Some background, I'm an English major so doing critical analyses are my specialty. This is going to be a long thread and I'd recommend you don't read it unless you really like The Terminator, and/or movies in general, and also want to see how Inceldom concepts can be represented in them.
In the movie The Terminator it is about a men send to the past to protect the woman who is the mother of the leader of humanity's resistance against machines that have taken over the world.
The casual viewer may question, how can this be a movie about an incel? But read on and you will understand.
What is special about this movie though that is overlooked by many is that the man sent back in time, Kyle Reese, is in fact an incel. His age is not disclosed during the movie but if we were to accept his actor, Michael Biehn's age as canon then Kyle Reese would be 28.
Kyle Reese's inceldom is confirmed during this exchange with Sarah Connor, the woman he was sent to protect in a motel room shortly after escaping the eponymous Terminator for the second time.
SARAH (softly)
Kyle, the women in your
time...what were they like?
REESE Good fighters.
SARAH That's not what I meant.
Was there someone special?
REESE Someone?
SARAH A girl. You know.
REESE (mechanically)
No.
(pause)
Never.
He looks away, outside the window
SARAH (softly)
I'm sorry.
Sarah studies him for a moment.
She's sitting slightly behind him and she puts her hands
on his shoulders and back, tracing the lines of his scars
with her fingertips.
SARAH So much pain.
REESE Pain can be controlled.
You disconnect it.
SARAH And so you feel nothing.
REESE It's better that way.
SARAH (with great
sympathy)
Oh, Kyle.
In this scene Reese reveals he's never had a girl in his life, after Sarah asks if there's ever been a girl in his life.
You could say, well Zesto, Reese probably had sex he just never had a girlfriend. No, Reese makes that clear when he emphatically says "Never" after "No" that he has never been with a girl before. He does not say the women of his time sexually, only as fellow warriors.
This is confirmed in the fact that during a flashback seen Reese is seen leading his squad which consists of at least one female member against "Hunter Killer" non humanoid terminators.
Sarah says "I'm sorry" because at that moment she realizes that Reese has lived a life of loneliness understanding the implications of Reese's response to her question.
Now you may say well Zesto, Reese comes from a dystopian post-apocalyptic hellscape world. Sex is the last thing on people's minds so Reese can't be an incel.
That's not true.
Earlier in the movie Reese tells Sarah the following.
REESE (continuing)
Didn't see the war. I was born
after, in the ruins. Grew up
there. Starving. Hiding from
the H-K's.
From this statement we learn that Reese's parents had him after the war. Thus sex and families still are a common occurrence despite how horrible the world has become.
Who would want to bring children into a war where survival is uncertain and there is no future?
Now you may say Zesto, that was just an isolated case. Most of the survivors are probably from before the war and Reese's parents are just crazy.
Not true.
In one of Reese's flashback scenes he enters a bunker where civilians have taken shelter. The bunker's inhabitants are primarily children.
This is shortly before Reese's departure so these children would born many years after Reese was who himself was born after the war.
Love, families, relationships, still occur in this apocalyptic world. People still desire sex, love, and families.
Yet Reese is outside of this.
In this world Reese has no one.
Shortly after revealing his inceldom to Sarah, Reese also reveals the following.
REESE John Connor gave me a picture
of you once. I never knew
why. It was very old. Torn.
Faded. You were young, like
you are now. You weren't
smiling...just a little sad...
I always wondered what you
were thinking at that second.
He closes his eyes, reaches toward her. His fingertips
trace the contour of her nose, chin, cheeks.
REESE (continuing)
I memorized every line, every
curve...
He opens his eyes, looking right at hers.
REESE (continuing)
Sarah, I came across time
for you. I love you.
I always have.
From this we learn how Reese has coped with his loneliness. Like many here he has chosen to cope with visual media. Sarah Connor was essentially Reese's "waifu" like many who cope with 2d images or those who cope with porn in an attempt to quell their inceldom.
He worshipped the image of Sarah Connor, that image was the only woman in his life. He had nothing else. Just consider the implications of Reese saying he "memorized every line, every curve" of a woman in a photograph. This means he has spent hours just staring at this photo and fantasizing with it. He takes this to such an extreme that he declares his love for Sarah as the reason why he has went back in time to protect her, this is all from a photo.
It has nothing to do with saving John Connor and the future, Reese has gone back in time solely for his "waifu" Sarah Connor and nothing else. His whole mission and motivation is essentially him trying to ascend with her.
Now the viewer can understand why John Connor had selected Kyle Reese. John Connor was the one who gave Reese the photo, and the reason why he did so was because he knew Reese was an incel.
Now you may say, well stupid John Connor gave Reese the photo because that was his mother and he wanted her to protect him. That's why Reese fell in love with her, because of the implications of that.
That is not true as Reese reveals.
REESE John Connor gave me a picture
of you once. I never knew
why. It was very old. Torn.
Faded. You were young, like
you are now. You weren't
smiling...just a little sad...
I always wondered what you
were thinking at that second.
He closes his eyes, reaches toward her. His fingertips
trace the contour of her nose, chin, cheeks.
Reese makes clear that John Connor just gave him the photo without saying why. It was only later after Reese and Connor had successfully stormed SkyNet HQ (the leader of the machines) and discovered of SkyNet's last ditch effort of survival to send back a terminator to kill Sarah Connor did John Connor inform Reese of his mission to go back in time to protect.
Up until that point the photo was just something for Reese to worship. He would have no idea at first that he would be sent back in time to rescue the woman in the picture, it was just something to comfort him.
Now you may ask why John Connor would do this? That is because he knew Kyle Reese was an incel.
John Connor gave Reese (one of his best soldiers) that photo in order to comfort him. This means Reese is unique as an incel among the other soldiers to be specifically chosen by John Connor to receive the photo.
When it was learned of the plot to kill his mother Kyle Reese was the ideal candidate because by that point his feelings for the image of Sarah have long since been established. The mission and his objective and everything he knew about Sarah came long after he first received the photo. Until then Sarah was just an image for him to be worshipped, which he makes clear in his revelations he has worshipped that image for a long time.
Why would John Connor do this, as a tactical genius it could be assumed that he had reason to believe that SkyNet may attempt to assassinate his mother so "grooming" her would be protector may be wise, even if he is not needed. At the very least it was a way to provide comfort for one of his best soldiers, SGT Kyle Reese the virgin warrior, even if he would not be needed to protect her.
The way time works in the Terminator universe is that when someone goes back in time a whole new timeline is created. When SkyNet launched their terminator to kill Sarah Connor it was all in vain because the SkyNet of that universe was doomed regardless.
John Connor, a genius had to have understood this. Yet he sends Kyle Reese back in time anyway to protect his mother even though it's not even his mother but the mother of another version of him in a completely separate universe. The mission is to save that new universe, as the present John Connor had already saved his.
That's why sending Kyle Reese back can accomplish nothing. You may say, well John Connor just wanted to save an innocent universe he did his own. I disagree.
He sent Kyle Reese back because he wanted to give his virgin warrior the chance to experience love for the first time and live the fantasy that he had created for him when he gave him the photo of his mother.
It was completely pointless to send Kyle Reese back for any reason other than this purpose because the mission to save himself was doomed to fail from the beginning.
John Connor was unconceived at the time SkyNet chose to assassinate his mother. Connor had to have known if Kyle Reese was successful in his mission that the would be father would no longer be in Sarah's life. Reese's mission was to protect Connor for the rest of her life, and thus sending him makes it impossible for Sarah to lead the life that led to his birth to begin with.
Now you may ask, well that's all well and good for the mythos of The Terminator but what does that have to do with inceldom?
Everything.
John Connor's original father was not Kyle Reese, but he was in fact a Chad.
Not just any Chad but one who had extremely high SMV and was disclosed in the movie to be rich.
VOICE (recorded)
Hi, Sarah...Stan Morsky.
Uh, something's come up and
it looks like I won't be able
to make it tonight. I'm really
sorry. Call you in a day or so.
Sorry. 'Bye.
Sarah stands still, crestfallen.
GINGER That bum. So what if he has
a Porsche, he can't treat you
like that...it's Friday night
for crissakes.
SARAH (slumping)
I'll live.
GINGER I'll break his kneecaps.
Sarah resignedly slips Pugsley off her shoulders.
SARAH You still love me, don't
you, Pugsley?
She places Pugsley in a large terrarium with a 'BEWARE OF
DOG' sign taped on the side.
SARAH (continuing)
I'm going to a movie, kiddo.
See ya'. You and Matt have
a good time.
We learn a lot from this scene. Sarah in the movie is dating a guy named Stan Morsky who I presume without a doubt is the John Connor of the present's father.
Stan Morsky "drives a Porsche" and is Sarah's 100% rich boyfriend. Yet he is not just betabuxxing Sarah as they go out and do things together considering they had plans.
If Morsky was betabuxxing Sarah than Sarah would not be disappointed that he cancelled their date.
Who knows what's going on with Morsky, I think the implication of this scene may be that he is cheating with another girl that night instead of being with Sarah.
I find Sarah saying "You still love me don't you" to her roommates pet to be very telling. This means she desires Stan Morsky's love, not just his money and is hurt that she feels he doesn't love her enough to make time for her.
Within the Terminator canon, I'd assume that Stan Morsky as John Connor's original father comes from a powerful family with many connections, hence why John Connor would be in a position to become the defacto leader of humanity in the post apocalyptic future.
John Connor is not a stupid man, but in universe is respected as a tactical genius. He would've known sending Kyle Reese back would make the scenario that led to his birth from his real father Stan Morsky impossible. Yet he chose to send Reese back anyway.
The reason is because Connor having saved his world, wanted to save his friend Kyle Reese.
The whole plot of the movie is John Connor sending his most trusted soldier back so that he may escape his inceldom and lose his virginity in a fantasy romance with his own mother.
The reason for this is because the events of the past would be inconsequential to his present. The war was over. Sending Reese back was sending him to an almost certain death and there would be no reason to waste such a good man unless it truly mattered.
Connor sent Reese back not to save himself, but to save Reese so that he may ascend from his inceldom.
If you made this far I thank you. The Terminator is my favorite movie and I've watched it dozens of times. I am so glad that I have a community I feel would be able to appreciate this analysis as these are topics I have thought many times while watching the movie but until tonight had never expressed these thoughts before.
Hopefully you will have a new appreciation for the movie, as I think it's an important film to see for incels as rarely is their mass market Hollywood media that can be applicable to us.
In the movie The Terminator it is about a men send to the past to protect the woman who is the mother of the leader of humanity's resistance against machines that have taken over the world.
The casual viewer may question, how can this be a movie about an incel? But read on and you will understand.
What is special about this movie though that is overlooked by many is that the man sent back in time, Kyle Reese, is in fact an incel. His age is not disclosed during the movie but if we were to accept his actor, Michael Biehn's age as canon then Kyle Reese would be 28.
Kyle Reese's inceldom is confirmed during this exchange with Sarah Connor, the woman he was sent to protect in a motel room shortly after escaping the eponymous Terminator for the second time.
SARAH (softly)
Kyle, the women in your
time...what were they like?
REESE Good fighters.
SARAH That's not what I meant.
Was there someone special?
REESE Someone?
SARAH A girl. You know.
REESE (mechanically)
No.
(pause)
Never.
He looks away, outside the window
SARAH (softly)
I'm sorry.
Sarah studies him for a moment.
She's sitting slightly behind him and she puts her hands
on his shoulders and back, tracing the lines of his scars
with her fingertips.
SARAH So much pain.
REESE Pain can be controlled.
You disconnect it.
SARAH And so you feel nothing.
REESE It's better that way.
SARAH (with great
sympathy)
Oh, Kyle.
In this scene Reese reveals he's never had a girl in his life, after Sarah asks if there's ever been a girl in his life.
You could say, well Zesto, Reese probably had sex he just never had a girlfriend. No, Reese makes that clear when he emphatically says "Never" after "No" that he has never been with a girl before. He does not say the women of his time sexually, only as fellow warriors.
This is confirmed in the fact that during a flashback seen Reese is seen leading his squad which consists of at least one female member against "Hunter Killer" non humanoid terminators.
Sarah says "I'm sorry" because at that moment she realizes that Reese has lived a life of loneliness understanding the implications of Reese's response to her question.
Now you may say well Zesto, Reese comes from a dystopian post-apocalyptic hellscape world. Sex is the last thing on people's minds so Reese can't be an incel.
That's not true.
Earlier in the movie Reese tells Sarah the following.
REESE (continuing)
Didn't see the war. I was born
after, in the ruins. Grew up
there. Starving. Hiding from
the H-K's.
From this statement we learn that Reese's parents had him after the war. Thus sex and families still are a common occurrence despite how horrible the world has become.
Who would want to bring children into a war where survival is uncertain and there is no future?
Now you may say Zesto, that was just an isolated case. Most of the survivors are probably from before the war and Reese's parents are just crazy.
Not true.
In one of Reese's flashback scenes he enters a bunker where civilians have taken shelter. The bunker's inhabitants are primarily children.
This is shortly before Reese's departure so these children would born many years after Reese was who himself was born after the war.
Love, families, relationships, still occur in this apocalyptic world. People still desire sex, love, and families.
Yet Reese is outside of this.
In this world Reese has no one.
Shortly after revealing his inceldom to Sarah, Reese also reveals the following.
REESE John Connor gave me a picture
of you once. I never knew
why. It was very old. Torn.
Faded. You were young, like
you are now. You weren't
smiling...just a little sad...
I always wondered what you
were thinking at that second.
He closes his eyes, reaches toward her. His fingertips
trace the contour of her nose, chin, cheeks.
REESE (continuing)
I memorized every line, every
curve...
He opens his eyes, looking right at hers.
REESE (continuing)
Sarah, I came across time
for you. I love you.
I always have.
From this we learn how Reese has coped with his loneliness. Like many here he has chosen to cope with visual media. Sarah Connor was essentially Reese's "waifu" like many who cope with 2d images or those who cope with porn in an attempt to quell their inceldom.
He worshipped the image of Sarah Connor, that image was the only woman in his life. He had nothing else. Just consider the implications of Reese saying he "memorized every line, every curve" of a woman in a photograph. This means he has spent hours just staring at this photo and fantasizing with it. He takes this to such an extreme that he declares his love for Sarah as the reason why he has went back in time to protect her, this is all from a photo.
It has nothing to do with saving John Connor and the future, Reese has gone back in time solely for his "waifu" Sarah Connor and nothing else. His whole mission and motivation is essentially him trying to ascend with her.
Now the viewer can understand why John Connor had selected Kyle Reese. John Connor was the one who gave Reese the photo, and the reason why he did so was because he knew Reese was an incel.
Now you may say, well stupid John Connor gave Reese the photo because that was his mother and he wanted her to protect him. That's why Reese fell in love with her, because of the implications of that.
That is not true as Reese reveals.
REESE John Connor gave me a picture
of you once. I never knew
why. It was very old. Torn.
Faded. You were young, like
you are now. You weren't
smiling...just a little sad...
I always wondered what you
were thinking at that second.
He closes his eyes, reaches toward her. His fingertips
trace the contour of her nose, chin, cheeks.
Reese makes clear that John Connor just gave him the photo without saying why. It was only later after Reese and Connor had successfully stormed SkyNet HQ (the leader of the machines) and discovered of SkyNet's last ditch effort of survival to send back a terminator to kill Sarah Connor did John Connor inform Reese of his mission to go back in time to protect.
Up until that point the photo was just something for Reese to worship. He would have no idea at first that he would be sent back in time to rescue the woman in the picture, it was just something to comfort him.
Now you may ask why John Connor would do this? That is because he knew Kyle Reese was an incel.
John Connor gave Reese (one of his best soldiers) that photo in order to comfort him. This means Reese is unique as an incel among the other soldiers to be specifically chosen by John Connor to receive the photo.
When it was learned of the plot to kill his mother Kyle Reese was the ideal candidate because by that point his feelings for the image of Sarah have long since been established. The mission and his objective and everything he knew about Sarah came long after he first received the photo. Until then Sarah was just an image for him to be worshipped, which he makes clear in his revelations he has worshipped that image for a long time.
Why would John Connor do this, as a tactical genius it could be assumed that he had reason to believe that SkyNet may attempt to assassinate his mother so "grooming" her would be protector may be wise, even if he is not needed. At the very least it was a way to provide comfort for one of his best soldiers, SGT Kyle Reese the virgin warrior, even if he would not be needed to protect her.
The way time works in the Terminator universe is that when someone goes back in time a whole new timeline is created. When SkyNet launched their terminator to kill Sarah Connor it was all in vain because the SkyNet of that universe was doomed regardless.
John Connor, a genius had to have understood this. Yet he sends Kyle Reese back in time anyway to protect his mother even though it's not even his mother but the mother of another version of him in a completely separate universe. The mission is to save that new universe, as the present John Connor had already saved his.
That's why sending Kyle Reese back can accomplish nothing. You may say, well John Connor just wanted to save an innocent universe he did his own. I disagree.
He sent Kyle Reese back because he wanted to give his virgin warrior the chance to experience love for the first time and live the fantasy that he had created for him when he gave him the photo of his mother.
It was completely pointless to send Kyle Reese back for any reason other than this purpose because the mission to save himself was doomed to fail from the beginning.
John Connor was unconceived at the time SkyNet chose to assassinate his mother. Connor had to have known if Kyle Reese was successful in his mission that the would be father would no longer be in Sarah's life. Reese's mission was to protect Connor for the rest of her life, and thus sending him makes it impossible for Sarah to lead the life that led to his birth to begin with.
Now you may ask, well that's all well and good for the mythos of The Terminator but what does that have to do with inceldom?
Everything.
John Connor's original father was not Kyle Reese, but he was in fact a Chad.
Not just any Chad but one who had extremely high SMV and was disclosed in the movie to be rich.
VOICE (recorded)
Hi, Sarah...Stan Morsky.
Uh, something's come up and
it looks like I won't be able
to make it tonight. I'm really
sorry. Call you in a day or so.
Sorry. 'Bye.
Sarah stands still, crestfallen.
GINGER That bum. So what if he has
a Porsche, he can't treat you
like that...it's Friday night
for crissakes.
SARAH (slumping)
I'll live.
GINGER I'll break his kneecaps.
Sarah resignedly slips Pugsley off her shoulders.
SARAH You still love me, don't
you, Pugsley?
She places Pugsley in a large terrarium with a 'BEWARE OF
DOG' sign taped on the side.
SARAH (continuing)
I'm going to a movie, kiddo.
See ya'. You and Matt have
a good time.
We learn a lot from this scene. Sarah in the movie is dating a guy named Stan Morsky who I presume without a doubt is the John Connor of the present's father.
Stan Morsky "drives a Porsche" and is Sarah's 100% rich boyfriend. Yet he is not just betabuxxing Sarah as they go out and do things together considering they had plans.
If Morsky was betabuxxing Sarah than Sarah would not be disappointed that he cancelled their date.
Who knows what's going on with Morsky, I think the implication of this scene may be that he is cheating with another girl that night instead of being with Sarah.
I find Sarah saying "You still love me don't you" to her roommates pet to be very telling. This means she desires Stan Morsky's love, not just his money and is hurt that she feels he doesn't love her enough to make time for her.
Within the Terminator canon, I'd assume that Stan Morsky as John Connor's original father comes from a powerful family with many connections, hence why John Connor would be in a position to become the defacto leader of humanity in the post apocalyptic future.
John Connor is not a stupid man, but in universe is respected as a tactical genius. He would've known sending Kyle Reese back would make the scenario that led to his birth from his real father Stan Morsky impossible. Yet he chose to send Reese back anyway.
The reason is because Connor having saved his world, wanted to save his friend Kyle Reese.
The whole plot of the movie is John Connor sending his most trusted soldier back so that he may escape his inceldom and lose his virginity in a fantasy romance with his own mother.
The reason for this is because the events of the past would be inconsequential to his present. The war was over. Sending Reese back was sending him to an almost certain death and there would be no reason to waste such a good man unless it truly mattered.
Connor sent Reese back not to save himself, but to save Reese so that he may ascend from his inceldom.
If you made this far I thank you. The Terminator is my favorite movie and I've watched it dozens of times. I am so glad that I have a community I feel would be able to appreciate this analysis as these are topics I have thought many times while watching the movie but until tonight had never expressed these thoughts before.
Hopefully you will have a new appreciation for the movie, as I think it's an important film to see for incels as rarely is their mass market Hollywood media that can be applicable to us.
