SuicideFuel Being a virgin destroys your confidence

[CopingGymcel]

You know you're a complete failure. You're unable to get something as basic and fundamental as sex. You're probably the only sexless guy you know or you're at least certain of. If you know another virgin, you know there is a pretty good reason why (he is probably ugly as fuck). There is no way for you to feel confident in the eyes of women, because you know that you're inferior to other men and that she is analyzing your DNA and deeming it unworthy for reproduction.

Cuck tears tell us to be confident and that's what women like, but you can't be confident when given every reason not to.

 

[Bagelcel]

Confidence/Ntness/Game only applies for those that are in the normie range (4-6) if you're below that range then it won't work for you.
Cucktears tell you to be confident/NT because they expect you to be in the "Normie" range.
It's sad that people under 4/10 aren't even acknowledged at all, and are often written off as "Oh.... you'll erm find someone one day haha....." or "sex isn't everything trust me"

However OP if you ARE infact in that normie range, it's not over for you and you have a much higher chance of ascending than someone that's under a 4/10 overall
If you're under a 4/10, my condolences

 

[Deleted member 60]

legit, and you can't even solve this with escorts bc it makes you feel worse. (That's what I'm assuming anyway)

 

[gstvtrp]

You know you're a complete failure. You're unable to get something as basic and fundamental as sex. You're probably the only sexless guy you know or you're at least certain of. If you know another virgin, you know there is a pretty good reason why (he is probably ugly as fuck). There is no way for you to feel confident in the eyes of women, because you know that you're inferior to other men and that she is analyzing your DNA and deeming it unworthy for reproduction.

Cuck tears tell us to be confident and that's what women like, but you can't be confident when given every reason not to.

 

[Deleted member 5861]

I think that it is just amplified 100x by our culture. Virgin shaming is undoubtedly the biggest form of shaming in western society. You aren't considered a man at all. Everything you say will be dismissed because you are "an angry little virgin loser." Men aren't nearly as ashamed about this in China, for example about my first two statement. Woman are especially hostile towards virgins because of nature (mate copying) and nurture. This is why men should lose their virginity to escorts if they are unable to do it otherwise. At least you can describe what it feels like when people ask you, if they think you are lying. And just say you lost it to a ons.

 

[Deleted member 60]

I think that it is just amplified 100x by our culture. Virgin shaming is undoubtedly the biggest form of shaming in western society. You aren't considered a man at all. Everything you say will be dismissed because you are "an angry little virgin loser." Men aren't nearly as ashamed about this in China, for example about my first two statement. Woman are especially hostile towards virgins because of nature (mate copying) and nurture. This is why men should lose their virginity to escorts if they are unable to do it otherwise. At least you can describe what it feels like when people ask you, if they think you are lying. And just say you lost it to a ons.

facts

 

[CopingGymcel]

I think that it is just amplified 100x by our culture. Virgin shaming is undoubtedly the biggest form of shaming in western society. You aren't considered a man at all. Everything you say will be dismissed because you are "an angry little virgin loser." Men aren't nearly as ashamed about this in China, for example about my first two statement. Woman are especially hostile towards virgins because of nature (mate copying) and nurture. This is why men should lose their virginity to escorts if they are unable to do it otherwise. At least you can describe what it feels like when people ask you, if they think you are lying. And just say you lost it to a ons.

It's funny how they so harshly reject somelike @uninstall and would then call him a creep for being a virgin if they knew.

Foids, you can't deny us sex and then insult us when we end up not getting any.

 

[BansBandit]

Pretty much every normie LARPS about having frequent sex with different chicks too propel their status, in reality the only person truly slaying is CHAD

 

[Deleted member 5861]

Confidence/Ntness/Game only applies for those that are in the normie range (4-6) if you're below that range then it won't work for you.
Cucktears tell you to be confident/NT because they expect you to be in the "Normie" range.
It's sad that people under 4/10 aren't even acknowledged at all, and are often written off as "Oh.... you'll erm find someone one day haha....." or "sex isn't everything trust me"

However OP if you ARE infact in that normie range, it's not over for you and you have a much higher chance of ascending than someone that's under a 4/10 overall
If you're under a 4/10, my condolences

what if the normie guy got no friends to warm approach foids? I'm sure being confident when 4/10 and cold approaching is grounds for sexual harassment if you do it to the wrong feminist.

 

[Bagelcel]

what if the normie guy got no friends to warm approach foids? I'm sure being confident when 4/10 and cold approaching is grounds for sexual harassment if you do it to the wrong feminist.

If you're a 4/10 it's going to be hard and you're going to have to make up for it with alot of NTness/Confidence and have a good circle of friends etc.
Realistically if you wan't to do something like Daygame you need to be atleast a 5 ideally a 6

 

[Modus Coperandi]

Pretty much every normie LARPS about having frequent sex with different chicks too propel their status, in reality the only person truly slaying is CHAD

this
normies with no gf almost never have casual sex.

Back to topic: "just be confident, bro" is complete bullshit. You can only be confident if you experience positive feedback / positive reinforcement
But as incels we never get this feedback. Everything we do is weird simply because we are ugly.
When chad does weird things, he will get positive feedback anyway.
The fucking game is just rigged.

 

[CopingGymcel]

this
normies with no gf almost never have casual sex.

Back to topic: "just be confident, bro" is complete bullshit. You can only be confident if you experience positive feedback / positive reinforcement
But as incels we never get this feedback. Everything we do is weird simply because we are ugly.
When chad does weird things, he will get positive feedback anyway.
The fucking game is just rigged.

They get into relationships and get sex that way. We get nothing.

 

[Modus Coperandi]

They get into relationships and get sex that way. We get nothing.

Yes that's why I explicitly said normies with no gf.
I know that people in relationships fuck like rabbits.

 

[CopingGymcel]

Yes that's why I explicitly said normies with no gf.
I know that people in relationships fuck like rabbits.

Even if a normie goes a full year without sex (relationship), he will just get into a new LTR that lasts for three years, in which at least two of those they will be having sex regularly. We can't even get into relationships.

 

[Deleted member 301]

this
normies with no gf almost never have casual sex.

Back to topic: "just be confident, bro" is complete bullshit. You can only be confident if you experience positive feedback / positive reinforcement
But as incels we never get this feedback. Everything we do is weird simply because we are ugly.
When chad does weird things, he will get positive feedback anyway.
The fucking game is just rigged.

 

[Evildoer]

High IQ post, you can't be confident, when you fail everytime. Redpillers with their "frame holding" are the most pathetic copers there is.

 

[PersonalityChimp]

oh, but i've already lost my virginity. with my hand.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

I think that it is just amplified 100x by our culture. Virgin shaming is undoubtedly the biggest form of shaming in western society. You aren't considered a man at all. Everything you say will be dismissed because you are "an angry little virgin loser." Men aren't nearly as ashamed about this in China, for example about my first two statement. Woman are especially hostile towards virgins because of nature (mate copying) and nurture. This is why men should lose their virginity to escorts if they are unable to do it otherwise. At least you can describe what it feels like when people ask you, if they think you are lying. And just say you lost it to a ons.

just become a soulless shell theory

 

[Shower_Taker]

I think that it is just amplified 100x by our culture. Virgin shaming is undoubtedly the biggest form of shaming in western society. You aren't considered a man at all. Everything you say will be dismissed because you are "an angry little virgin loser." Men aren't nearly as ashamed about this in China, for example about my first two statement. Woman are especially hostile towards virgins because of nature (mate copying) and nurture. This is why men should lose their virginity to escorts if they are unable to do it otherwise. At least you can describe what it feels like when people ask you, if they think you are lying. And just say you lost it to a ons.

Agreed, but honestly paying someone to have sex with you as a last resort would be pretty humiliating for some; at least that's my view. Not because I think prostitution is wrong, and even though sex is a transaction or, at the very least a highly conditional act one way or the other, I just feel that one would reach a new stage of desperation by losing it to a hooker as an adult.

 

[NijuGMD]

Hello! you're actually quite attractive just get yourself out there!!! Try a dating app like Meow Chat or Tinder, some woman will be picky of course but just start out talking about casual stuff and after a week or so and a coffee date you'll have yourself a gf and eventually you may even get some sex. most girls just want a bond first because they are insecure and may feel the same way but all girls are different.

if I got a cookie for every time I hear shit like this, I'd be fatter than your mum

 

[San Salvador]

Why the fuck are there non-virgins on this forum?!!! Fuck off, ungrateful dipshits!!!

 

[NijuGMD]

Eh, it's said so much because its true

true my ass, get out with this bluepill bullcrap

 

[Timecel]

Pretty much every normie LARPS about having frequent sex with different chicks too propel their status, in reality the only person truly slaying is CHAD

 

[FiveFourManlet]

Confidence/Ntness/Game only applies for those that are in the normie range (4-6) if you're below that range then it won't work for you.
Cucktears tell you to be confident/NT because they expect you to be in the "Normie" range.
It's sad that people under 4/10 aren't even acknowledged at all, and are often written off as "Oh.... you'll erm find someone one day haha....." or "sex isn't everything trust me"

However OP if you ARE infact in that normie range, it's not over for you and you have a much higher chance of ascending than someone that's under a 4/10 overall
If you're under a 4/10, my condolences

I have no idea where i fall under, i am 5'4 but with a good face, but 5'4 is just too short to really make up for with anything else e.g face, i think my rating is 3.5/10, whats your opinion?

 

[Timecel]

Hello! you're actually quite attractive just get yourself out there!!! Try a dating app like Meow Chat or Tinder, some woman will be picky of course but just start out talking about casual stuff and after a week or so and a coffee date you'll have yourself a gf and eventually you may even get some sex. most girls just want a bond first because they are insecure and may feel the same way but all girls are different.

you have no idea how dating apps work when you are ugly. Gtfo with your bluepills.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

well, the issue is when you have unrealistic standards and expect to just request sex and get it just be kind and brush your hair maybe wash your face a bit and a lot of women will give you a chance. and maybe not post fortnite victories every day on your profile.

How the fuck did the soyboy hoi polloi get in here?

 

[Ninrod]

You better lose virginity with escorts between age 18 and 19. To avoid this virginity neurosis

 

[Timecel]

well, the issue is when you have unrealistic standards and expect to just request sex and get it just be kind and brush your hair maybe wash your face a bit and a lot of women will give you a chance. and maybe not post fortnite victories every day on your profile.

lol you are cluelese, dont you think most men try?

 

[TheRealChincel]

well, the issue is when you have unrealistic standards and expect to just request sex and get it just be kind and brush your hair maybe wash your face a bit and a lot of women will give you a chance. and maybe not post fortnite victories every day on your profile.

Somebody overdosed on soy today.

 

[JackAutismo]

my mum is dead.

Glad she is, she spawned a really bad soy in you, you degenerate normie cuck.

 

[Izayacel]

Pretty much every normie LARPS about having frequent sex with different chicks too propel their status, in reality the only person truly slaying is CHAD

this

 

[Bagelcel]

I have no idea where i fall under, i am 5'4 but with a good face, but 5'4 is just too short to really make up for with anything else e.g face, i think my rating is 3.5/10, whats your opinion?

You're a 4/10 in the west, you could get a girlfriend but you'd have to be really NT and good at Daygame, and go for very short women (of course don't be that short guy going for tall foids).
Being white and facially GL you'll be a 9/10 in SEA though

 

[FiveFourManlet]

You're a 4/10 in the west, you could get a girlfriend but you'd have to be really NT and good at Daygame, and go for very short women (of course don't be that short guy going for tall foids).
Being white and facially GL you'll be a 9/10 in SEA though

I can be NT once i get TRT therapy, low T is fucking with my social anxiety which would make me fuck up when talking to a foid.

 

[Bagelcel]

I can be NT once i get TRT therapy, low T is fucking with my social anxiety which would make me fuck up when talking to a foid.

High T will likely make you more Low inhib, but ngl to you... Coming on this site and becoming more aware of my insecurities has made me alot less NT/Confident
That could be a Factor.
Before i knew about the blackpill i was able to act NT/confident/Alpha (Fake it) outside my house, but obviously the real insecure me would come out when i get home.
Now i can't even Fake it

 

[FiveFourManlet]

High T will likely make you more Low inhib, but ngl to you... Coming on this site and becoming more aware of my insecurities has made me alot less NT/Confident
That could be a Factor.
Before i knew about the blackpill i was able to act NT/confident/Alpha (Fake it) outside my house, but obviously the real insecure me would come out when i get home.
Now i can't even Fake it

Yeah, blackpill scars you for life, once you know the truth, its an effort to try and forget about it.

 

[th62eathhts2]

I don't buy it. I've seen too many guys my lesser get laid. Whether or not a guy can get laid isn't the measure of his worth. Females aren't even sentient animals, why would i value their opinion.

 

[MaxZM98]

women only care about looks, money and status. if you do not have these, there is nowhere to get confidence from, and females will consider you inferior, unworthy trash. This is the sad state society has descended to, and something HAS to be done about it.

If a man sucks up to his superiors then treats his subordinates like shit - he's unprincipled and untrustworthy. That kind of two faced behavior is generally considered low class and undignified for a man to engage in.
When women do it it's called hypergamy.

 

[Bagelcel]

Yeah, blackpill scars you for life, once you know the truth, its an effort to try and forget about it.

I don't know how i'm going to forget about it, i think once i looksmax i'd be able to ascend if i acted NT/Confident and did enough "Daygame" but i don't know how the fuck i'm going to forget about all this blackpill stuff.
And i don't want to become a "Mentalcel" because of it, cause i feel thats an excuse.

 

[FiveFourManlet]

I don't know how i'm going to forget about it, i think once i looksmax i'd be able to ascend if i acted NT/Confident and did enough "Daygame" but i don't know how the fuck i'm going to forget about all this blackpill stuff.
And i don't want to become a "Mentalcel" because of it, cause i feel thats an excuse.

daygame is cope, only approach women that give you hints, otherwise you will be digging yourself a deeper hole.
just run normie social circle game once looksmaxxed, should be able to find gf, if all fails go thailand

 

[blackcel]

Which is why I escortcel. Confidence level is on par with normies after I have sex. Night and day. Doesn't matter that I paid for it, it seems to fix me at a primal level.

 

[Bagelcel]

daygame is cope, only approach women that give you hints, otherwise you will be digging yourself a deeper hole.
just run normie social circle game once looksmaxxed, should be able to find gf, if all fails go thailand

Thailand doesn't work for curries, only works for whites. I've seen videos of even prostitutes declining curries for service and going to the fat white guy.
i'll be doing normie social game AND daygame, i've seen people with 5-6/10 looks doing fairly okay from daygame

 

[ColdLightOfDay]

Pretty much every normie LARPS about having frequent sex with different chicks too propel their status, in reality the only person truly slaying is CHAD

Cope. Most normies get enough sex for it to not be a problem.

daygame is cope, only approach women that give you hints, otherwise you will be digging yourself a deeper hole.
just run normie social circle game once looksmaxxed, should be able to find gf, if all fails go thailand

Are you gonna go to Thailand? If your only problem is height I don’t see why you wouldn’t, it’s almost a non-factor there.

 

[FiveFourManlet]

Thailand doesn't work for curries, only works for whites. I've seen videos of even prostitutes declining curries for service and going to the fat white guy.
i'll be doing normie social game AND daygame, i've seen people with 5-6/10 looks doing fairly okay from daygame

i think normie social circle game might be better for you

 

[Bagelcel]

i think normie social circle game might be better for you

I'll be doing both because i want to expand my chances by any means necessary, but i need to LowInhibMaxx first before doing any daygame.
Even if i don't get results from daygame, i think it'll grow me as a person too

 

[FiveFourManlet]

I'll be doing both because i want to expand my chances by any means necessary, but i need to LowInhibMaxx first before doing any daygame.
Even if i don't get results from daygame, i think it'll grow me as a person too

T levels maxxing with help with low inhib maxxing

 

[happiless]

The only upside of my 8 years of adult virginity is that my brain has severed the connection between speaking to a foid and sex. I used to get nervous everytime I spoke to a good looking bitch but now it's like speaking to a dude. Still can't approach though since I have a deeply ingrained fear of humiliation.

 

[BansBandit]

Cope. Most normies get enough sex for it to not be a problem.

Are you gonna go to Thailand? If your only problem is height I don’t see why you wouldn’t, it’s almost a non-factor there.

Low IQ only normies getting consistent sex are ones with GF’s those without trying to get with randoms completely fail, my best friend is literal chad-lite and hes still a virgin

 

[Anger]

Water is wet

 

[Anonymous MG]

Water is wet

 

[Ecstasy]

Just be confident, bro!