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As you can tell by my username, this will be a height post. I don’t wanna diminish anybody’s struggles, but I think having a short height is one of the worst things that a guy can have. I’m 168cm. And I’m not gonna grow anymore. Being fat can be fixed. Being a person with an unlikeable personality can be largely fixed by focusing on goal-oriented tasks and gaining a sense of self-confidence and strength of character. Height will always be like this, and there’s nothing in the world I can do about it.

Since this is my first post, I would just like to introduce the fact that I’m a “functional” incel. If someone looked at me or saw how I interacted with people in day-to-day life, it wouldn’t really cross their mind that I would ever be posting on a forum like this (or even have a mindset like this). I just hate being condemned to this short-heighted life. Studies show that height is even more important to women than income. That’s right, you heard that correctly. So even when I try to drown all my insecurities in my uni work and convince myself that I’m doing this to eventually be financially stable and secure, it will still be the case that women will (on average) choose the guy that is taller than me. And being a male born taller than 168cm is not a difficult task, statistically.

Even whilst trying to exercise and gain a better physique, I will always be reminded that no matter how good my body looks, I will never be able to get women like how a 6’3 guy with the EXACT SAME physique would get them (or in many cases, a worse physique). Sure, maybe I could aim for getting shorter women, but looking for women shorter than me certainly decreases the size of the net. It’s almost like it’s developed a complex for me as to what turns me on and what I’m attracted to. Every time I see a really hot girl who’s taller than me, I just get turned off. I realize that no matter what I do, she’s not gonna be interested in me because she’s taller. Who doesn’t love a tall model-type girl with long legs? Everybody does. It’s just the feeling of futility I get that makes me feel shitty and not wanna pursue them in fear of being laughed at by her other hot friends.

What I’m sure many of you short guys are pissed off about (as well as I am) is the constant gas lighting you face when you tell someone about this issue. Pointing out facts and citing studies that support exactly what I’m saying is just called, “not being confident bro”. It takes every ounce of my self-control not to shout at them and say, “It’s got nothing to do with that you fucking moron, it’s just the fact that I can’t help but acknowledge things that are objectively true and have been studied! I’m worse off than other guys and there’s nothing I can do about it!”

My family members will say that I’m a “normal” height, and that everybody else is just a giant. Bull. Fucking. Shit. I’ve visited roughly 10 countries, and in pretty much all of them, people are typically taller than me. What the hell is that supposed to say? I get the retardedly good thing they’re trying to do when they say that stuff to me (which is a weak and vain attempt to try to make me feel better), but all it does is it comes off as insulting. You really think I can’t see that it’s fucking obvious that I’m shorter than the average height? The average height for a male is 176cm, and I’m 168cm. I’m 8cm shorter than the average person. I’m not exactly sure what the value of the standard deviation would be in this instance, but I think it would be safe to say that I’m at the bottom 30% (if not worse). I’m so sick of this bullshit people tell me just to make me feel comfortable. I don’t want comfort, I want solutions. But I never get them. You know why? Because there are none. Height can’t be changed, end of story.

So I would just like to wrap up – I realize that most of what people do on these forums is complain, and I’m here to do the same. But I can’t let this sit with me. My studies and my life have taught me that in order to overcome something, I have to work to find solutions. But what solutions are there to this? The only reasonable thing I’ve heard is to get those elevator shoes that increase your height by a few inches. But the problem with those is that everybody already knows how tall I am, and it would be pretty fucking obvious the next day if people saw me magically gain 5cm in height. It’s just fucking embarrassing and would put the massive insecurity I have with myself on public display (not to mention the fact that I would’ve also wasted roughly 100$). Even if I manage to move somewhere where nobody knows me (and somehow, through some miracle from god, be able to bring a girl home), I’d end up taking off those elevator shoes and the girl would see exactly how fucking short I am. It would be embarrassing in all possible scenarios I can think of.

Any other shortcels here? What are your experiences and responses that people have given you when it comes to this problem? And how do you deal with this problem?
 
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shortcel69420 said:
Any other shortcels here? What are your experiences and responses that people have given you when it comes to this problem? And how do you deal with this problem?
i'm 166-167cm. the average where i live is 180cm. my experiences are what you would expect for a turbo manlet. i don't really talk to people about this issue because they can't relate and would just give me useless advice or gaslight me. the only solution is to get leg lengthening surgery but that cost a shit ton of money and you risk being in a wheelchair for the rest of your life. but its a small risk.
 
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this is the problem

even if you bezos max there is always the dicaprio to mog you into alpha centauri

The only game is finding a non shallow whore, however this is like finding a needle in a very large galaxy like haystack.

try and concentrate on environments that are higher iq and work hard in these environments as these can pay off, low level environments are THAT CENTRAL where LOOKS AND HEIGHT ARE ALL THAT MATTER and no matter how much money and knowledge and skill you gain IT GAINS YOU JACK SHIT IN THEIR EYES YOUR STILL AT 0.000000000000000001 IN THEIR EYES
 
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The same goes for problems with dick and appearance.
Those people are constantly gaslighted by society too.
 
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You seem pretty smart and good writing.. I guess you will have to follow past manlets and try to achieve success in career and business. And maybe betabuxx a woman.

Problem with gymcelling is imo like you said you will always be way less than 6'3 guys and there are tons and tons of those guys. On the other hand people pointed out to me if gymcelling just to be 'in shape' but not trying to beat those other guys that is different.
 
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I want to believe said:
The same goes for problems with dick and appearance.
Those people are constantly gaslighted by society too.
This is the point at which i surmised that by definition humans are mainly corrupt and bent and everything is self interest
when the majority deny Lookism and its all pervasive effect and application THIS IS BY DEFINITION CORRUPT AND BENT
The haves (MORE ATTRACTIVE PEOPLE EG 6+) are simply defending their position against the have nots (eg bottom of the pil under 4s), to maintain their advantage, its straiight up power play.

Society admits that looks are mainly the whole deal, the position of the people at the top of looks crumbles and they cant lean on looks to give them an advantage in EVERY SOCIAL, SEXUAL AND PROFESSIONAL INTERACTION.
 
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160cm on a good day here. :feelsEhh: I mog all of you but in the opposite direction.

shortcel69420 said:
Every time I see a really hot girl who’s taller than me, I just get turned off.
Same here. I could never relate to normies being into tall Stacy model-looking foids. I've always suspected that it was due to them being taller than me. I think there's the same effect as foids being attracted only to taller men, but in the opposite way - they want to feel protected and we want to feel dominant. As a man, it's emasculating and depressing to be in a relationship where you can't be the dominant one.

shortcel69420 said:
elevator shoes
A decade ago I thought about elevator shoes but I knew it was pointless. Wearing tall shoes like a clown just to LARP as someone who isn't a subhuman manlet. Plus, at my height, the kind of shoes I'd need to wear in order to be as tall as a normie would be obvious as fuck.

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Welcome, brocel.

Incline said:
It's true, S @shortcel69420 might want to look into this. As for me, my life is already bad enough; I don't want to ruin it even more by accidentally destroying my legs. Squats are one of the few things I still have left.
 
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WizardofSoda said:
And maybe betabuxx a woman.
betabux != ascension. Also, even success depends on how much of a halo effect you have rather than your actual skills unless you're an entrepreneur/freelancer and don't have to show yourself to the public or clients. It's so demoralizing. :feelsbadman:

shortcel69420 said:
gain a better physique
WizardofSoda said:
gymcelling
You both already understand it's pointless because gymmaxxing doesn't beat tallness, but here's an additional blackpill - beyond a certain threshold, the better your physique looks, the more you'll be accused of having a Napoleon complex and compensating. And the worst part is that they'd be right so there would be no possible rebuttal. At least a stocky bearish look or a slim strength-focused body is fine; it's only when you look more like a bodybuilder - both muscular and skinny - that it gets bad.
 
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Simulacrasimulation said:
This is the point at which i surmised that by definition humans are mainly corrupt and bent and everything is self interest
when the majority deny Lookism and its all pervasive effect and application THIS IS BY DEFINITION CORRUPT AND BENT
The haves (MORE ATTRACTIVE PEOPLE EG 6+) are simply defending their position against the have nots (eg bottom of the pil under 4s), to maintain their advantage, its straiight up power play.

Society admits that looks are mainly the whole deal, the position of the people at the top of looks crumbles and they cant lean on looks to give them an advantage in EVERY SOCIAL, SEXUAL AND PROFESSIONAL INTERACTION.
Yeah, I agree. Well said.
 
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GhostedPhantom said:
unless you're an entrepreneur/freelancer
is the right answer
 
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GhostedPhantom said:
success depends on how much of a halo effect you have rather than your actual skills
Halo effect and reversed halo effect are in force 99% of the time. If you're deemed unattractive by fefails (and normies) no matter what you do, you'll always be considered a "douche", sometimes even a psycho etc. And trying to make friends, connections etc. will make them even more repulsed by you. AAND at the mean time you can be a literal serial killer and as long as you are good looking they'll be attracted to you. :lul::lul::feelsclown::feelsclown: As someone said "you just need some heightfidence and faceonality". Good thing that this clown world will end soon.
 
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eym 2 poor 4 LL

eye joost fantsize a lot about 5h0071n6 tallfags

helps ma cope a lotties
 
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GhostedPhantom said:
betabux != ascension. Also, even success depends on how much of a halo effect you have rather than your actual skills unless you're an entrepreneur/freelancer and don't have to show yourself to the public or clients. It's so demoralizing. :feelsbadman:



You both already understand it's pointless because gymmaxxing doesn't beat tallness, but here's an additional blackpill - beyond a certain threshold, the better your physique looks, the more you'll be accused of having a Napoleon complex and compensating. And the worst part is that they'd be right so there would be no possible rebuttal. At least a stocky bearish look or a slim strength-focused body is fine; it's only when you look more like a bodybuilder - both muscular and skinny - that it gets bad.

Ya it looks tryhard and overcompensating and really to be muscular and skinny it takes steroids which has a ton of problems.
 
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Thailand is the place you need to be. Average height is lower than in the west so you wont have a problem with the women. Phillipines, Indonesia, such countries. South America also
 
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Thailand is the place you need to be. Average height is lower than in the west so you wont have a problem with the women. Phillipines, Indonesia, such countries. South America also
Can you be fine in thailand or the philippines just by speaking english?
 
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Koruga said:
Can you be fine in thailand or the philippines just by speaking english?
I dont know because ive never been there.

Go learn a trade that is online business at some company, start your own business and then move there that way you dont need to look for a job in those places.

Trades like ecommerce, video editing etc these trades are suited to home office work
 
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Strong first and last post:feelsautistic:. Height is law face is cope as everyone on the forum should know by now:blackpill::blackpill:
 
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Luxury said:
Strong first and last post:feelsautistic:. Height is law face is cope as everyone on the forum should know by now:blackpill::blackpill:
Think again pal ;)
 
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There is no peaceful solution to heightism.
 
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Cope. Height doesn't matter.
 
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