If you're not going to (or can't) get with women you might aswell do so on your own terms. Cause let's be honest they're not even going to acknowledge you if you're ugly or average. And after their prime years nobody wants leftovers.
Men going their own way, more like men sent their own way
u can be true mgtow only if u had choice between pussy and denying it for the sake of ur own authority
MGTOW, men going their own way. That means they don't want women or sex in their lives at all, while incels crave it.
I'm sure they want it, they've just decided it's not worth the effort or risks of false rape accusation, having half your assets stolen in divorce, etc. The negatives outweigh the benefits (for MGTOWs).Kointo said:
Rahmawn said:
Yes, that may be true. Sex to them isn't worth all the hassle of a femoid.
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theres absolutely no difference and to think otherwise is cope. Most people acknowledge sex and relationships as a healthy part of life and have no aversion to it. If your not getting any your not getting any. and if u are constantly ruminating over that fact and letting if affect your mental health and day to day life you are fucked.
Rahmawn said:
Yes you can be incel and go your own way. In fact, incels can only go their own way, or the way of the rope.
Kointo said:
This is not what MGTOW means at all. MGTOW is simply a means to protect yourself as a man and make your life the best possible given the circumstances. It's a reaction to out of control gynocentrism and feminism.
MGTOW men do not marry or cohabitate with women. Because in most Western countries the legal system is gynocentric and women can use the state to steal your wealth, take your kids and basically destroy your life, if you marry them or even just live together.
MGTOW men may still have sexual or romantic relationships with women, provided there are minimal risks to doing so. But with the #MeToo movement and other false accusations, a lot of guys are going monk mode (avoiding women entirely).
wishiwasbigger said:
But sex is life. To carry on our genes is the only reason we exist. Everything else is cope or a need of survival.
Tricking yourself into thinking there's more to life will probably make you happy, but its not the truth.
That is the blackpill. Realizing and accepting the harsh truth.
BlackPillDealer said:
Yeah I didn't and still don't know much about MGTOW. Now I know more though.
Most MGTOW would betray the movement if they got a sniff of pussy.
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there is no one true answer to life, you have just created on for yourself. we are all here in an aimless world and decide what we want for ourselves. you have just decided you really want sex because thats what you are missing out on. people who get sex easily dont obsess over it and find other things to give their life meaning and happiness. Its all about mental perspective and if ur happy you are happy, its stupid to say that ones happiness is wrong because happiness is happiness. A lot of people just choose to only focus on the negative. You can eventually get sex probably tbh, i really doubt the majority of people here are gonna stay incel virgins, and what you do in the meantime is up to youKointo said:
Its_OVER said:
I think you are projecting. Also it's not a movement.
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Normie=Blue Pill
Redditor= Blue Pill + Cope
MGTOW=Red Pill + Cope
Incel=Black Pill + Cope
Mass shooter Taliban=Black Pill
Redditor= Blue Pill + Cope
MGTOW=Red Pill + Cope
Incel=Black Pill + Cope
Mass shooter Taliban=Black Pill
Homosapicuckus said:
Redpill is trying to overcome the system, while MGTOW hates and ignores the system.
I'd say Lookism.net is redpill and cope.
BlackPillDealer said:
Many MGTOW are incel in denial going on about how happy they are without women. At least we incels are honest with ourselves.
Not if you don't want to be destroyed by the only good argument against the MGTOW; The Sour Grapes argument
If you can get laid, but choose to go MGTOW, you are volcel.
If you can't, then MGTOW is probably cope.
If you can't, then MGTOW is probably cope.
Its_OVER said:
This "all MGTOW are incel in denial" is a shit meme mostly used by normans and IncelTears. Some men can get pussy but don't want it so badly that they are willing to go through some amount of effort, and risk going to jail or losing half of their wealth to get it.
You're basically saying that if you're not a thirsty betacuck willing to do anything and take any risks for a whiff of pussy, you are probably incel in denial. This is a bluepill cuck mindset.
Volcels like me are MGTOW I suppose. I can fuck women points below me, but choose not to. I've been asked out by women, but they're ugly as fuck, 2s and 3s. The fact that they thought they could ask me out means I'm only a few points above them in reality. I place myself at 6 at best.
I know people here think it's cope, but I'm actually really fucking disgusted by women so much after all of the blackpills, that short of a perfect ten telling me she just wants me to fuck her in a toilet like a dog while I flush her head in the bowl, I'd rather just be alone.
Porn gets it done for me. I know if I cut out the porn, I'd probably be more hungry and want to try for a looksmatch, but I think that's futile today, not just in the sense of obtaining intimacy, but also retaining (or even obtaining for a second) her loyalty. The blackpills spare no illusions.
I know people here think it's cope, but I'm actually really fucking disgusted by women so much after all of the blackpills, that short of a perfect ten telling me she just wants me to fuck her in a toilet like a dog while I flush her head in the bowl, I'd rather just be alone.
Porn gets it done for me. I know if I cut out the porn, I'd probably be more hungry and want to try for a looksmatch, but I think that's futile today, not just in the sense of obtaining intimacy, but also retaining (or even obtaining for a second) her loyalty. The blackpills spare no illusions.
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Fuck MGTOW. There are more good looking guys who are in that group than there are good looking guys who are incel. If you're MGTOW you choose not to surround yourself with women for (insert reason here), or refuse to marry them or see them more as just a lay. A lot of MGTOW don't marry, but that doesn't mean they can't get pussy. WE CAN'T FUCKING GET ANYTHING AS INCELS.
BlackPillDealer said:
I symathize with the post, but please purge your new avi. Its even more irritating than the bug.
wishiwasbigger said:
I haven't made sex my answer to life, its the only reason we're here. Also its not stupid to say one's happiness is wrong, it's just brutal honesty. Its natural for humans to find other things to keep them occupied and happy to keep them from offing themselves.
They ignore the reason they were born, and focus on other nonsense instead of the main nonsense.
A Good Friend said:
The sour grapes argument only applies for incels who go MGTOW. That said, it doesn't invalidate their argument for going their own way.
Let's just look at the facts:
- Incels are ugly or average looking low status males, often autistic or with some mental issues
- Incels probably can't pump and dump even after looksmaxxing, their best chance is through cucked betabux relationships
- On average, at best they can get a used up landwhale or post-wall single mom roastie in the current dating market
- These women are usually emotionally and mentally damaged
- These women are often high maintenance; healthcare costs, child costs, probably credit card or student debt
- These women will probably be mentally and possibly physically abusive
- These women will probably cheat on you, almost 99% probability given enough time
- There is a risk for divorce rape (even if just cohabiting), spermjacking, Chad cucking, false accusations and other means by which they can extract money from you through force by using the big daddy government
- Women love men like men love cars, and you're a fucking 2nd hand beater -- basically women can't love you the way you want them to, biologically it's impossible
Given all these facts, there is no other RATIONAL option than going your own way and just enjoying life the best you can without relationships with women. Of course you can try to get expensive and risky plastic surgery, but every year the female standards are getting higher, the game is getting constantly harder. It's not worth it unless you are 1 or 2 surgeries away from 7-8/10. Even then you'll have to deal with a lot of BS.
BlackPillDealer said:
Yeah, that was my point.
"Sour grapes is the action of making something seem less important after finding out they can't have it."A Good Friend said:
In the case of incels, having female companionship is actually less important/desirable regardless of whether they can or cannot have it. See my previous post.
BlackPillDealer said:
I see your point. To be fair, I'm used to "volcels" (as if that were a real thing)
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