looking at “human nature” is the right one?

And also, why for those “geniuses” the patriarchy should be embraced as a solution?

 

[PersonalityChad]

@StormlitAqua

 

[Henry de Montherlant]

Patriarchy is not a solution. There's no solution.

 

[Modus Coperandi]

There's no solution.

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[Deleted member 7448]

Patriarchy is a meme, it never existed. Women always controlled men, since society has always put cunt on a pedestal. Sure, the men made the money and held the positions of power, but the women at home, who did nothing but bitch and moan all day were the ones who reaped the rewards.

 

[Salustio]

Patriarchy is a meme, it never existed. Women always controlled men, since society has always put cunt on a pedestal. Sure, the men made the money and held the positions of power, but the women at home, who did nothing but bitch and moan all day were the ones who reaped the rewards.

Of course it is a meme.

I was ironic. I know that the way feminists are representing “patriarchy” is a way to justify their narrative.

 

[Deleted member 1252]

Well, “patriarchy” can mean many things. In the traditional conservative sense, it means men are in control and women cannot hold positions of power. This means that the majority of men - who are sub8 - will come to the logical conclusion that they need to fairly distribute pussy among the male population, otherwise chad will get it all. The only solution to this is strict, enforced monogamy via marriage, making adultery and sex outwith marriage illegal, and removing a foids right to choose who she marries. This way all men are given their looksmatch for life.

 

[Smallondick]

Patriarchy is a meme, it never existed. Women always controlled men, since society has always put cunt on a pedestal. Sure, the men made the money and held the positions of power, but the women at home, who did nothing but bitch and moan all day were the ones who reaped the rewards.

Exact!

 

[ImpureIncel]

Taking women's rights away, ie, voting, all government programs and gender quotas made to benefit them, birth control, ect. And slut and e-whore shaming would push more women out of the workforce and off the cock carousel and their phones and force them to pair with their looks match. It would also greatly benefit society as a whole.

 

[Inceldo]

Women would need men to provide for them. Hence sex.

 

[Red Shambhala]

For example, I hate patriarchy, I hate the way men were treated in patriarchal societies. And I don’t want to work while a stupid foid just stay at home nurturing babies and doing light stuff.

Bingo. Every society, in which tradcucks have oppressed women, low-status men were oppressed even more harshly. Which is still the case today, Saudi-Arabia, for instance, is still full of old-fashioned slave labor.

 

[Guest2]

There is no solution.

 

[r9kcel]

I wouldn't hate working for a loyal woman that loved me truly. But that's the problem. It's fiction, there is no woman which would love us loyally, so it would be no different than betabux

 

[StormlitAqua]

You're missing the point of patriarchy. Men are supposed to "have it harder" than women... that is how it's supposed to work.

Patriarchy is the holy order of God. Men working hard, dying for their family and their job, that is the way men have been made. Women are literally made to have children, raise them, and keep men company, as described in the first three chapters of Genesis. When people try to stray away from this, they stray away from the ideal given by God, leading into sin and death (for the wages of sin IS death!). It's understandable that we do this as we are all victims of original sin, but we know what the ideal is and should strive and try to keep it.

Hating being a man is a patriarchy is you being a soyboy numale. Men have it harder. Always have, always will. Even in the greatest days, we had it harder. That's how it is. Ball up. This terrible incel cope that good looking men don't suffer is incredibly small minded.

I do agree that we tend to slightly idealize the patriarchal societies of old America, but it's no secret that it was still better for men. My salary would be doubled ( because I would be expected to raise my entire family with just my salary), I would not go home to loneliness, my house would be clean, my wife and kids would give me great joy with Christian love. Would I work more? Sure. Would I be in worse health? Sure. Would I suffer due to not having internet, modern pleasures, etc.? Of course! But nothing replaces the joy of being a patriarchal father, which is God's call for man.

 

[Michael15651]

Patriarchy is not a solution. There's no solution.

 

[Salustio]

When people try to stray away from this, they stray away from the ideal given by God

And what if someone believe God said other things or he don't believe in God at all?

How, for example, patriarchy can be good for un-religious people?

And if someone has different belief systems?

For example, if an incel is motivated to work hard and moneymax because he want to hire escorts, and he is not motivated by the goal of becoming a betabux?

Do you think every incel want to be a betabux? Well, don’t get me wrong, I’m not questioning other people’s copes and goals in life, I’m just saying that everyone is motivated to achieve his own goals. Maybe patriarchy would be good for the majority of incels, but I see a lot of them who are very critical towards betabuxers.

 

[Cuyen]

Patriarchy is not a solution. There's no solution.