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DarkStarDown

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Before I start this thread, I would like to open with this quote:
Our grandfathers sired feeble children; theirs
Were weaker still — ourselves; and now our curse
Must be to breed even more degenerate heirs.
Odes, III, Horace


This is quite open to various interpretations: However, I personally see it in the light of what we now know as dysgenics, which is what I wish to discern more about here. I have touched upon this topic various times, since our society is clearly dysgenic; contributing to the rise in Inceldom.

In this thread, I will cover a topic -which I've never seen discussed on here at all- which also has affected me personally.

I have alluded to this a few times here, but my birth was not a natural one: It required for my parents to utilize modern medicine, in order for me to be born.

As such, I will touch upon this topic, and the potential contributions it has to the Incel issue.

To begin with, findings show that a correlation does exist between that of infertility, as well as ASD:

In this cohort study of 1.3 million children from Ontario, Canada, the incidence rate (per 1000 person-years) of ASD was 1.9 among children in the unassisted conception group, 2.5 in the subfertility group, and 2.7 after fertility treatment.

However, let's take a look at the treatment itself:
Even singletons born after IVF tend to be at risk for preterm birth. They also have worse outcomes before, during, and after birth, and are more likely to require hospitalization.

Cerebral palsy, psychological diseases, and developmental delays, are more common in these infants than in naturally conceived children.

It seems that this kind of treatment is associated with premature birth, which many here already know is an issue, and have attributed their inceldom(at least in part)towards it: Not to mention, the studies clearly indicate an increase in psychological issues, physical disabilities, etc.

Whilst touching on physical defects, it also was found that IVF stunts growth:

10% of singletons born after IVF and ET were growth restricted

The height on both lines of my family was stunted, due to some of my tall male ancestors(6'0-6'2)marrying & reproducing with foidlets; this is why we need eugenics.

This study did state that whilst IVF children are more likely to be born with a lower birth-weight & premature(probably why I'm a skinnycel), it does make a claim that the overall amounts will be "adjusted" once family conditions are accounted for:
Children conceived through medically assisted reproduction are more likely to be born premature and are at greater risk of being born small than naturally conceived babies, according to new research published today by the UCL Centre for Longitudinal Studies in collaboration with the University of Utah.

However, the study of almost 250,000 U.S. families finds that differences in birth weight and pregnancy term between medically assisted reproduction (MAR)—including techniques such as IVF treatment, artificial insemination, and fertility-enhancing drugs—and naturally conceived children become insignificant once family circumstances are considered.

"Rather than the infertility treatment itself, our new findings highlight the importance of parents’ underlying fertility problems and health conditions, and infants’ birth characteristics, such as their birth order and whether they are a twin, on birth weight and pregnancy term," explained co-author Alina Pelikh, PhD, a research fellow at the UCL Centre for Longitudinal Studies.

In a way, they are once again, reaffirming our point: Yes, later life changes may assist in development, but genetics play a fundamental role as well.

Furthermore, it also enhances the risk of cardiovascular disease:
Assisted reproductive technology itself might increase the risk of CVD

My family has a history of this, so thanks guys. :society:

Now to touch upon this further, I will explain my schizo beliefs on nature, religion, etc: I believe we all have souls that should have been born in other bodies, but due to some sort of cosmic fate, we were fated to what we all are. However, due to my birth being unnatural, I have questioned if I myself am a "natural soul" if that makes sense. Furthermore, I feel as if this proves I was destined to fail from the moment of my birth: I was not natural, I do not exist within the laws of nature which I adhere towards as a Blackpiller, Agnostic, & National Socialist. :blackpill:

Furthermore, this shows just how dysgenic our society is progressing, and how Inceldom will continue to rise: Not just due to Hypergamy, but the consequences of it.

@based_meme @WorthlessSlavicShit @anandkonda @LeFrenchCel @Uggo Mongo @TBIcel @Pancakecel @RegularManlet @To koniec @Fatass3000 @Ron.Belgrade @Grim_Reaper @VictimofBpillReaper @CopingForBrutality @Fire. @Chudpreet @My Name Jeff @Seahorsecel @ElTruecel @Pajeetsingh @RealSchizo @wereq @SupremeSaint @Aquiline
 
However, the study of almost 250,000 U.S. families finds that differences in birth weight and pregnancy term between medically assisted reproduction (MAR)—including techniques such as IVF treatment, artificial insemination, and fertility-enhancing drugs—and naturally conceived children become insignificant once family circumstances are considered.
Yeah family circumstances meaning having at least middle class semi-blackpilled parents that will do everything they can to help you cheat your subhuman genetics.
 
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I had a teacher in highschool who utilised IVF to conceive with her husband. Both of them were in their late 30s and knew of the risks associated with IVF but they carried through with it because a natural conception at that age also comes with its own set of risks. And I got the impression they assuaged themselves that even if IVF isn't optimal, it's still better than the alternative. Of course, the solution would be to have babies in your prime years of adulthood but in these present day socioeconomic circumstances, it's not always plausible for couples to be financially secure enough to make that decision and casual sex/hookup culture further encourages them to delay parenthood.
 
Thanks for sharing I did not know about this and I will look at IVF differently now, how tall are you?
 
However, due to my birth being unnatural, I have questioned if I myself am a "natural soul" if that makes sense. Furthermore, I feel as if this proves I was destined to fail from the moment of my birth: I was not natural, I do not exist within the laws of nature which I adhere towards as a Blackpiller, Agnostic, & National Socialist. :blackpill:
So was Jesus's birth. Maybe you too are a Prophet, meant to lead.

You will be a leader and head a revolution, I can feel it
 
So was Jesus's birth. Maybe you too are a Prophet, meant to lead.

You will be a leader and head a revolution, I can feel it
Really? I am thought well of & believed in :feelsYall:
 
I thought this is common knowledge. Ofc ivf kids are at risk of a myriad of problems.

Drs are fucking trash they can barely fix a broken bone correctly.

I cant imagine them growing a baby.
 
I thought this is common knowledge. Ofc ivf kids are at risk of a myriad of problems.

Drs are fucking trash they can barely fix a broken bone correctly.

I cant imagine them growing a baby.
Never seen it mentioned here, so i’d figure i’d touch on it, never met any other IVFcels.
 
Are you reading Horace?
 
I'm unironically a test tube baby.

God literally didn't mean me to be born. And now he is punishing me for defying his will by existing.
 
@Made in Heaven
 
It’s probably the fact the genetics were shit to begin with due to not being able to continue on their own. I think healthy people who did this despite being able to do it naturally would probably not have problems.
 
It’s probably the fact the genetics were shit to begin with due to not being able to continue on their own. I think healthy people who did this despite being able to do it naturally would probably not have problems.
Well, what I cited shows it does increase the chances: So whilst for some it’s not that bad, for others it can be.

In fact, people who have to use this to begin with probably have shit genetics.
 
Well, what I cited shows it does increase the chances: So whilst for some it’s not that bad, for others it can be.

In fact, people who have to use this to begin with probably have shit genetics.
Yeah, that was my point. If you need this, it’s already over.
 
I'm unironically a test tube baby.

God literally didn't mean me to be born. And now he is punishing me for defying his will by existing.
Same. I would be dead if not for modern technology, I was born FOUR months too early.

That said, IVF is a curse. It's humans thinking they can play god
 
Before I start this thread, I would like to open with this quote:

Odes, III, Horace


This is quite open to various interpretations: However, I personally see it in the light of what we now know as dysgenics, which is what I wish to discern more about here. I have touched upon this topic various times, since our society is clearly dysgenic; contributing to the rise in Inceldom.

In this thread, I will cover a topic -which I've never seen discussed on here at all- which also has affected me personally.

I have alluded to this a few times here, but my birth was not a natural one: It required for my parents to utilize modern medicine, in order for me to be born.

As such, I will touch upon this topic, and the potential contributions it has to the Incel issue.

To begin with, findings show that a correlation does exist between that of infertility, as well as ASD:



However, let's take a look at the treatment itself:


It seems that this kind of treatment is associated with premature birth, which many here already know is an issue, and have attributed their inceldom(at least in part)towards it: Not to mention, the studies clearly indicate an increase in psychological issues, physical disabilities, etc.

Whilst touching on physical defects, it also was found that IVF stunts growth:



The height on both lines of my family was stunted, due to some of my tall male ancestors(6'0-6'2)marrying & reproducing with foidlets; this is why we need eugenics.

This study did state that whilst IVF children are more likely to be born with a lower birth-weight & premature(probably why I'm a skinnycel), it does make a claim that the overall amounts will be "adjusted" once family conditions are accounted for:


In a way, they are once again, reaffirming our point: Yes, later life changes may assist in development, but genetics play a fundamental role as well.

Furthermore, it also enhances the risk of cardiovascular disease:


My family has a history of this, so thanks guys. :society:

Now to touch upon this further, I will explain my schizo beliefs on nature, religion, etc: I believe we all have souls that should have been born in other bodies, but due to some sort of cosmic fate, we were fated to what we all are. However, due to my birth being unnatural, I have questioned if I myself am a "natural soul" if that makes sense. Furthermore, I feel as if this proves I was destined to fail from the moment of my birth: I was not natural, I do not exist within the laws of nature which I adhere towards as a Blackpiller, Agnostic, & National Socialist. :blackpill:

Furthermore, this shows just how dysgenic our society is progressing, and how Inceldom will continue to rise: Not just due to Hypergamy, but the consequences of it.

@based_meme @WorthlessSlavicShit @anandkonda @LeFrenchCel @Uggo Mongo @TBIcel @Pancakecel @RegularManlet @To koniec @Fatass3000 @Ron.Belgrade @Grim_Reaper @VictimofBpillReaper @CopingForBrutality @Fire. @Chudpreet @My Name Jeff @Seahorsecel @ElTruecel @Pajeetsingh @RealSchizo @wereq @SupremeSaint @Aquiline
IVF is safe.

Old hags with rotten radioactive eggs, a lifetime of HFCS, seed oils, antidepressants etc. using IVF or not, is the cause of this dysgenic shit.

In a Marxist-Rodgerist society, all babies are conceived with teenage Stacy eggs, using IVF, genetically screened to prevent genetic defects, then implanted in comatose foids kept suspended in a propitious environment.

We shall conquer genetic denegeration.

It will work out just fine.

Learn about Marxism-Rodgerism.

Have faith in the Supreme Gentleman.
 
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it actually depends on what you're working with, IVF can at least screen out certain defects. I think IVF is an important tool to eventually reduce females into incubators
 
Before I start this thread, I would like to open with this quote:

Odes, III, Horace


This is quite open to various interpretations: However, I personally see it in the light of what we now know as dysgenics, which is what I wish to discern more about here. I have touched upon this topic various times, since our society is clearly dysgenic; contributing to the rise in Inceldom.

In this thread, I will cover a topic -which I've never seen discussed on here at all- which also has affected me personally.

I have alluded to this a few times here, but my birth was not a natural one: It required for my parents to utilize modern medicine, in order for me to be born.

As such, I will touch upon this topic, and the potential contributions it has to the Incel issue.

To begin with, findings show that a correlation does exist between that of infertility, as well as ASD:



However, let's take a look at the treatment itself:


It seems that this kind of treatment is associated with premature birth, which many here already know is an issue, and have attributed their inceldom(at least in part)towards it: Not to mention, the studies clearly indicate an increase in psychological issues, physical disabilities, etc.

Whilst touching on physical defects, it also was found that IVF stunts growth:



The height on both lines of my family was stunted, due to some of my tall male ancestors(6'0-6'2)marrying & reproducing with foidlets; this is why we need eugenics.

This study did state that whilst IVF children are more likely to be born with a lower birth-weight & premature(probably why I'm a skinnycel), it does make a claim that the overall amounts will be "adjusted" once family conditions are accounted for:


In a way, they are once again, reaffirming our point: Yes, later life changes may assist in development, but genetics play a fundamental role as well.

Furthermore, it also enhances the risk of cardiovascular disease:


My family has a history of this, so thanks guys. :society:

Now to touch upon this further, I will explain my schizo beliefs on nature, religion, etc: I believe we all have souls that should have been born in other bodies, but due to some sort of cosmic fate, we were fated to what we all are. However, due to my birth being unnatural, I have questioned if I myself am a "natural soul" if that makes sense. Furthermore, I feel as if this proves I was destined to fail from the moment of my birth: I was not natural, I do not exist within the laws of nature which I adhere towards as a Blackpiller, Agnostic, & National Socialist. :blackpill:

Furthermore, this shows just how dysgenic our society is progressing, and how Inceldom will continue to rise: Not just due to Hypergamy, but the consequences of it.

@based_meme @WorthlessSlavicShit @anandkonda @LeFrenchCel @Uggo Mongo @TBIcel @Pancakecel @RegularManlet @To koniec @Fatass3000 @Ron.Belgrade @Grim_Reaper @VictimofBpillReaper @CopingForBrutality @Fire. @Chudpreet @My Name Jeff @Seahorsecel @ElTruecel @Pajeetsingh @RealSchizo @wereq @SupremeSaint @Aquiline
Its been long known that IVF creates dysgenic children, sorry that you were a testtubecel buddyboyo
 
my half brother was conceived through IVF and he's like 5'2, very skinny and a giga autist
 
This is a lot to read. Let me sit down with a beer. I hope it's pro-IVF rather than anti.
 
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@kay' I want your advice you're like a wise old sage
 
Programming or IT
No that's not what I meant. I can either be a CA or a doctor.

If I become a doctor it is a very long course (12 years) and expensive but I can earn decent money and not travel very far for work

If I become a CA I will earn less and might have to work more but the money saved will sit in the bank and earn enough interest to cover the expenses of an entire family
 
No that's not what I meant. I can either be a CA or a doctor.

If I become a doctor it is a very long course (12 years) and expensive but I can earn decent money and not travel very far for work

If I become a CA I will earn less and might have to work more but the money saved will sit in the bank and earn enough interest to cover the expenses of an entire family
idk what CA is
 
Doctor then, since your dad is a dr too, he has connections and can help you and pave the way.

at 30 you ll be a doctor and itll attract them hoes.
 
Doctor then, since your dad is a dr too, he has connections
Not really he did nothing, just sat around enjoying his salary
at 30 you ll be a doctor and itll attract them hoes.
Used up post wall gold digging whores finally ready to settle down
 
Not really he did nothing, just sat around enjoying his salary

Used up post wall gold digging whores finally ready to settle down
No at 30 ur young, 18 yos will jump you if you re rich and a dr
 
No at 30 ur young, 18 yos will jump you if you re rich and a dr
Doesn't work that way in curryland. Also doctors don't magically start earning a huge amount when they're just starting out. That happens if you have an established practice and are at least 45-50 years old. If I become a CA I'll earn the same amount as a doctor at 32 but it won't grow as much

Normally i would've become a doctor at 28 but I wasted 4 years of my life so itll take me 32 at the very least now
 
Doesn't work that way in curryland. Also doctors don't magically start earning a huge amount when they're just starting out. That happens if you have an established practice and are at least 45-50 years old. If I become a CA I'll earn the same amount as a doctor at 32 but it won't grow as much

Normally i would've become a doctor at 28 but I wasted 4 years of my life so itll take me 32 at the very least now
Just rope bro
 
That's not helpful, tell me something good
You re telling me you need 12 years to become a dr. Then somehow your dad does nothing and he gets payed. Then you tell me if you graduate at 32 you nedd 15 years to start making money because curryland for some reason??


What do you want me to advise you when all what you said is random lies and stories.
 
You re telling me you need 12 years to become a dr
That's normal
Then somehow your dad does nothing and he gets payed.
He doesn't do literally nothing. He doesn't have a clinic or a hospital, what am I supposed to do? I can't automatically just get his job
Then you tell me if you graduate at 32 you nedd 15 years to start making money because curryland for some reason??
To make GOOD money, yes. There are too many doctors and it drives down salaries. Once I graduate I will earn decently but not enough to live like a rich person
What do you want me to advise you when all what you said is random lies and stories.
You are paranoid
 

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