Chads could. Maybe 100 years ago but In reality most men are whimps when it comes to women.
Serious Biggest MGTOW/manosphere myth ever: "male friendships are superior than female friendships"
Chads could. Maybe 100 years ago but In reality most men are whimps when it comes to women.
JFL at calling yourself incels and thinking you have friends.
You can cope all you want but statistics don't lie.
White, heterosexual men have the fewest friends of anyone in America, according to a 2006 analysis of two decades of data published in the American Sociological Review.
Social Isolation in America: Changes in Core Discussion Networks over Two Decades on JSTOR
Miller McPherson, Lynn Smith-Lovin, Matthew E. Brashears, Social Isolation in America: Changes in Core Discussion Networks over Two Decades, American Sociological Review, Vol. 71, No. 3 (Jun., 2006), pp. 353-375
www.jstor.org
Humans eat meat though. Brains are very resource intensive. We need animal fat and protein to power our bodies.
How much of this is due to society though? Was this true 100 years ago? If not, what changed?JFL at calling yourself incels and thinking you have friends.
You can cope all you want but statistics don't lie.
White, heterosexual men have the fewest friends of anyone in America, according to a 2006 analysis of two decades of data published in the American Sociological Review.
Social Isolation in America: Changes in Core Discussion Networks over Two Decades on JSTOR
Miller McPherson, Lynn Smith-Lovin, Matthew E. Brashears, Social Isolation in America: Changes in Core Discussion Networks over Two Decades, American Sociological Review, Vol. 71, No. 3 (Jun., 2006), pp. 353-375
Chads think hoes before bros
Typical male friendship:
HE WAS NEVER MY FRIEND.
This is exactly the same thing your "best friend" would say if he would find a Stacy girlfriend who complained about you.
HE WAS NEVER MY FRIEND.
This is exactly the same thing your "best friend" would say if he would find a Stacy girlfriend who complained about you.
So you just said yourself that you never developed deep friendships, it onyl revolved around specific activities, and you never discussed any personal things.
1. How is that an indictment on men as a whole? That sounds just like an indictment on your experiences, on your friends.
You never discussed anything personal? Ok... why not? I did... all the time, and my friends did too. That's why we became better friends...
2. (Like I said I was fortunate to have good friends over the years and I still have one good friend to this day though we never see each other, we just talk on the phone a lot (he is married and moved away.)
"Well there you go"
Ok.... Are you suggesting that he should have not pursued a wife/family or not buy a house somewhere where he could afford to live just so we could still go out for beers every Friday night?
How does that prove your point? If anything, it proves MY point. That even after him getting married and buying a house and moving away, things that happen in life.... we still talk all the time and are good friends.
It's not about amount of friends, it's about the quality. Your post claimed that females had better friendships not more friendships.
Humans eat cooked meat, not raw meat like other carnivores or omnivores do. Try eating raw meat and you'll have pain in your stomach for 5 days. This is due to the fact that the PH in our stomach is designed to digest plant foods.
Our body doesn't care whether the protein we get is animal protein or plant protein. It's the same thing. Anyway, humans don't need that much strength to climb trees and collect food (fruits).
The studies also proved that female friendships last longer and have more friendships that last for life. Men move on to other things and lose their previous circle of friends.
Again, this is prehistorical humanity. Modern humans have evolved diets based on agriculture. Early hominids were omnivores by necessity. We've been hunting for thousands of years prior to agriculture. Why did humans evolve hunting behavior if getting the required nutrients were as simple as climbing trees? Think critically. How many trees are there in the vast savannas and grasslands of Africa and Asia? And part of the reasons our brains evolved to such large proportions is that we learned to cook meat.
And you can actually eat raw meat. Sushi is raw fish, and beef/lamb, when prepped properly, are edible raw with no ill effects. I'm sure smaller game animals like rabbits are also edible this way.
First of all, statistics prove that males have fewer friends and that even those friends are very temporary and based on activities.
Secondly, I'm not speaking for myself only but for other men I knew as well. Even the popular social men never had any deep friendships with anyone, just large circles of friends and they constantly talked shit to each other.
Because if you admit personal things to other men that you're for example an incel/virgin or similar things you will be seen as a lesser man to them and they will taunt you and tell other people. Nowadays I'm open about being a virgin because I don't give a shit about making friends anyway, but back then that would be a social suicide.
I don't know your situation, but if I had a friend who I would consider a great friend and like a brother then yeah, I would expect him to stay somewhere close, if he was such a good good friend.
This just proves that men value wives more than their male friends. Meanwhile Stacy forces her betabuxxer husband to buy a house somewhere near her female friends.
You keep dodging my question/point. How much of this is influenced by society? Why is it considered acceptable for a woman to have this much say in the first place? This wasn't true 100 years ago.
To be fair, what people consider as a friend differs between individuals. Females seem to have a much lower standard for one to be recognised as a friend, I still stand by my initial points.
he probably didn't realize he was repeating feminist propaganda when he made this thread. that's why he's not addressing this point
Difference between male friendships and female friendships:
Male admits to his male friend he is a virgin incel. His male friend thinks less of him now, taunts him and talks shit to him, tells other people in the social circle who all talk trash as well. Of course they always add "we're just fooling around, you know we love you" but in fact they relegated him to beta tier friend and decrease his chances with women even more.
Female admits to her female friend Stacy that she is a virgin femcel who has trouble finding a man she likes. Stacy consoles her, "awww don't cry, I will help to find you a nice boyfriend!" Stacy proceeds to find a Chad boyfriend for her virgin female friend.
The reason why you all post here anyway is because you have zero male friends to talk this with.
Male admits to his male friend he is a virgin incel. His male friend thinks less of him now, taunts him and talks shit to him, tells other people in the social circle who all talk trash as well. Of course they always add "we're just fooling around, you know we love you" but in fact they relegated him to beta tier friend and decrease his chances with women even more.
Female admits to her female friend Stacy that she is a virgin femcel who has trouble finding a man she likes. Stacy consoles her, "awww don't cry, I will help to find you a nice boyfriend!" Stacy proceeds to find a Chad boyfriend for her virgin female friend.
The reason why you all post here anyway is because you have zero male friends to talk this with.
What statistics? I mean, I'm not saying you're wrong, but I've never heard that before... and you keep on using your personal experiences as your reasons for believing X, which is fine, but my experiences were the exact opposite, so you have to at least acknowledge that.
It sounds to me like you had shitty friends if you were never able to open up to them about anything meaningful without being mocked or ostracized. That's not what real friends do. I had plenty of virgin friends and we were able to talk about stuff like that all the time, especially in high school as Chads slayed left and right. If your friends made fun of you for being a virgin or ugly and did it in a truly mean way, they were at best shitty friends.
That seems incredibly unrealistic and selfish of you to think that a great friend "owes" you something as massive as not getting married or not having a family just because "you are bros." I would never hold it against someone who wants to get married and start a family (the one real thing two friends cannot provide eachother) and if you honestly think that is some sort of betrayal, then you're just flat out wrong.
Again, we are still friends and his marriage and moving away did not end that. We constantly text/talk about life and life goals, video games, movies/shows, work, eachothers lives, we even talk about blackpill stuff all the time (he is more mgtow mindset ironically)
I really don't know what more you could reasonably expect out of a friend than that.
All he has to do is look outside of the west to societies in the mideast and SEA to see proper male bonding behavior. Shit, look at street gangs and mafias. The vast majority of what he's talking about is due to a purposeful and systematic destruction of the ability of males to bond, whether that be demonizing and belittling male friendships in general (tell men to man up and satisfy their shrill wives) or destroying male spaces (men's lodges, country clubs, etc). Its obvious this all stems from artificially influenced social changes, not inherent male bonding behavior.
Because female hypergamy prevents incels from getting laid at all. Chad couldn't get you laid even if he wanted to. There was a vid posted a few weeks ago that showed that.
There is no such thing as a "femcel". Females can get laid easily. Chad will fuck anything with pussy.
False. I post here because this place is filled with people like me. I talk IRL about this all the time.
I don't dodge anything, it's just that there are tons of replies to this thread (because people are in denial and coping hard) and I can't answer everything immediately.
It is partly influenced by society because society in the West now shames men for being homosexual if they're too close friends with other men. Also this whole bro culture where you have to talk shit to your friends as opposed to honor culture where men would get offended by this and challenge other men to duels (even their best friends).
Of course this had a lot to do with it but ultimately no one is actually forcing men to follow these trends yet men still do it because they're thirsty cucks chasing that used up pussy.
Men have proven to be extremely weak and treat other men like shit.
I think 100 years ago things weren't much better though, men were occupied with their families early in their life and probably didn't have much time to hang out with their male friends.
Except that the first part isn't true. By elevating women to be equal to men, society has forced these men into paying attention to their wives, lest they lose everything in divorce. Women now have power to dictate what a man can and can't do. In addition, even if the man wasn't married, he still has to play the game lest he lose his breeding hole. In the past, the breeding hole would be left at home with children/other breeding holes while the male went to socialize at a bar or men's club.
Foids and the elites want men to be atomized so they are more easily controlled. In the same way nobody is forcing men to be bluepilled, they still are, despite the blackpill being objectively true. Force can mean more than physical force. It can mean decades of cultural programming and manipulation from very young age. Something we broke out of due to coming to terms with our situation, but not all men are there yet.
I'm now getting shamed for having no male friends on a fucking incel forum LMAO. Yeah, I'm a loner, who would have guessed. I'm sorry I forgot I post on chads.co.
JFL at thinking mafias have any form of friendships. I already adressed that. They're killing each other and ratting out on their "friends". Just read any credible book on organized crime. They gang up because they want to steal as much as they can and have to work together, once someone gets powerful he kills off his former friends or they kill him instead and take over. Or someone gets busted and just rats out on all of them.
No one is forcing men to be dicks to each other and to not hang out. The society simply adapted to men being thirsty cucks like they are.
Previous societies worked differently because those were harder times which forced men to cooperate more. Now we live in degenerate times and men are doing what they want and their true nature is coming out.
What the hell has this got to do with what I said? The fact is men can't discuss their personal problems that make them look weak with other men. Whatever the cause of this problems is is irrelevant. Men don't have intimate relationships, they can't openly talk about the kind of problems that make them look weak and lesser men in the eyes of society.
Yeah you can talk about your problems like getting fired or having problems with law with other men, but not about intimate things that make you look less manly or whatever.
Again, what the hell has this got to do with anything I said? Also femcels exists. It simply means female celibate. I never claimed they are involuntary celibate. Besides, I was just making a point that women help their female friends who struggle in dating and will console them. Men mock other men for being virgins, including their friends.
JFL at thinking mafias have any form of friendships. I already adressed that. They're killing each other and ratting out on their "friends". Just read any credible book on organized crime. They gang up because they want to steal as much as they can and have to work together, once someone gets powerful he kills off his former friends or they kill him instead and take over. Or someone gets busted and just rats out on all of them.
No one is forcing men to be dicks to each other and to not hang out. The society simply adapted to men being thirsty cucks like they are.
Previous societies worked differently because those were harder times which forced men to cooperate more. Now we live in degenerate times and men are doing what they want and their true nature is coming out.
What the hell has this got to do with what I said? The fact is men can't discuss their personal problems that make them look weak with other men. Whatever the cause of this problems is is irrelevant. Men don't have intimate relationships, they can't openly talk about the kind of problems that make them look weak and lesser men in the eyes of society.
Yeah you can talk about your problems like getting fired or having problems with law with other men, but not about intimate things that make you look less manly or whatever.
Again, what the hell has this got to do with anything I said? Also femcels exists. It simply means female celibate. I never claimed they are involuntary celibate. Besides, I was just making a point that women help their female friends who struggle in dating and will console them. Men mock other men for being virgins, including their friends.
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Then you've never had any real friends, unfortunately. Granted, a lot of the people you meet and call friends are only associating with you for selfish reasons, like access to resources, status, sexual mates, or a new social circle.
Like anything else in life, the things worth doing and worth having are hard to come by. The same goes for friendship. You have to meet and learn about a lot of different people to find a diamond in the rough and separate the fake people from the virtuous ones with principles and integrity.
The thirsty men you describe who would throw you under the bus for a whiff of stacy's thousand cock cave are examples of weak men with no honor, integrity or principles. Those are the type of weak, lowlife beta faggots that will turn on their own blood to improve their lot in life. Someone like that can never be your friend.
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Women have zero depth to to their personalities and therefore can't develop meaningful bonds by default, while some men at least have that capacity. History is riddled with examples of strong bonds that have developed between extraordinary and exceptional men while no one cares about bonds developed between women because, as stated, they have zero depth to their personality and their friendships are equally bland
It's not about only prehistorical, it's about the ancestors of humans as well. Remember Gigantopithecus, a prehistoric ape.
Because it wasn't as simple as climbing trees. Civilization meant forcing ourselves out of our natural environment [tropical rainforests where our nutritious natural food (tropical fruits) resides] so we needed to settle for sub-optimal food (even if that meant long-term health problems). Early hominids as you say, never ate raw meat, they cooked it. If after so many thousands of years the hominids ate raw meat, surely the modern humans would have evolved to be able to digest it.
Raw fish is actually bad for you, even if theoritically you could digest it:
Fish are frequently contaminated with:
- Mercury
- PCBs
- Dioxins
- Pesticides (i.e. DDT)
Sample fish from around the world: 84% of them had unsafe levels of mercury.
Mercury:
- Is a heavy metal
- Is difficult to eliminate
- It can cause problems depending on where it accumulates
If it accumulates in the nervous system it can cause wide variety of neurological problems.
It can accumulate in the actual heart muscle and alter the normal cardiac physiology and conduction.
Mercury can cross the placenta barrier in pregnant women and accumulate in the body of developing fetus. It can cause nervous system damage or other problems in the body of an unborn baby before it's even born.
Meat industries grow cattles to be weak and not exercise. As a result the meat produced is softer than a wild animal's meat.
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The ideal or goal standard diet from a health standpoint remains a whole-food plant based diet which means eating unprocessed or minimally processed vegetables, grains, legumes, fruits and seeds while excluding animal foods like fish.
most male friendships between normal people are based on lower status male licking ass of higher status male and serving him as a slave. Lickers of chad's ass.
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Women value their female friends more than their betabuxxer husbands who they constantly cuck too. Men value their wives more than their friends.
This just proves that female friendships are superior to male friendships, at least in 2019.
You are correct in that female friendships are alot more supportive.
Male friendships are a perpetual pissing contest. Sometimes it's good comradery and women aren't capable of that dynamic but it's mostly rare
Male friendships are a perpetual pissing contest. Sometimes it's good comradery and women aren't capable of that dynamic but it's mostly rare
This sounds to me a lot like bluepilled stuff. Just replace friends with "girlfriends" and it's something a bluepiller would tell you. "Put yourself out there", "you will find somebody", "the men you describe are shallow, they don't represent all men" etc.
Meanwhile I'm basing things on a simple statistical fact that the vast majority of males have no friends. It's actually easier for a man to find a girlfriend in 2019 than it is to find this real meaningful friendship and considering how hard it is to get a girlfriend, this is saying something.
"friendships" are worthless overall. I've had many 'best friends' over the years and guess how many of them still give a single fuck about me? that's right. only your immediate family cares about you, anyone else is pretending
Comradery is a massive cope.
Contrary to people claiming I didn't have friends I actually did have something resembling comradery.
Comradery is this same perpetual pissing contest you talk about but on steroids because now you have an entire group of men competing who is more alpha. Most of this "friendly" banter is such group is just subtle display of dominance, for exampla you're allowed to make this and that jokes about a particular guy who is lower on the hierarchy, but you're not supposed to joke about the alphas of the group, but those alphas make jokes about other guys all the time.
Yeah, those "comrades" will help you out with practical things like in war or other types of situation, but then again you're also helping the group yourself so it's not like they're doing charity work. Those same comrades actually also monitor your life closely and constantly give you shit about things that are not in line with whatever they think it's cool. Or they make a joke out of it like "this guy does this and that" and then you're some sort of meme.
Men then say women's friendships are a "lie" because they just compliment and support each other instead, but then again men's friendhips are also a "lie". So I'd rather prefer the feminine version of friendship then when you're at least encouraging someone else even if you don't really think so but at least it boosts your friend's confidence. Because this is ultimately the point of this overrated concept of friendship, making someone feel good. All this bullshit about friends having to give you "tough love" and be honest is just BS. If you're not capable of being critical of yourself you're already a lost case anyway. I don't need my "friends" to tell me negative shit about me that I already figured out myself.
Lack of friends and support is why suicide rate is high for men getting out of the military or prison and to a lessor extent, men who left college and are now in the work force.
You go from having close "comrades" to a society that treats you like disposable trash.
Male friends in an efficient marketplace (not military or prison or school) pretty much doesn't exist outside of rare exceptions.
The guy who plays the masked darth guy in the latest starwars did a ted talk on this subject.
I think blackpilled men can make great friends but safely finding them irl is simply too hard. The truth is that most men nowadays are soiboys and bluepilled normies who value pussy above everything else, so they betray their "friends" for the slightest chance at female validation, the only men who can make good comrades are either Chads or ones who are blackpilled enough to contain this impulse.
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I concur. Women on average are simply more social. This leads to more friendships in comparison to men.
This pill is hard to swallow.
I originally disagreed with you but I've changed my mind. Fuck humanity.
They can and do, even now in this society which ironically stifles genuine male development and masculinity more than in the past. The issues are the hilariously contradictory pressures being put on young men today, often stemming from those same all-knowing feminine thinkers who pretend to care about male issues only when they can be blamed on the nefarious "patriarchy" or "toxic masculinity", in addition to attempts to feminize/neuter males in the name of empowerment, and I'm sure most of us are aware of how this affects various aspects of mens lives including how they socialise.
Camaraderie and "brotherhood" are things, if they weren't, foids and their geldings wouldn't be trying so hard to destroy any real semblance of it amongst men.
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Don't be fooled by statistics that don't paint the whole picture. Women constantly virtue signal all of the damn time, yet you trust statistics where they answer about their friendships?
And I'm the blue pilled guy?
JFL
Yes, we are...
The bio-availability is way different.
Plants aren't easily digestible by humans, animal products are.
Men don't become friends, they form tribes. It's in our DNA. There's always one tribe leader, usually the tallest out of the group, and then the rest are his allies. Each individual man is valued based on what he contributes to the tribe.
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This, using the mafia as a good example of friendship has to be the most retarded comment i've seen in my life
Brutal ngl. Guess you kinda proved your point
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The amount of times I've been thrown under the bus by my male "friends" because of a woman, their cucked families, and other responsibilities, it's caused me to lose faith in all friendships.
Did you put the boar in trunk? It's a shame if you threw away the perfectly fine pieces of meat.
Cope look up sv3rige on youtube
Call it cope all you want but atleast i'm certain i wouldn't throw a true friend under the bus for all the pussy in the world after years of killing my desire for sexualnd growing resistant to foids' manipulative attempts to orbiter-ify me, altho i will admit OP has a point, people who can do this are rare so it's not unreasonable for you to think i'm lying.
Lifefuel
You are 100% right. This is a hard blackpill to swallow though which is why many people are denying it.
It's very hard to have male friends in a gynocentric society. Their wives isolate them from their male friends, and due to the current state of the sexual market, they view every male as a sexual competitor.
I'm afraid you're the one who's wrong here. Plants contain much more fiber and the pH in our stomach is between 4-5 and therefore designed to digest only plant foods.
Men have it much harder to make friends. But child hood friends or even good friends formed in adult hood can be very good. But for low status men to make friends in adult hood is just imposible. But I think this a problem of the newer generation. Old generation people had such close male friends that they would be ready to do anything for them.
We're not allowed to eat them here, unless you're willing to pay a vet to certify the meat is good and that's quite expensive.
I don't agree.True male friendships can be formed,while women only really fuck eachother over and then bitch about it.
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