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I’ve spent a lot of time digging for this before I joined the forum. Figured I’d make a post right now

So if I’m right on this, blackpill was adopted by incels between 2011-2018. In 2011, an MRA MGTOW blogger branded his blog as “blackpill”
He was sympathetic towards incels, and the named his blog blackpille to differentiate from the PUA centered MGTOWs.

Around 2018, he made a blogpost clearing our name from Alex Minassian’s attack in Canada.

But I think I’ve seen evidence before of the term blackpill being used in incel forums (sluthate, puahate, r/incels… I don’t recall…).

So it seems like the adoption was natural and slow. FACEandLMS said blackpill was the new redpill in a 2018 video. So I’m guessing there was a community agreement to adopt the name blackpill around the time Alex went berserk.
 
So I’m guessing there was a community agreement to adopt the name blackpill around the time Alex went berserk.
No, the term blackpill was already a core part of incel lingo even before Alek Minassian. You can find numerous posts here from 2017 using the term. I'm pretty sure PUAhate or Sluthate popularized the expression
 
No, the term blackpill was already a core part of incel lingo even before Alek Minassian. You can find numerous posts here from 2017 using the term. I'm pretty sure PUAhate or Sluthate popularized the expression
I remember a greenpill (peter pan syndrome) from sluthate but blackpill was probably there as well, I just can't recollect. On puahate the most memorable thing for me was misclegend memes lol. I'm not sure if pill talk was big then beyond mocking redpill puas.

@Ryo_Hazuki probably remembers more.
 
Offtopic but alek minassian had a chad face
 
misclegend memes
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No, the term blackpill was already a core part of incel lingo even before Alek Minassian. You can find numerous posts here from 2017 using the term. I'm pretty sure PUAhate or Sluthate popularized the expression
but the real question is, did the inkwell community still call itself redpill before 2018?
 
I remember a greenpill (peter pan syndrome) from sluthate but blackpill was probably there as well, I just can't recollect. On puahate the most memorable thing for me was misclegend memes lol.
Don't forget the jsanza29 memes, it's a shame many were lost to time when puahate shut down. I still remember back when jsanza29 joined puahate back in like 2010 and kept asking everyone the same questions "was I good looking as a kid?" "did puberty ruin my looks?" over and over again.

@Ryo_Hazuki probably remembers more.
It's hard to pinpoint exactly when the term "blackpill" was adopted by incels. From my understanding "blackpill" was first used by a commenter on an anti-feminist blog. But it wasn't until around 2013-2014 when it became the default philosophy/identity for incels. Eggy is generally seen as the first one who really brought the term "black pill" into the spotlight back in 2015 with his iconic "take the blackpill" video.

But prior to the mid 2010s we identified as "red pilled". Most people in proto-incel forums were guys who went through a more traditional red pill phase (cold approaching, possibly using PUA tactics, etc.) before becoming disillusioned with it due to constant rejection. We discovered the importance of looks the hard way and would say that looks being the most important thing was "the REAL red pill". The term "blackpill" was very useful as it was our way of clearly distinguishing ourselves from and distancing ourselves from their beliefs, although some of the lingo we still use today (like "mog") originally comes from the red pill.

I might be a little off with the years though, my memory isn't the greatest.
 
Most people in proto-incel forums were guys who went through a more traditional red pill phase (cold approaching, possibly using PUA tactics, etc.) before becoming disillusioned with it due to constant rejection. We discovered the importance of looks the hard way and would say that looks being the most important thing was "the REAL red pill".
This is what’s sad about the young newgen. They’ll keep being susceptible to grifters because they haven’t been burned by the original manosphere grifters. The new age grifters are more insidious because they’ll keep selling a solution that uses infomercials that are closer to the truth than PUAs.

Also, you understand foids a ton more if you first went down the PUA route. And if you did a lot of approaches, you will have confirmation if you’re incel or not
 
Don't forget the jsanza29 memes, it's a shame many were lost to time when puahate shut down. I still remember back when jsanza29 joined puahate back in like 2010 and kept asking everyone the same questions "was I good looking as a kid?" "did puberty ruin my looks?" over and over again.
Lmao yeah you refreshed my memory. It's good there are videos floating around still.

View: https://youtu.be/elroYaDZwqU?feature=shared


Btw bodybuilding forum also mocked misclegend if I remember correctly. I didn't post there but I lurked when I was gym goer. 'Looking good goodlooking misc' lol.
 
This is what’s sad about the young newgen. They’ll keep being susceptible to grifters because they haven’t been burned by the original manosphere grifters. The new age grifters are more insidious because they’ll keep selling a solution that uses infomercials that are closer to the truth than PUAs.

Also, you understand foids a ton more if you first went down the PUA route. And if you did a lot of approaches, you will have confirmation if you’re incel or not
Yeah, I've been saying exactly this for years.

I have a lot of life experience and did a lot of cold approaches. I've known a lot of guys who got women easily and a lot of guys who were truecels. I discovered the blackpill (long before it was called "the blackpill") through trial and error and through observation. Guys like us don't fall for bullshit grifting.

It seems like every couple of years there's a new grift or form of broscience that ends up getting shilled for aggressively within incel/blackpill communities and it's always the impressionable youngcels who fall for it. BBC theory, thugmaxxing, just be low inhib, oofy doofy, and now "Genetics is cope, if you ate raw meat you'd be a chad" thanks to influence from an absolute quack (goatis). I always make sure to push back against these subversive grifts/broscience but unfortunately these people have an incredible amount of zeal, and they have the time and motivation to make like 50 posts a day shilling for free. It's all so tiresome.
 
Yeah, I've been saying exactly this for years.

I have a lot of life experience and did a lot of cold approaches. I've known a lot of guys who got women easily and a lot of guys who were truecels. I discovered the blackpill (long before it was called "the blackpill") through trial and error and through observation. Guys like us don't fall for bullshit grifting.

It seems like every couple of years there's a new grift or form of broscience that ends up getting shilled for aggressively within incel/blackpill communities and it's always the impressionable youngcels who fall for it. BBC theory, thugmaxxing, just be low inhib, oofy doofy, and now "Genetics is cope, if you ate raw meat you'd be a chad" thanks to influence from an absolute quack (goatis). I always make sure to push back against these subversive grifts/broscience but unfortunately these people have an incredible amount of zeal, and they have the time and motivation to make like 50 posts a day shilling for free. It's all so tiresome.
Goatis is retarded bro even he himself doesn't eat that shit outside videos
 
Goatis is retarded bro even he himself doesn't eat that shit outside videos
Goatis is like a living embodiment of "confidently wrong". He's said that the earth is flat, that having cancer is healthy, and that humans used to be 10 feet tall and live to 150 before modern diets. He never gives any evidence of his claims or even explains his reasoning, he just confidently makes assertions.

[aspie monotone voice] "*awkward forced laugh* blah blah blah THAT FOOD IS TOXIC blah blah blah *awkward forced laugh* DOESN'T EXIST IN NATURE blah blah blah NOT NAYTURUL (how he pronounces natural)". [/aspie monotone voice]

Oh, and there's also the fact that he's drank human blood and urine on camera (he denies ever doing the latter, but again, he's done it on camera and there are clips of it on youtube still) and tried to have his infant son killed.

It's crazy how many dick riders this guy has. Seems like there's a certain type of person who somehow gets persuaded by people who just repeat the same thing over and over with conviction. There's also the appeal to contrarianism that attracts a lot of midwits.
 
Yeah, I've been saying exactly this for years.

I have a lot of life experience and did a lot of cold approaches. I've known a lot of guys who got women easily and a lot of guys who were truecels. I discovered the blackpill (long before it was called "the blackpill") through trial and error and through observation. Guys like us don't fall for bullshit grifting.

It seems like every couple of years there's a new grift or form of broscience that ends up getting shilled for aggressively within incel/blackpill communities and it's always the impressionable youngcels who fall for it. BBC theory, thugmaxxing, just be low inhib, oofy doofy, and now "Genetics is cope, if you ate raw meat you'd be a chad" thanks to influence from an absolute quack (goatis). I always make sure to push back against these subversive grifts/broscience but unfortunately these people have an incredible amount of zeal, and they have the time and motivation to make like 50 posts a day shilling for free. It's all so tiresome.
Yeah when you grew up with the typical manopshere grifters and get burned by them, you’ll see how low people will go to, just for a quick buck. It’s insane:feelsUgh:. You’ll learn to avoid/be highly skeptical to everyone trying to sell you something in these spaces. In economics, you learn that when a market has low costs/barriers to entry, then it becomes competitive to the point where profits for everyone are really thin. All these manosphere grifters come from the same “make money online. Online = scale” hype bubble, so these people will say anything in this saturated market that they know will turn dollars. Pretty much +90% of male centered advice content is a grift.
For instance:
That’s why gym gurus all have different promises and methods (which exercises, regimen, routines, diets, PEDs, supplements to take and their effectiveness), despite theirs being the “scientifically proven correct one.” I don’t know a single gym guru who I can trust is giving me good faith and accurate information. They never mention genetics or how you’re supposed to have an expert tailor it all for you in the first place.

And even for the guys who never got deep into the grift, but can see from a distance that they’re shilling snake oil—they’re more willing to trust these new looksmaxxing grifters because they learn that looks matter, but they think org is too autistic to know any good. So they fall for the same tactics, but from new faces. “Blackpill is too negative to be right bro” .. yeah, that’ll happen to truth seekers from the disillusionment from it all.

"Genetics is cope, if you ate raw meat you'd be a chad"
Another one that’s taking off with greycels/tiktokcels is “just be healthier and you’ll automatically look more attractive”

Videos like these are funny because they visually compare white men from before to low T ethnic men today . Prenatal T is also not mentioned, despite it being most important part of “testmaxxing”. “Just get sunlight bro” “just sleep more bro” JFL

As for thugmaxxing, there’s something there to it, but the problem is looks matter more (for attraction and having a normal long-lasting relationship) and you can’t “thugmaxx”… you have to already ‘be about that life’ since personality isn’t malleable like that. For LTNs and above, it can perhaps really help with participating in hookup culture, but it’s still risky and actively lowers their chance of living.
People confuse/overlap being low inhib with thugmaxxing, when being low inhib is just yet another repackaged term for being NT. Just the red blooded type. No different than redpill alpha male advice. All that “passing shit test” stuff does is attempt to prolong an oofy doofy relationship @lifefuel
 
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I think it was called redpill before, and then saint hamudi changed it to blackpill or smth, and now redpill is associated with tate instead of incels
 

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