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He is a fakecel.
 
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This abomination shouldn't register as a sexual partner or even a woman.
 
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Wizchan said:
Basically, you're saying sexual acts, such as a blowjob and handjob are not sex
Correct, I believe the term "sex" is meant to indicate "sexual intercourse" not "sexual acts".
The phrase "sexual acts" is potentially infinitely broad.

Wizchan said:
girls who suck dick are virgins :feelstastyman:
That depends on whether or not the dick-suckers have had a penis enter into their vagina.

The standard usage of "the girl losing her virginity" or "deflowering the maiden" is jamming a penis into her vagina, not into her mouth.

Wizchan said:
A genital exam is not the same as a blowjob because it's performed for medical reasons :feelsseriously:

It's pretty easy. It's when someone touches your dick with the intention to masturbate you
Intent does not matter.
Only the mechanics.
If gigachad was forced at-gunpoint to rape a sleeping landwhale 1/10 then neither would have sexual intentions but she would still be a non-virgin at the end of it.


Wizchan said:
look, a virgin according to your cucked definition
Odds are she has had a penis in her vagina, so probably not.
Cristo said:
He is a fakecel.
ten fucking days
 
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Wizard32 said:
Correct, I believe the term "sex" is meant to indicate "sexual intercourse" not "sexual acts".
It's actually the opposite. That's why a blowjob it's called oral sex. There's also anal sex :feelsthink:
Wizard32 said:
That depends on whether or not the dick-suckers have had a penis enter into their vagina.
No, it doesn't. No woman that gives head is a virgin. It's low iq to think a woman who sucks dicks and has had semen down her throat can be a virgin. Her vagina might be intact, but she is a whore and not a virgin for having performed oral sex.
Wizard32 said:
The standard usage of "the girl losing her virginity" or "deflowering the maiden" is jamming a penis into her vagina, not into her mouth.
Indeed, but you also lose your virginity if you've had anal or oral sex. What's so hard to get about that? You sound like you have a problem with language.
Wizard32 said:
Intent does not matter.
Only the mechanics.
And the mechanics of a doctor seeing your dick are...? It's a doctor checking your dick, not masturbating you or giving you head :feelsseriously:
Wizard32 said:
If gigachad was forced at-gunpoint to rape a sleeping landwhale 1/10 then neither would have sexual intentions but she would still be a non-virgin at the end of it.
The intention of gigachad when having sex with the landwhale is to have forceful sex with her in order to save his own life, so it's sex. You're not the sharpest tool:feelstastyman:
 
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getting a foot job from that disgusting thing isn’t bragging..
 
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Wizchan said:
It's actually the opposite. That's why a blowjob it's called oral sex. There's also anal sex :feelsthink:
Those are neologisms meant to change the definition of sexual intercourse.

Traditionally both are just sodomy.

Wizchan said:
No woman that gives head is a virgin.
It's low iq to think a woman who sucks dicks and has had semen down her throat can be a virgin.
Her vagina might be intact, but she is a whore and not a virgin for having performed oral sex.
My usage of whore is as a synonym for prostitute, not slut.

You are basically redefining "sex" and "virgin" for these purposes, I don't see the value in doing that.

It's too slippery a slope, what's the authority on where it ends if we allow that?

Wizchan said:
Indeed, but you also lose your virginity if you've had anal or oral sex. What's so hard to get about that? You sound like you have a problem with language.

You sound like you're completely ignorant of classic common usage pre-2021.

Do you need me to quote some books for you bro? I have some.

Wizchan said:
And the mechanics of a doctor seeing your dick are...? It's a doctor checking your dick, not masturbating you or giving you head :feelsseriously:
They actually palpate your testicles.

I'm saying results matter more than intentions.

If for example a girl was showering in the nude and slipped on a bar of soap and fell out of her 2nd-story window onto the penis of an erect hobo, this still counts as sex and a loss of virginity regardless of whether either of them intended for this happenstance to be sexual.

I mean fuck, what's next, porn stars aren't having sex with each other because their intent is to make money from their jobs and not to get off?

Prostitutes aren't actually having sex because they're doing it for money and not lust?

Intent doesn't matter: sex is defined by mechanics.

So if "a hand touched my genitalia" counts as sex, then most guys got "sex" from their cough-test.

Wizchan said:
The intention of gigachad when having sex with the landwhale is to have forceful sex with her in order to save his own life, so it's sex. You're not the sharpest tool:feelstastyman:
and the intention of a doctor is to give you a handjob in order to save her own job
 
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Wizard32 said:
Those are neologisms meant to change the definition of sexual intercourse.

Traditionally both are just sodomy.
A "neologism" only according to you. Oral sex and anal sex are both forms of sex. Again, sex isn't exclusive to penetration. Sodomy is still sex :feelskek:
Sodomy (/ˈsɒdəmi/) or buggery (British English) is generally anal or oral sex between people or sexual activity between a person and a non-human animal (bestiality), but it may also mean any non-procreative sexual activity
Arguing semantics really show how silly you are, you're basically saying "sex isn't sex, it's this other word that also means sex".
Wizard32 said:
You are basically redefining "sex" and "virgin" for these purposes, I don't see the value in doing that.


It's too slippery a slope, what's the authority on where it ends if we allow that?
You're not having sex if a whore blows your dick or you fuck her asshole? A virgin is anyone who never had sex, a blowjob counts as sex. It isn't that hard to get.
Wizard32 said:
You sound like you're completely ignorant of classic common usage pre-2021.

Do you need me to quote some books for you bro? I have some.
According to you, a "wizard" who gets his dick sucked by women is still a virgin and upholds the values of celibacy. That's your technical and absurd definition:feelskek: You're a clown :feelsclown:
Wizard32 said:
I'm saying results matter more than intentions.
And what exactly is the result of a genital examination? Do you proof read what you write?
Wizard32 said:
and the intention of a doctor is to give you a handjob in order to save her own job
Only in your low IQ and confused brain a genital exam counts as sex or a handjob.
 
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Wizchan said:
A "neologism" only according to you. Oral sex and anal sex are both forms of sex.
How far back can you trace that line of thinking?
Particularly amongst biologists and other scientists that stance doesn't hold water.

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Again, sex isn't exclusive to penetration. Sodomy is still sex :feelskek:
coitus / copulation / sexual intercourse traditionally only refer to penis-in-vagina and not other stuff

fags started terms like "anal sex" because they wanted something to call it other than sodomy

Wizchan said:
Arguing semantics really show how silly you are, you're basically saying "sex isn't sex, it's this other word that also means sex".
Again you didn't even attribute what dictionary/printing your pasted definition is from: useless.

Wizchan said:
You're not having sex if a whore blows your dick or you fuck her asshole? A virgin is anyone who never had sex, a blowjob counts as sex. It isn't that hard to get.
I understand your argument, I just dispute it.
Blowjobs aren't coitus.
Virginity is lost only via coitus.
Hell calling it "sex" is also low-IQ slang that I should probably stop doing, since it's traditionally meant to be a noun for a classificaiton of adjectives (male/female) not an act.

Wizchan said:
According to you, a "wizard" who gets his dick sucked by women is still a virgin and upholds the values of celibacy.
I do not believe celibacy has any inherent value. Things that sometimes overlap or associate with it may, but it can be entirely circumstantial.


Wizchan said:
That's your technical and absurd definition:feelskek: You're a clown :feelsclown:
Not sure why you're calling it MY definition.
This usage I cite predates my birth.
Here's two examples:

Feel free to find your own examples of "she lost her virginity by giving a blowjob" or "he lost his virginity when a girl gave him a handjob"

I expect you won't find much, and anything you do find would be pretty recent.
 
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Wizard32 said:
Feel free to find your own examples of "she lost her virginity by giving a blowjob" or "he lost his virginity when a girl gave him a handjob"

I expect you won't find much, and anything you do find would be pretty recent.
:feelskek:Feel free to find someone who has no common sense like you that would call a woman a virgin when she's had her holes filled with cum after having anal sex and oral sex because of an old definition of virginity loss that ignores other forms of sex.

Wizard32 said:
coitus / copulation / sexual intercourse traditionally only refer to penis-in-vagina and not other stuff
fags started terms like "anal sex" because they wanted something to call it other than sodomy
Again you didn't even attribute what dictionary/printing your pasted definition is from: useless.
Blowjobs aren't coitus.
Intercourse: physical sexual contact between individuals that involves the genitalia of at least one person
Following your cucked and low IQ definition of virginity loss we will have to conclude that gays can never lose their virginity unless they have sex with women so gay dudes who never fucked a woman but hundreds of guys are virgins :feelskek: Do you lack common sense that you will call them celibates too because of one wrong definition? You want to adhere to some definition that obviously ignored other ways of sex because they didn't consider it as such. Sorry, wizard, but if you had intercourse you're no longer a virgin or celibate.
Wizard32 said:
Virginity is lost only via coitus.
You said it, that's the traditional and cucked definition of virginity loss. Is it hard to put two and two together and see that is absurd? It's foolish that you think a person can still be considered "pure" or "celibate" or "virgin" only because they're not having one way of sexual intercourse. I've already given you examples, a girl could be having anal sex with her bf and different boys practicing oral sex on her and you would still call her a virgin because of what some people in the past thought :feelskek:
You're supposed to use your brain and not blindly agree that what other people thought about a subject is right.
 
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Wizchan said:
:feelskek:Feel free to find someone who has no common sense like you that would call a woman a virgin when she's had her holes filled with cum after having anal sex and oral sex because of an old definition of virginity loss that ignores other forms of sex.
I'm not sure why you use "old definition" like an insult.

Anyone can make up a "new definition" for something at any point, making all preceding definitions an "old definition".

For example, I'll do this on the spot right now.

Eye contact is now "eye sex".

If you have ever made eye contact with a girl, you ascended, you are no longer a virgin.

Anyone who disputes this is now an outdated oldfag using OLD definitions which lack common sense.

We have long known eye contact to be sex... its a PENETRATING gaze and you MAKE LOVE WITH YOUR EYES.

All you guys who claim to be celibates but have made eye contact with a girl are FAKECELs.


Wizchan said:
Modern (((Merriam-Webster))) is cucked

Notice for example incompetent phrasing like "physical sexual contact".

Is there such a thing as non-physical "sexual contact"?

It also doesn't define what the phrase "sexual contact" means.

Dictionaries also inherently defer to the degeneration of language, because we people start to mis-use words, if the mis-use becomes popular for WHATEVER REASON (even moronic ones) they'll start to reflect that.

IE soon "rape" will include making eye contact with a woman without her permission. I estimate by 2030 we'll see that in print.

Wizchan said:
Following your cucked and low IQ definition of virginity loss we will have to conclude that gays can never lose their virginity unless they have sex with women so gay dudes who never fucked a woman but hundreds of guys are virgins :feelskek:
Correct, their sodomy emulates sex but is not actually sex.

What we see with fellatio/anal is basically metaphorical usage, in the same way you say "I've never eaten tofu before – you could say I'm a tofu virgin."

Wizchan said:
Do you lack common sense that you will call them celibates too because of one wrong definition?
Celibacy more traditionally than abstinence from sex also requires abstaining from marrying, and also from abstaining from sexual thought.

Homosexuals don't do that because even when they engage in non-sex acts like fellatio/anal they are still subconsciously having sexual thoughts about fucking women, it just gets twisted up in their heads to target guys instead.

Wizchan said:
You want to adhere to some definition that obviously ignored other ways of sex because they didn't consider it as such.
By "some definition" you mean the "original authorative definition" I assume?

I'm for inventing new terms, not redefining old ones into ever-broadening absurdities.

Otherwise you get gaze-sex, as above.

Wizchan said:
Sorry, wizard, but if you had intercourse you're no longer a virgin or celibate.
I agree, but intercourse is only penis-in-vagina.

I have not been involved in fellatio/anal/hand either. My refusal to call those sex-emulators truesex isn't related to me having had them.


Wizchan said:
You said it, that's the traditional and cucked definition of virginity loss.
There's nothing cucked about traditional ideas about what sexual intercourse is.

Vaginal virginity is obviously the most important kind so it makes sense to prioritize it.

Traditionally it was also the only one there was any kind of realistic test for (hymen vs no hymen) whereas it's much harder to tell hands/anus/mouth "virginity"


Wizchan said:
It's foolish that you think a person can still be considered "pure" or "celibate" or "virgin" only because they're not having one way of sexual intercourse.

There is only one kind of sexual intercourse: penis in vagina.

Genitalia inside Genitalia. That's it.

Genitalia + Non-Genitalia is sexual intercourse, which involves the sexual components (genitalia of both halves) coming together.

At best we could term these other things "half-sex" or "pseudosex"

Wizchan said:
I've already given you examples, a girl could be having anal sex with her bf and different boys practicing oral sex on her and you would still call her a virgin because of what some people in the past thought :feelskek:
You're supposed to use your brain and not blindly agree that what other people thought about a subject is right.

We're both using our brains.
My agreement is not blind, I have a philosophical stance on how words should be used.

The "vaginal virgin" as you might put it, is the traditional meaning of "virgin" which should be assumed if used unmodified.

That or we simply abandon "virgin" used without context and always require modifiers to give it context.
 
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