Serious Before I rope I could just as well go "all in" with the trading...

[virgin4life]

The way I see it life is not attractive to me the way it is right now. I am going to work each day and do boring repetitive pointless crap. Then I come home and LDAR while reading here on incels.co. I jack off maybe three or four times a day and eat unhealthy shit while getting more and more fat because I see no perspective in anything anymore.

So I have been thinking if I am more or less dying due to weight and sadness anyway I could just as well take a loan of let's say 50K and then carefully invest it. After doubling it I could then pay it back and I will have a nice load of cash to trade with and maybe at least escape from workslaving. This way I could motivate myself to lose weight and get my act together.

And if I fail and I lose the money it wouldn't make much of a difference. I could always continue doing what I do. I would have slightly less cash for copes for a while but those are meaningless to me anyway. I would probably fuck a couple of whores in this case and most likely die in a few years from a heart attack. Since I have a pretty good income of about 3K a month and nothing to spend it on it wouldn't even take decades to pay that money back.

What do you guys think?

 

[Deleted member 19971]

Go for it, there's really nothing to lose if it fails.
Good luck.

 

[Deleted member 22907]

Well, you have nothing to lose. Go for it.

 

[Deleted member 21725]

Do it

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

make sure to know what you put the money in before you take out the loan

 

[FidelCashflow]

If it where that easy then everyone would be doing it

 

[Joelossus]

Do it tbh ( to be honest ) your situation can't get much worse that it is right now anyway. Gl ( good luck ) m8 ( mate )

 

[virgin4life]

If it where that easy then everyone would be doing it

I managed to more than quadruple my 800 Euro balance to 3400. Chances are I could do the same with 50K. I trade very well if I am very careful and only do trades I am 100% certain about with a tight exit strategy. Sometimes one has to wait for weeks before such an oppotunity is coming around. Sometimes you are waiting weeks only to realize you just missed an opportunity and now you'll have to wait for weeks again. But I can be extremely profitable if I am very very careful.

I guess I will first increase my balance further to 10K only to make sure I can do it. Then when I confirm my abilities by doing this I will go for the 50K thing.

 

[FidelCashflow]

I managed to more than quadruple my 800 Euro balance to 3400. Chances are I could do the same with 50K. I trade very well if I am very careful and only do trades I am 100% certain about with a tight exit strategy. Sometimes one has to wait for weeks before such an oppotunity is coming around. Sometimes you are waiting weeks only to realize you just missed an opportunity and now you'll have to wait for weeks again. But I can be extremely profitable if I am very very careful.

I guess I will first increase my balance further to 10K only to make sure I can do it. Then when I confirm my abilities by doing this I will go for the 50K thing.

I might try to stick exchange max myself since it seems like the only possible way I'd ever be able to escape wageslavery.
I once did one of those stock exchange simulations where you get an amount of money and trade in the stock that is the same as irl. I managed to make 400k so I'd imagine I could do well if I had disposable income.

 

[virgin4life]

I might try to stick exchange max myself since it seems like the only possible way I'd ever be able to escape wageslavery.
I once did one of those stock exchange simulations where you get an amount of money and trade in the stock that is the same as irl. I managed to make 400k so I'd imagine I could do well if I had disposable income.

One piece of advice...forget about the simulations. Trading with real money is very very different. I didn't believe this myself before I tried eventhough everyone told me. The thing is...when trading with real money you will have a crazy dopamine rush every time you make a profit. You quickly get addicted to it. You can not imagine how strong this is. It is like a drug bro. Like taking heroin. You will want to make more profit to get more dopamine from your brain and you will get impatient and then you will enter into shitty trades. You will then lose money and since you want another dopamine rush you will do anything to win it back and do even more shitty trades. I spent the entire last year only trying to learn how to fight against my own psychology. Psychology is the one factor that is insanely strong in trading. Hard to imagine before you are doing it.

Second thing is once you trade with real money you will really get into it and learn stuff and do research etc. like you never did before and you will realize that eventhough your strategy seemed profitable it was crap and you will develop a completely different strategy.

So I recommend taking a small amount of cash i.e. a thousand bucks and try trading with real money. It is the only way to learn anything for real.

 

[VirginAutistManlet]

How much interest on these loans? Theyre usually like 15-20% aren't they? what you plan on investing in that will give a higher return than 15-20% just to break even? (not even taking taxes into account)

 

[virgin4life]

How much interest on these loans? Theyre usually like 15-20% aren't they? what you plan on investing in that will give a higher return than 15-20%?

They are dirt cheap right now due to the FED flooding the market with cash. You get a 50 K loan with around 2.5 to 3% of interest where I live. I would be investing in derivates mainly (i.e. options). Here you can make 20% if the market goes up 1%. I have been doing this with real money since last May. After initial success I lost a lot and went down to 800 Euros. Then managed to trade the 800 Euros back up to 3400 Euros so more than quadrupled it within 3 months. If I had 50K I could diversify better (right now I can't due to fixed fees that are killing me). If I manage to quadruple 50K then obviously I will have a good basis for further trading.

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

I managed to more than quadruple my 800 Euro balance to 3400. Chances are I could do the same with 50K. I trade very well if I am very careful and only do trades I am 100% certain about with a tight exit strategy. Sometimes one has to wait for weeks before such an oppotunity is coming around. Sometimes you are waiting weeks only to realize you just missed an opportunity and now you'll have to wait for weeks again. But I can be extremely profitable if I am very very careful.

I guess I will first increase my balance further to 10K only to make sure I can do it. Then when I confirm my abilities by doing this I will go for the 50K thing.

you can do virtual trading as well(fake money)

They are dirt cheap right now due to the FED flooding the market with cash. You get a 50 K loan with around 2.5 to 3% of interest where I live. I would be investing in derivates mainly (i.e. options). Here you can make 20% if the market goes up 1%. I have been doing this with real money since last May. After initial success I lost a lot and went down to 800 Euros. Then managed to trade the 800 Euros back up to 3400 Euros so more than quadrupled it within 3 months. If I had 50K I could diversify better (right now I can't due to fixed fees that are killing me). If I manage to quadruple 50K then obviously I will have a good basis for further trading.

there are good sites with no/tiny fees

 

[virgin4life]

there are good sites with no/tiny fees

Yeah but not in derivate trading. Fees are a big problem due to leverage.

 

[Deleted member 21908]

fuck it. before I considered actually roping I will probably gamble away all my money so I have more incentive to do so

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

Yeah but not in derivate trading. Fees are a big problem due to leverage.

have you checked everything? imo with options the least of your worries is the trading fee

 

[Deleted member 22219]

fuck it. before I considered actually roping I will probably gamble away all my money so I have more incentive to do so

tbh it's not a good idea, jews'll get your money
might as well give it to charity

 

[virgin4life]

have you checked everything? imo with options the least of your worries is the trading fee

The thing is when I buy stock derivates I pay a flat fee of 10 Euros for selling and buying. Now if I invest 500 Euros (just a certain percentage of my account) 20 Euros for buying and selling breaks my neck. If I invest 5K, however, then the 20 Euros are not a problem.

 

[lightskin2thousand0]

imagine being rich and flipping park space for money

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

The thing is when I buy stock derivates I pay a flat fee of 10 Euros for selling and buying. Now if I invest 500 Euros (just a certain percentage of my account) 20 Euros for buying and selling breaks my neck. If I invest 5K, however, then the 20 Euros are not a problem.

again, I wouldn't stress over the fee since whether the trade is good or bad is much higher priority with options. it's not like you're daytrading them.. try finding a good one and do 2k?

 

[virgin4life]

imagine being rich and flipping park space for money

Yeah I thought about that too But what would you do? Get richer and tell your boss to go fuck himself.

again, I wouldn't stress over the fee since whether the trade is good or bad is much higher priority with options. it's not like you're daytrading them.. try finding a good one and do 2k?

I am daytrading them. I look for tiny 0.1% movements in the market and try to leverage them.

 

[Emba]

I'll trade you a fish for a roll of toilet paper.

 

[TheGambler2]

One piece of advice...forget about the simulations. Trading with real money is very very different. I didn't believe this myself before I tried eventhough everyone told me. The thing is...when trading with real money you will have a crazy dopamine rush every time you make a profit. You quickly get addicted to it. You can not imagine how strong this is. It is like a drug bro. Like taking heroin. You will want to make more profit to get more dopamine from your brain and you will get impatient and then you will enter into shitty trades. You will then lose money and since you want another dopamine rush you will do anything to win it back and do even more shitty trades. I spent the entire last year only trying to learn how to fight against my own psychology. Psychology is the one factor that is insanely strong in trading. Hard to imagine before you are doing it.

Second thing is once you trade with real money you will really get into it and learn stuff and do research etc. like you never did before and you will realize that eventhough your strategy seemed profitable it was crap and you will develop a completely different strategy.

So I recommend taking a small amount of cash i.e. a thousand bucks and try trading with real money. It is the only way to learn anything for real.

this,you need to have extremely good will power and self control to be successful

 

[RemoveNormalfags]

I want to try the same tbh, we have nothing to lose, so why not?
Do you have any trading tips or with that do you trade in general?
This is my last chance tbh...

 

[virgin4life]

I want to try the same tbh, we have nothing to lose, so why not?
Do you have any trading guys or with that do you trade in general?
This is my last chance tbh...

I recommend trading with a small amount of cash for a year or so so you get an idea what it is all about. I have nobody trading for me but I read all information I can find on economic data etc.

I will practice a little more to see how good I am at this point. See if I am ready.