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He doesn't do literally nothing. He doesn't have a clinic or a hospital, what am I supposed to do? I can't automatically just get his job
To make GOOD money, yes. There are too many doctors and it drives down salaries. Once I graduate I will earn decently but not enough to live like a rich person
The fact everyone needs fertility treatment now instead of just, well, fucking, is concerning. Why does no one seem to care about this medical anomaly?
I had a teacher in highschool who utilised IVF to conceive with her husband. Both of them were in their late 30s and knew of the risks associated with IVF but they carried through with it because a natural conception at that age also comes with its own set of risks. And I got the impression they assuaged themselves that even if IVF isn't optimal, it's still better than the alternative. Of course, the solution would be to have babies in your prime years of adulthood but in these present day socioeconomic circumstances, it's not always plausible for couples to be financially secure enough to make that decision and casual sex/hookup culture further encourages them to delay parenthood.
Before I start this thread, I would like to open with this quote:
Odes, III, Horace
This is quite open to various interpretations: However, I personally see it in the light of what we now know as dysgenics, which is what I wish to discern more about here. I have touched upon this topic various times, since our society is clearly dysgenic; contributing to the rise in Inceldom.
In this thread, I will cover a topic -which I've never seen discussed on here at all- which also has affected me personally.
I have alluded to this a few times here, but my birth was not a natural one: It required for my parents to utilize modern medicine, in order for me to be born.
As such, I will touch upon this topic, and the potential contributions it has to the Incel issue.
To begin with, findings show that a correlation does exist between that of infertility, as well as ASD:
In vitro fertilization (IVF) is a technique of assisted reproduction whereby a zygote is produced from the fertilization of sperm and oocytes outside the woman’s body, and allowed to proceed in its development under carefully controlled conditions, until it becomes an embryo.
www.news-medical.net
It seems that this kind of treatment is associated with premature birth, which many here already know is an issue, and have attributed their inceldom(at least in part)towards it: Not to mention, the studies clearly indicate an increase in psychological issues, physical disabilities, etc.
Whilst touching on physical defects, it also was found that IVF stunts growth:
The height on both lines of my family was stunted, due to some of my tall male ancestors(6'0-6'2)marrying & reproducing with foidlets; this is why we need eugenics.
This study did state that whilst IVF children are more likely to be born with a lower birth-weight & premature(probably why I'm a skinnycel), it does make a claim that the overall amounts will be "adjusted" once family conditions are accounted for:
A study finds that adverse birth outcomes in children conceived through medically assisted reproduction)—including techniques such as IVF treatment, artificial insemination, and fertility-enhancing drugs—are unlikely due to treatment.
healthcare.utah.edu
In a way, they are once again, reaffirming our point: Yes, later life changes may assist in development, but genetics play a fundamental role as well.
Furthermore, it also enhances the risk of cardiovascular disease:
This cohort study assesses the association between use of assisted reproductive technologies and risk of cardiovascular disease among parous women.
jamanetwork.com
My family has a history of this, so thanks guys.
Now to touch upon this further, I will explain my schizo beliefs on nature, religion, etc: I believe we all have souls that should have been born in other bodies, but due to some sort of cosmic fate, we were fated to what we all are. However, due to my birth being unnatural, I have questioned if I myself am a "natural soul" if that makes sense. Furthermore, I feel as if this proves I was destined to fail from the moment of my birth: I was not natural, I do not exist within the laws of nature which I adhere towards as a Blackpiller, Agnostic, & National Socialist.
Furthermore, this shows just how dysgenic our society is progressing, and how Inceldom will continue to rise: Not just due to Hypergamy, but the consequences of it.
@based_meme@WorthlessSlavicShit@anandkonda@LeFrenchCel@Uggo Mongo@TBIcel@Pancakecel@RegularManlet@To koniec@Fatass3000@Ron.Belgrade@Grim_Reaper@VictimofBpillReaper@CopingForBrutality@Fire.@Chudpreet@My Name Jeff@Seahorsecel@ElTruecel@Pajeetsingh@RealSchizo@wereq@SupremeSaint@Aquiline
my elder brothers are 5-6 years older and younger ones are 6-7 years younger than me,ofcourse that makes me sound like a fucking mistake. Since I was born in a muslim family,they dont do abortions nd all so yea they had me and when they had me, I was alienated for life now they question why am I like this,lol.
@DarkStar I was also born premature and underweight to my foidlet femcel mom. I am not a IVF baby but I do have lots of mental health issues. Do you think this is because our mothers were not built for pregnancy?
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