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Discussion Based Benatar Speaks About Male Rights & Discrimination In His Book

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David Benatar (the Antinatalist philosopher) wrote a book called "The Second Sexism". He talks about discrimination against men and boys in there. He's a hero for men. Not a simp for foids and roasties, like everyone else in academia.
 
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That's just a painting of hobbes
 
Yes i read that one! He is a fucking based antinatalist philosophy professor, a men's rights activist, AND skewered Peterson over his religious cuckery:


View: https://youtu.be/2mGV9ZoEYUA?si=HhSqXA1qWrpIiFgg


Wish he was even more high profile and debating feminists and breeders on tv
 
Very good, he destroyed peterson
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Philosophy is retarded. If you are not a moral objectivist then you are retarded. If you are not a thiest then you are retarded.

Armchair philosophers need jobs and meaning. You cant get it by sitting there and thinking about it. Truth is evident. All the philosophy we need is able to be observed in the material world around us.
 
Philosophy is retarded. If you are not a moral objectivist then you are retarded. If you are not a thiest then you are retarded.

Armchair philosophers need jobs and meaning. You cant get it by sitting there and thinking about it. Truth is evident. All the philosophy we need is able to be observed in the material world around us.
Science is what observes and explains the material world around us.
 
Science is what observes and explains the material world around us.
This view is incorrect. There is any number of things that science cannot prove. Among them:

1. The laws of logic or mathematical truths. The natural sciences presuppose logic and math, but they cannot prove them.
2. Metaphysical truths. Science can’t prove the external world is real or that the universe did not simply spring into existence five minutes ago complete with the appearance of age, including our memories of a past that never happened. These are rational beliefs, but they cannot be proven scientifically.
3. Statements of an ethical nature. Science cannot show that helping a starving child is good or whether Nazi scientists in concentration camps did anything evil. Good and evil cannot be measured in a laboratory, and so moral principles lie beyond what science can prove. That includes a principles used in science itself, such as, “It is wrong to fake your research findings.”

This is not reddit my nigga, you cant get away with saying that here.
 
The reason male rights never take off is because other men don't want you to have rights.
 
This view is incorrect. There is any number of things that science cannot prove. Among them:
Science relies on observation and evidence. Ethical questions are up to philosophy to find and answer.
 
Science relies on observation and evidence. Ethical questions are up to philosophy to find and answer.
So you have just admitted science can not prove everything.
 
So you have just admitted science can not prove everything.
Absolutely not. There is somethings we will never know. And using religion to answer those questions is incredibly illogical. The God of the gaps fallacy is an argument from ignorance.
 
So you have just admitted science can not prove everything.
I never said science can prove everything, I said we can use it to learn more about and explain the world around us.
 
Philosophy is retarded. If you are not a moral objectivist then you are retarded. If you are not a thiest then you are retarded.

Armchair philosophers need jobs and meaning. You cant get it by sitting there and thinking about it. Truth is evident. All the philosophy we need is able to be observed in the material world around us.
theists are retards they lack the capacity to think for themselves
they are not moral agents in charge of their own destiny, they are soycucks huffing the blue pilled morality of an abrahamic god they dont even properly follow.
 
theists are retards they lack the capacity to think for themselves
they are not moral agents in charge of their own destiny, they are soycucks huffing the blue pilled morality of an abrahamic god they dont even properly follow.
Very true. There's not even good premises and arguments to come to the conclusion that God exists
 
Very true. There's not even good premises and arguments to come to the conclusion that God exists
its not objective because you follow someone elses subjective morality. they are just taking shit on word of an institution that offers no credible evidence
 
its not objective because you follow someone elses subjective morality. they are just taking shit on word of an institution that offers no credible evidence
Most people are born into "their religions". They rarely if ever choose to follow it.
 
Most people are born into "their religions". They rarely if ever choose to follow it.
exactly.. what a coincidence you are born in to religion that you say has the objective truth:feelshehe:
okay buddy
 
I never said science can prove everything, I said we can use it to learn more about and explain the world around us.

theists are retards they lack the capacity to think for themselves
they are not moral agents in charge of their own destiny, they are soycucks huffing the blue pilled morality of an abrahamic god they dont even properly follow.
You have no 'self discovered morality'. Everything you have is a derivative of your flawed nature or your shitty environment. Existentialist retardation. Your assertion is the same as a teenage white girl who just decides to 'follow her heart' and whore out.
 
You have no 'self discovered morality'. Everything you have is a derivative of your flawed nature or your shitty environment. Existentialist retardation. Your assertion is the same as a teenage white girl who just decides to 'follow her heart' and whore out.
nature is flawed, its why you arent a perfect copy of your siblings. i do believe however that everything that exists even our nature is a result of evolution.

morality is a natural consequence of being in large groups. religion is also a natural consequences. look up evolutionary psychology and it will make more sense to you. objective morality is just you shifting the rule making to a God that holds you at gun point to follow his rules.its like following a king that holds your family hostage.

without hell as a motivator would you even follow these moral values? if you are a decent person, you'd say ofc because you understand that without morality, society decays to degeneracy. women lack a sense of moral agency which means they allow this societal degeneracy to exist like homosexuality. you're on the same level as women

you cant be a moral agent and claim to have objective morality, by not determining your own morality, you arent making any choices. if your religion had some degenerate things like no foreskin, you'd probably hop on.

you religitards are not really making your own choices so i dont value your input.
 
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nature is flawed, its why you arent a perfect copy of your siblings. i do believe however that everything that exists even our nature is a result of evolution.

morality is a natural consequence of being in large groups. religion is also a natural consequences. look up evolutionary psychology and it will make more sense to you. objective morality is just you shifting the rule making to a God that holds you at gun point to follow his rules.its like following a king that holds your family hostage.

without hell as a motivator would you even follow these moral values? if you are a decent person, you'd say ofc because you understand that without morality, society decays to degeneracy. women lack a sense of moral agency which means they allow this societal degeneracy to exist like homosexuality. you're on the same level as women

you cant be a moral agent and claim to have objective morality, by not determining your own morality, you arent making any choices. if your religion had some degenerate things like no foreskin, you'd probably hop on.

you religitards are not really making your own choices so i dont value your input.
We need a dictator. No one is really moral at all. Morality needs to be forced into people.
 
We need a dictator. No one is really moral at all. Morality needs to be forced into people.
i see your point, most people require a sense of enforcement and having a strong dictator could help create a period of stability.
think of japan's edo period. a period of strong cultural enforcement that propagates far beyond that.
we are taught its a bad thing but honestly a just ruler would be good however i dont have faith in the idea that a human being could remain being uncorrupted.

how do you plan to solve the corruption issue.
 
i see your point, most people require a sense of enforcement and having a strong dictator could help create a period of stability.
think of japan's edo period. a period of strong cultural enforcement that propagates far beyond that.
we are taught its a bad thing but honestly a just ruler would be good however i dont have faith in the idea that a human being could remain being uncorrupted.

how do you plan to solve the corruption issue.
Yeah, propaganda is a good form of psychological rule over people. Of course, there exists a risk that someone may get corrupted by their power.
 
Yeah, propaganda is a good form of psychological rule over people. Of course, there exists a risk that someone may get corrupted by their power.
you are never going get rid of corruption. your system is idealized unless its an immortal being.
 
The necessity of religion arises to deceive and delude people
how are you gonna reasonably prevent a sort of animal farm situation where corruption trickles until it becomes a flood.
 
nature is flawed, its why you arent a perfect copy of your siblings. i do believe however that everything that exists even our nature is a result of evolution.

morality is a natural consequence of being in large groups. religion is also a natural consequences. look up evolutionary psychology and it will make more sense to you. objective morality is just you shifting the rule making to a God that holds you at gun point to follow his rules.its like following a king that holds your family hostage.

without hell as a motivator would you even follow these moral values? if you are a decent person, you'd say ofc because you understand that without morality, society decays to degeneracy. women lack a sense of moral agency which means they allow this societal degeneracy to exist like homosexuality. you're on the same level as women

you cant be a moral agent and claim to have objective morality, by not determining your own morality, you arent making any choices. if your religion had some degenerate things like no foreskin, you'd probably hop on.

you religitards are not really making your own choices so i dont value your input.
First of all you have no idea why I am a Christian so how dare you assert any assumption regarding why it is I believe what I believe.

The argument ''well if your God did xyz, you would follow!''. He doesn't. Christianity is a logical path. Your 'what ifs' arnt valid because they don't exist.

Do not assert your asumption that I am motivated by fear. As Christians we are called to suffer, we are called to Martydom, and we are instructed to do so purely in love. Christianity demands suffering, it demands a full realization of reality, however harsh and cruel it may be, and an acceptance of an objective truth. We do not do it because we expect something in return or out of fear. I would like to hear you say this to a schema monk who has given his life to prayer and a martyrdom where the body does not die.

Your 'discover your own morality' is choosing morality none the less. It expresses a value judgment—what one should choose to believe—and that puts in in the realm of ethics and morals, not a lack of, which we have already seen that your biased social sciences or soy reddit psychology cannot verify. Without the ability to do an experiment verifying or falsifying the truth of this moral claim, there is no scientific proof.
 
Your 'discover your own morality' is choosing morality none the less. It expresses a value judgment—what one should choose to believe—and that puts in in the realm of ethics and morals, not a lack of, which we have already seen that your biased social sciences or soy reddit psychology cannot verify. Without the ability to do an experiment verifying or falsifying the truth of this moral claim, there is no scientific proof.
nah nigga, what social sciences do you think i follow, im born with a sense of empathy, compassion that allow me to develp a sense of guiding principals, that get honed because of interacting with other people during childhood. you christcucks act as if the before your jew religions that there were no moral beings. if anything your god is a piece of shit through and through.

morality is a journey conducted by yourself and society, societies evolve, like right now the meta is that dating below 18 is bad, slavery is bad .killing babies is bad. if you actually look at the bible you'll see your so called upstanding christian and jewish predescessors were doing all that nasty shit. look at what happened in the city of jericho, nigga explain to me how babies is deserving of death.

why do you need verification? you know it in your heart if something is immoral immediately and you learn something is immoral based on further thought. you act like only atheists participate in the act of philosphy, every human being is crafting their own sense of morality and philosophy and if that werent true, we'd be a hivemind.

The argument ''well if your God did xyz, you would follow!''. He doesn't. Christianity is a logical path. Your 'what ifs' arnt valid because they don't exist.
here is a quick test, if you were at the city of jericho and god told you to slaughter that baby would you?
 
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