I don't agree with that.
The reason we have terms like "kissless virgin" is because kissing isn't sex and there are some people who are virgins who have at least kissed.
The difference here is that kissing is not sex.
There are hugless virgins and virgins who have had hugs, for example.
Obviously those at least able to attain hugs have had more intimate contact than those of us who have not attained hugs.
That does not mean that this place is hugless-only and that we need to exclude people who have had hugs.
That type of shit is just D+C purity spiraling.
I think Colvin that we need to draw a distinction between someone who has had hug/kiss non-sexual intimate experiences being here, vs bragging about it.
Those are entirely different things.
We should not defend bragging, bragging should be condemned, I agree with you about that.
However my reasoning is different. It's not because I think we should exclude people who have had these experiences. I think they belong here too.
I do not think people who have had those experiences are 'fakecels'.
Celibacy most popularly refers to sex, and there are those who get hugs/kisses but not sex, and they belong with us here.
The reason why we condemn bragging like this is basically the same reason why places like wizardchan ban discussion of stuff ban things like saying you even WANT sex.
It has nothing to do with whether or not you are an incel or whether or not you are a virgin/wizard. Instead it has to do with community standards and fostering productive conversations of a certain nature that are undistracted by bragging or whining.
Basically it has to do with respecting other users who don't want to listen to certain types of post because they are rage-inducing.
Having had a hug or kiss from a foid doesn't mean someone doesn't belong on incels.co just like pining for a 3DPD foid doesn't mean someoen doesn't belong on wizardchan.
Such people still belong and are welcome in the communities: but they are intructed to STFU about those particular experiences/feelings due to community consensus regarding what is acceptable topics.
FC and LWC, did you two fellows perhaps mean (but neglected to add) "on the mouth" to your posts?
There are definitely some men who can get kissed on the cheek/forehead by a foid while said foid will utterly reject his cock in all instances.
Even if you do mean OTM, I do not necessarily agree with you.
It is plausible to me (though perhaps rare?) that a foid might be willng to french-kiss a guy for several minutes but still not ever fuck him.
I disagree with this because a foid could simply do this as a joke or to manipulate.
Foids are dishonest all the time, there's no way of knowing she's being honest if she says that.
We have to arbitrarily set a chronological span somewhere. 6 months seems like too little to me. 12 is more ideal, it appeals to me being a complete revolution of the sun.
https://incels.wiki/w/Incel#Definition mentions that 6 months is from the Donnelly study.
https://incels.wiki/w/Donnelly_study was constructed by a foid (Denise Donnelly) so obviously we would expect that number to be low.
6 months is a long time to go without sex for a foid, but it's pretty much par for the course for men.
So it feels right to at least double it to 12 months for our definition.