Basically everyone took a gospel tract today All Glory To God

[Deleted member 24256]

Amen Praise God

 

[Adachi]

Is God all powerful? Is he all loving?

 

[Deleted member 24256]

Is God all powerful? Is he all loving?

Yes

 

[Adachi]

Yes

Then why doesn't he destroy all evil?

 

[Deleted member 24256]

Then why doesn't he destroy all evil?

Bc he needs a filter for humans (i believe)

 

[Adachi]

Bc he needs a filter for humans (i believe)

Then he isn't all loving. Actually, since God created everything he must also have created evil itself therefore God itself is evil.

 

[Deleted member 24256]

Then he isn't all loving. Actually, since God created everything then he must also have created evil itself.

Brother my parents love me but they still punish me when I steal from them.

And God is planning to destroy all evil one day

The story of evil is that 1/3 of God's angels left him bc they didnt like him or sum (i think) and they became demons and The Satan, so even in the most righteous community, people will still go out of their way to created division and evil

 

[WØLF]

Then why doesn't he destroy all evil?

Because he made humans have free will

 

[THE TRUE HONKLER]

Then he isn't all loving. Actually, since God created everything then he must also have created evil itself therefore God itself is evil.

Whats evil to God isn't evil to us and whats evil to us isn't evil to God.

Any way evil exists and was is the definition of good is God and is found within.

 

[Deleted member 24256]

Because he made humans have free will

also true

 

[THE TRUE HONKLER]

Because he made humans have free will

men have free will, soys and foids do not

 

[WØLF]

men have free will, soys and foids do not

Cope. Everyone has free will

 

[THE TRUE HONKLER]

Cope. Everyone has free will

Actually we have no free will, we are but slaves to our biology and what we were born with; we are slaves to the environment to.

 

[Deleted member 24256]

Actually we have no free will, we are but slaves to our biology and what we were born with; we are slaves to the environment to.

Cope

 

[Numb]

Actually we have no free will, we are but slaves to our biology and what we were born with; we are slaves to the environment to.

Take the brainchemicalpill


Holding a cold drink vs a hot drink has been proven enough to change what decisions you make throughout the day, influencing and manipulating your mind. We truly do not have free will

 

[THE TRUE HONKLER]

Cope

Its one core tenant of the blackpill you cuck

 

[Adachi]

Brother my parents love me but they still punish me when I steal from them.

And God is planning to destroy all evil one day

The story of evil is that 1/3 of God's angels left him bc they didnt like him or sum (i think) and they became demons and The Satan, so even in the most righteous community, people will still go out of their way to created division and evil

If there's one thing I've learned from programming, it is that a function cannot exist if it isn't programmed in it and if there's unintended issues, they're fixed. If God hadn't created evil then the Angel's wouldn't have sided with Satan.

Because he made humans have free will

Then God isn't all loving.

 

[WØLF]

Actually we have no free will,

Cope. We have physical free will. I could go ER right now if I wanted to. That's free will

we are but slaves to our biology and what we were born with; we are slaves to the environment to.

Brutal, I agree with this part

 

[Deleted member 24256]

If there's one thing I've learned from programming, it is that a function cannot exist if it isn't programmed in it and if there's unintended issues, they're fixed. If God hadn't created evil then the Angel's wouldn't have sided with Satan.

Then God isn't all loving.

"if you love something set it free" how is God not all loving for giving us free will
The greatest thing you can do for your child is to give them a choice

Take the brainchemicalpill


Holding a cold drink vs a hot drink has been proven enough to change what decisions you make throughout the day, influencing and manipulating your mind. We truly do not have free will

My environment tells me to indulge in hedonism yet i dont
The holy spirit can rid you of any fleshly influences/desires

 

[WØLF]

Its one core tenant of the blackpill you cuck

Yeah, the geneticspill is literally one of the first things you learn when you take the blackpill

 

[THE TRUE HONKLER]

"if you love something set it free" how is God not all loving for giving us free will
The greatest thing you can do for your child is to give them a choice

So if my son wanted to kill himself and an orphanage you just let him?

When God is present people do not do such things, but it isn't free will because people must submitt to God who is greater than them.

 

[Adachi]

"if you love something set it free" how is God not all loving for giving us free will
The greatest thing you can do for your child is to give them a choice

How can God set us free but then require us to follow his will? And if we don't follow it we're condemned to eternal hell, how's this loving? Don't you see the irony?

 

[Irredeemable]

You will never solve the epicurean paradox

 

[Deleted member 28903]

Then he isn't all loving. Actually, since God created everything he must also have created evil itself therefore God itself is evil.

Define loving

 

[WØLF]

Then God isn't all loving.

It is true that if God created evil it would make Him a bad God. But this is not the case. Evil came as a result of sin, and sin is something that God did not want in the universe. Unlike many religions, Christianity recognizes that evil does exist. The Bible, in both testaments, acknowledges that the world is presently in an evil state.

However, the origin of evil lies not with God but with humanity. When God created human beings He gave them a choice to obey or disobey. When Adam and Eve chose to disobey God they brought evil into the universe. Evil is an action or relationship, not a created substance.

One passage of Scripture seems to teach that God created evil. Isaiah 45:7 reads the following.

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace and create evil: I the Lord do all these things

However this is not what the original Hebrew says. The word translated "evil" is the word ra. It also means sorrow, calamity, disaster, afflictions, and adversity. Modern translations have correctly translated the passage with a different English word such as the following example.

I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things (Isaiah 45:7).

Therefore the Scriptures do not teach that God was the originator of evil.

God gave humanity choice. God did not create evil and neither is He to blame for the evil in the universe. God could have made people in such a way that they would be robots who would react when God made them do so. But that would not give humanity any significance. God decided to make people in such a way that they could choose whether or not to obey Him.

Furthermore, much of the evil in the universe is due to the direct choice of individuals. Murder, stealing, lying, and such cannot be blamed upon God. People choose to do these things and must be held accountable.

 

[Adachi]

Define loving

I'm going to answer that question with another question. If I were to hand a kid a candy then warn the kid that the candy is poisonous and I'll have to leave to run an errand but come back to the kid dead. Am I loving?

Love is something hard to define generally as we all have differentiating opinions on it but I'm pretty sure universally I would be condemned. This is basically God summarized.

It is true that if God created evil it would make Him a bad God. But this is not the case. Evil came as a result of sin, and sin is something that God did not want in the universe. Unlike many religions, Christianity recognizes that evil does exist. The Bible, in both testaments, acknowledges that the world is presently in an evil state.

However, the origin of evil lies not with God but with humanity. When God created human beings He gave them a choice to obey or disobey. When Adam and Eve chose to disobey God they brought evil into the universe. Evil is an action or relationship, not a created substance.

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If there's one thing I've learned from programming, it is that a function cannot exist if it isn't programmed in it and if there's unintended issues, they're fixed.

Then God isn't all powerful nor all loving. Read my analogy with the kid and the candy, I believe this will do justice for you.

Almost any adult can create a much better perfect world than the one we have, hell I'd say even some kids can do what God had failed.

 

[WØLF]

I'm going to answer that question with another question. If I were to hand a kid a candy then warn the kid that the candy is poisonous and I'll have to leave to run an errand but come back to the kid dead. Am I loving?

Candy is attractive to children, living a sinful and hedonistic life that is absent of God and being damned to burning in eternal hellfire isn't appealing. You can save yourself at any age, it literally only benefits you in the end. Better to be safe then sorry.

 

[Adachi]

Candy is attractive to children, living a life without God and being damned to burning in eternal hellfire isn't appealing. You can save yourself at any age, it literally only benefits you in the end. Better to be safe then sorry.

My analogy was in reference to the forbidden apple. I already anticipate that you'll say something along the lines of "but Satan tempted them", then answer me this. Why couldn't God destroy Satan? Why couldn't God destroy the forbidden tree? I thought God was all powerful.

 

[Deleted member 28903]

I'm going to answer that question with another question. If I were to hand a kid a candy then warn the kid that the candy is poisonous and I'll have to leave to run an errand but come back to the kid dead. Am I loving?

Love is something hard to define generally as we all have differentiating opinions on it but I'm pretty sure universally I would be condemned. This is basically God summarized.

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Then God isn't all powerful nor all loving. Read my analogy with the kid and the candy, I believe this will do justice for you.

Almost any adult can create a much better perfect world than the one we have, hell I'd say even some kids can do what God had failed.

Really long cope. Just define loving.

 

[THE TRUE HONKLER]

Really long cope. Just define loving.

Love is doing the best for something/one a group of people.
What is best is what is good and what is good is what creates and is sustainable. bad things are NEVER sustainable.

Love is doing what will last forever because what is good is sustainable,

 

[Adachi]

Really long cope. Just define loving.

The only one coping here is you with religion. I'm not gonna define love because as I've stated we all have different opinions on what is love and I feel answering this will pave way for a strawman arguement which I don't want to focus on. My point is that even though love is defined differently throughout cultures, creeds and ethnicities, I would be universally condemned.

 

[Deleted member 28903]

The only one coping here is you with religion. I'm not gonna define love because as I've stated we all have different opinions on what is love and I feel answering this will pave way for a strawman arguement which I don't want to focus on. My point is that even though love is defined differently throughout cultures, creeds and ethnicities, I would be universally condemned.

Well, for one, your comparison was shit. And, also, if you cannot even define "loving" how can you say God is definitely not loving?

 

[Capable_Onion]

The greatest thing you can do for your child is to give them a choice

High IQ, most atheist's just can't come to this conclusion

 

[XANDIARIES]

Because he made humans have free will

 

[Deleted member 24256]

High IQ, most atheist's just can't come to this conclusion

Amen brother God Bless you

 

[Adachi]

Well, for one, your comparison was shit. And, also, if you cannot even define "loving" how can you say God is definitely not loving?

If you're going to criticize my comparison, perhaps some insight would have been useful. In regards to defining love, as I've stated I don't want it to be the focus because it will become a strawman arguement.

 

[Deleted member 24256]

If you're going to criticize my comparison, perhaps some insight would have been useful. In regards to defining love, as I've stated I don't want it to be the focus because it will become a strawman arguement.

Brother I hope one day that you can follow Jesus

 

[Capable_Onion]

Amen brother God Bless you

 

[Deleted member 28903]

If you're going to criticize my comparison, perhaps some insight would have been useful. In regards to defining love, as I've stated I don't want it to be the focus because it will become a strawman arguement.

Why? I haven't made any statements which are based on a definition of love. You have. If you want to say something has or lacks a certain quality, you must be able to define that quality.

A strawman doesn't require your input, or even your presence. By definition, it's quite the opposite. This makes me think you don't even understand what a strawman is.

 

[BrazilianLambda]

Cope

You preach about your imaginary mythological sky being and yet reject the harsh reality of biology by calling it 'cope'. Do you really NOT see the irony?

 

[Deleted member 24256]

You preach about your imaginary mythological sky being and yet reject the harsh reality of biology by calling it 'cope'. Do you really NOT see the irony?

im too lazy to reply u gotta repent bro

 

[Adachi]

Brother I hope one day that you can follow Jesus

Jesus, the one who had disobeyed his father's commandments by not stoning the whore? You have to know that even the modern bible is heavily unreliable as much has been misinterpreted and lost in translation right?

Why? I haven't made any statements which are based on a definition of love. You have. If you want to say something has or lacks a certain quality, you must be able to define that quality.

A strawman doesn't require your input, or even your presence. By definition, it's quite the opposite. This makes me think you don't even understand what a strawman is.

First of all defining love wouldn't assist in this argument, why? Because when I was speaking about love, I was speaking about it in the context of biblical literature. Defining love in my own terms would do a disservice as I define it in a different manner thus paving the way for a strawman, do you understand me?

It seems you don't understand me.

 

[Deleted member 28903]

Jesus, the one who had disobeyed his father's commandments by not stoning the whore? You have to know that even the modern bible is heavily unreliable as much has been misinterpreted and lost in translation right?

First of all defining love wouldn't assist in this argument, why? Because when I was speaking about love, I was speaking about it in the context of biblical literature. Defining love in my own terms would do a disservice as I define it in a different manner thus paving the way for a strawman, do you understand me?

It seems you don't understand me.

JFL. Define "loving" in the context of Biblical literature then. Also, define strawman too.

 

[Adachi]

JFL. Define "loving" in the context of Biblical literature then. Also, define strawman too.

“This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers and sisters. If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person? Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth” (1 John 3:16-18).

In regards to strawman, strawman is defined as
"A straw man is a form of argument and an informal fallacy of having the impression of refuting an argument, meanwhile the proper idea of argument under discussion was not addressed or properly refuted"

By covetting me to define love in my definition, you're not focusing on the arguement at hand as it never was taken into account.

 

[NirvanaFan1988]

God is too lenient, in his place I would destroy this fucking soy planet.

 

[FlamingCel]

Then why doesn't he destroy all evil?

Boyo we are exiles.We were in heaven and sinned and became human as punishment.This world is a prison and that's why we are stuck with evil and unfairness.It will be destroyed soon.Thats why christ came to reconcile our good and bad side into one new creation