Ban Discussion Megathread

[catfishman23]

he was a larping Chadlite that just couldn't stop bragging

why did he accuse me of being mgtow?

 

[KilluminoidBR]

I could see how Weed, VST, and whogivesafucc (all 5-6)

VST and whogivesafuc 5-6/10????

Learn how to rate man, lol.

whogivesafuc is chadlite tier (7/10) and VST aint nothing bellow 6.5/10.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

VST and whogivesafuc 5-6/10????

Learn how to rate man, lol.

whogivesafuc is chadlite tier (7/10) and VST aint nothing bellow 6.5/10.

There's nothing outstandingly wrong with Gives (i.e. obviously not truecel-tier), but he's definitely not a Chadlite. That's already around 90th percentile attractiveness. His FWHR isn't all that good (fairly long midface + narrow skull), his jaw isn't especially strong, and his forehead is rounded and small relative to the rest of his face. Seems to be around 5.5-6.

It's hard to tell exactly what VST is from a profile shot and a 45° pic with his jaw turned up, but it seems like he's around 6/10, maybe 6.5. He's probably the mogger of the infamous trinity.

 

[KilluminoidBR]

There's nothing outstandingly wrong with Gives (i.e. obviously not truecel-tier), but he's definitely not a Chadlite. That's already around 90th percentile attractiveness. His FWHR isn't all that good (fairly long midface + narrow skull), his jaw isn't especially strong, and his forehead is rounded and small relative to the rest of his face. Seems to be around 5.5-6.

Seriously you MUST BE an Lookism.net autist to think that whogivesafuc has average looks.

whogivesafuck looks are good enought to SLAY. AVERAGE looking man (5.5/10) CANNOT slay, unless they are whites (depending on the geographic location) or very talls, like 6 foot in Brasil. whogivesafuck is only 1 PSL point bellow Orb who is a known 8/10 solid chad.

Or you dont even leave your house. One of the two.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

Seriously you MUST BE an Lookism.net autist to think that whogivesafuc has average looks.

whogivesafuck looks are good enought to SLAY. AVERAGE looking man (5.5/10) CANNOT slay, unless they are whites (depending on the geographic location) or very talls, like 6 foot in Brasil. whogivesafuck is only 1 PSL point bellow Orb who is a known 8/10 solid chad.

Or you dont even leave your house. One of the two.

5.5-6 is not exactly average - the sizes of deviations in a population index like this are the largest as the rating initially moves away from 5 and lessen in magnitude near the tails. Assume ratings are normally distributed (among the youth anyway - it is back-loaded once you consider that most people 30+ get damaged variously by diet, ionizing radiation, and venereal disease).

In my own ratings, I consider 6/10 to be around 75th percentile, which is around where I'd put Gives. 7/10 is around 90th, 8/10 around 98th, 9/10 exceptionally rare - about 3 SD.

Gives would get mogged many times a day, every day, on any college campus. Nobody at the 75th percentile (high-tier normie) slays on looks alone.

@ "muh 5/10 JBWhite slayer". 5/10 is 5/10. 8/10 is 8/10. Race, as it correlates with matters of purely esthetic phenotype like eye area and nose architecture, can be figured directly into a looks rating as, to restate the issue, race and looks are inseparable when it is exactly their nexus which we are interested in. I'd say that a 50th percentile White is probably comparable to a 60th percentile Ethnic in terms of their absolute appeal to foids, i.e. there's not even a full point of difference if the populations were evaluated separately.

 

[KilluminoidBR]

Gives would get mogged several times a day, every day, on any college campus. Nobody at the 75th percentile (high-tier normie) slays on looks alone.

No, if you are WHITE and your face is 6/10, you are perfectly able to slay on LOOKS ALONE if you are living in a multiracial country (as Brasil, Bolívia, México or USA). Of course you must be NT and functional in society.

80% of the slayers that i knew IRL in my life were not chads, they were 5' 8" - 5' 11" 6/10 looking NT white guys. I live in the west side of Rio de Janeiro, Brasil. And when i say slay i do not mean 5/10 girls and bellow, i mean 6/10 girls and above. They could pick up 7/10 black and mixed females.

I know PERSONALLY an 5' 4" white manlet with an 7.5/10 face dating and 6.5/10 girl with a TOP TIER BODY. I can give you pics if you want.

But i can see that you clearly believe in retarded basement dweller theories (Sub8 law), so thats nothing i can do because mods here do not allow me to create my thread putting down this shit.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

No, if you are WHITE and your face is 6/10, you are perfectly able to slay on LOOKS ALONE if you are living in a multiracial country (as Brasil, Bolívia, México or USA).

I tacked on an addendum to my post explaining my position on this. I've never been to Brazil, but this is absolutely not the case anywhere I've ever been in the United States. Now, I'm not going to try to invert the issue and claim "JBE" or some other kind of stupid cope, but attractive is attractive, ugly is ugly, mediocre is mediocre (=ugly to foids). I barely ever see WMEF couples and when I do, the foid is usually below the man's looksmatch.

Of course you must be NT and functional in society.

No disagreement here. 5+/10 can do decently with a social circle. The closer to 5 they are, the cockier they'll be about it.

80% of the slayers that i knew IRL in my life were not chads, they were 5' 8" - 5' 11" 6/10 looking NT white guys. I live in the west side of Rio de Janeiro, Brasil. And when i say slay i do not mean 5/10 girls and bellow, i mean 6/10 girls and above. They could pick up 7/10 black and mixed females.

I won't contest this either. Most of the slayers I've ever come across were sub-6-foot and slightly above average. Issue is, this set of attributes needs to come together with hyper-NT in order to be viable. Whatever you want to say about Gives, spending 75% of the day here probably indicates that he wasn't perfectly NT. Slaying on looks alone requires that you be 8+/10.

I know PERSONALLY an 5' 4" white manlet with an 7.5/10 face dating and 6.5/10 girl with a TOP TIER BODY. I can give you picks if you want.

Yeah, the biggest slayer at my high school was a 5'3" Mexican dicklet. He was also one of the cockiest faggots I've ever met. Doesn't prove any particular rule (Just Be A Short, Ethnic Gymcel Theory).

But i can see that you clearly believe in retarded basement dweller theories (Sub8 law), so thats nothing i can do because mods here do not allow me to create my thread putting down this shit.

I don't even have a basement available to me. I spend more time outside than I'd like to.

 

[happiless]

Holy shit that's VST? Literally Chad. Lmao glad he's gone. Never liked him

 

[Lord Byron]

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For some reason the idea of being unpopular here and nobody telling me really hurts.

 

[Ritalincel]

LetJerryCanDanGo

 

[Insalsa]

Why was @jerrycan dan permed?

 

[Ryo_Hazuki]

Why was @jerrycan dan permed?

I can't tell if he was trying to get banned or just trying to poison the well.

 

[UltraFayJr.]

I could see how Weed, VST, and whogivesafucc (all 5-6) could end up incel, but not this guy. Depending on what's behind the paint, that's probably the closest to a Chad we've had here.

Regardless, he's still an incel if he's somehow actually involuntarily celibate - and it doesn't look like he ever claimed otherwise.

VST and whogivesafuc 5-6/10????

Learn how to rate man, lol.

whogivesafuc is chadlite tier (7/10) and VST aint nothing bellow 6.5/10.

There's nothing outstandingly wrong with Gives (i.e. obviously not truecel-tier), but he's definitely not a Chadlite. That's already around 90th percentile attractiveness. His FWHR isn't all that good (fairly long midface + narrow skull), his jaw isn't especially strong, and his forehead is rounded and small relative to the rest of his face. Seems to be around 5.5-6.

It's hard to tell exactly what VST is from a profile shot and a 45° pic with his jaw turned up, but it seems like he's around 6/10, maybe 6.5. He's probably the mogger of the infamous trinity.

Seriously you MUST BE an Lookism.net autist to think that whogivesafuc has average looks.

whogivesafuck looks are good enought to SLAY. AVERAGE looking man (5.5/10) CANNOT slay, unless they are whites (depending on the geographic location) or very talls, like 6 foot in Brasil. whogivesafuck is only 1 PSL point bellow Orb who is a known 8/10 solid chad.

Or you dont even leave your house. One of the two.

5.5-6 is not exactly average - the sizes of deviations in a population index like this are the largest as the rating initially moves away from 5 and lessen in magnitude near the tails. Assume ratings are normally distributed (among the youth anyway - it is back-loaded once you consider that most people 30+ get damaged variously by diet, ionizing radiation, and venereal disease).

In my own ratings, I consider 6/10 to be around 75th percentile, which is around where I'd put Gives. 7/10 is around 90th, 8/10 around 98th, 9/10 exceptionally rare - about 3 SD.

Gives would get mogged many times a day, every day, on any college campus. Nobody at the 75th percentile (high-tier normie) slays on looks alone.

@ "muh 5/10 JBWhite slayer". 5/10 is 5/10. 8/10 is 8/10. Race, as it correlates with matters of purely esthetic phenotype like eye area and nose architecture, can be figured directly into a looks rating as, to restate the issue, race and looks are inseparable when it is exactly their nexus which we are interested in. I'd say that a 50th percentile White is probably comparable to a 60th percentile Ethnic in terms of their absolute appeal to foids, i.e. there's not even a full point of difference if the populations were evaluated separately.

No, if you are WHITE and your face is 6/10, you are perfectly able to slay on LOOKS ALONE if you are living in a multiracial country (as Brasil, Bolívia, México or USA). Of course you must be NT and functional in society.

80% of the slayers that i knew IRL in my life were not chads, they were 5' 8" - 5' 11" 6/10 looking NT white guys. I live in the west side of Rio de Janeiro, Brasil. And when i say slay i do not mean 5/10 girls and bellow, i mean 6/10 girls and above. They could pick up 7/10 black and mixed females.

I know PERSONALLY an 5' 4" white manlet with an 7.5/10 face dating and 6.5/10 girl with a TOP TIER BODY. I can give you pics if you want.

But i can see that you clearly believe in retarded basement dweller theories (Sub8 law), so thats nothing i can do because mods here do not allow me to create my thread putting down this shit.

I tacked on an addendum to my post explaining my position on this. I've never been to Brazil, but this is absolutely not the case anywhere I've ever been in the United States. Now, I'm not going to try to invert the issue and claim "JBE" or some other kind of stupid cope, but attractive is attractive, ugly is ugly, mediocre is mediocre (=ugly to foids). I barely ever see WMEF couples and when I do, the foid is usually below the man's looksmatch.



No disagreement here. 5+/10 can do decently with a social circle. The closer to 5 they are, the cockier they'll be about it.



I won't contest this either. Most of the slayers I've ever come across were sub-6-foot and slightly above average. Issue is, this set of attributes needs to come together with hyper-NT in order to be viable. Whatever you want to say about Gives, spending 75% of the day here probably indicates that he wasn't perfectly NT. Slaying on looks alone requires that you be 8+/10.



Yeah, the biggest slayer at my high school was a 5'3" Mexican dicklet. He was also one of the cockiest faggots I've ever met. Doesn't prove any particular rule (Just Be A Short, Ethnic Gymcel Theory).



I don't even have a basement available to me. I spend more time outside than I'd like to.

 

[Leucosticte]

I can't tell if he was trying to get banned or just trying to poison the well.

Technically, child porn isn't illegal, since as the dissent in Osborne v. Ohio noted, the statutes criminalizing it conflict with the First Amendment, which is part of the supreme law of the land. Therefore, discussions of it would not count as illegal discussion. It's actually the government that is violating the law by throwing people in prison for those offenses.

 

[Darthmat]

I can't tell if he was trying to get banned or just trying to poison the well.

Undercover cop.
Nice catch should of stayed hunting on darkweb.

 

[everythingislava]

I can't tell if he was trying to get banned or just trying to poison the well.

Huh, this is a tough one. His ban appeal makes me feel bad for him but then again I'm not quite sure if I can believe that it was just a joke based on that last sentence because that would've been really unnecessary if it was just a joke.

Is it really possible to be stupid enough to think that telling people to send CP wouldn't result in a high warning?

 

[Deleted member 3291]

Technically, child porn isn't illegal, since as the dissent in Osborne v. Ohio noted, the statutes criminalizing it conflict with the First Amendment, which is part of the supreme law of the land. Therefore, discussions of it would not count as illegal discussion. It's actually the government that is violating the law by throwing people in prison for those offenses.

lmao coming from you hahahahaa

 

[13k]

After having a discussion with the rest of the moderator team, we agreed to undelete this post and remove this warning.

I don't think your post was out of line or against the rules expressly. There was a hint of misinformation but to me it sounds more like hyperbole. Let me explain as best I can.

From what I know, traffic is not a measuring stick for this site. Serge is losing money by hosting this site, ads or not. That was always the case and never the motivation behind hosting it. Traffic at its current rate, to my knowledge, is not a factor in our "success." Our success, in my opinion and if I can speak for the rest of the moderation team, is providing an active community for any man who identifies as incel, as long as they don't break our common sense rules.

VST was a frequent sore spot for us. The moderation team debated what is "fair" many times concerning him. One member of the team had brought up evidence that we were too lenient on him, as well as his pattern of violation, and from that point onward we unilaterally agreed to be more strict with his conduct. That is what led to his ban not long after.

If you consider the volume of complaints/reports we get on a regular basis, many of which are based on personal vendettas (as @RageAgainstTDL recently mentioned in a thread relevant to moderation, in response to @fukmylyf ) then you have to accept that while we are doing our best to enforce the rules fairly, there may be cases of people skirting the rules or people who are unpopular or people who superficially may seem like a "fakecel" but we can only fairly action based on their posts on the site, while considering the personal vendettas that may be at play. In other words, we try to enforce equally as best as a group of individuals united by a codex can. We are usually more concerned with being TOO strict, and we self-regulate internally a lot, whether it is through discussions about specific cases or about overarching rules (I recently brought up @Anger 's suggestion to punish "fakecel" behavior more harshly as one example, another would be the reversal of your ban and the undeletion of the post I am responding to). We aren't perfect, but we truly feel that we do have the community's best interests in mind.

If you think that you can do a better job, no one is stopping you, and in previous discussions with the moderation team here, we have agreed that the more sites, the more niches for incels of all persuasions, the better. If you think we can do a better job, suggest a concrete set of rule changes or suggestions that we can follow, because that is the only metric by which we normally operate. There are users we ALL don't like - but we also remind ourselves that this is not unexpected given that we run an incel site. We are a community of unlikable people. Unless they directly break the rules, they don't get banned for simply being unlikable. As such, people you may think are "fakecels" are still here; meanwhile, other users may dislike you or your posts and that doesn't factor into your presence or absence here as well. At the end of the day, we have to take people at their word that they are incels, because while we do filter shitty applications, instaban obvious trolls and braggarts, etc. we cannot ban people who may just rub off the wrong way. Just to be clear, VST was not one of those cases. That was a situation of someone abusing the moderation system we have in its inherent leniency with expiring warnings, which MANY users (and many of whom I am sure you consider to be "truecels" or at least good members) benefit from.

Your suggestion (a permanent warning) was discussed among the moderation team. We also discussed other alternatives, and settled on one that we use for frequent violators. It has yielded results.

To summarize, I would like to say that we appreciate constructive feedback and we do our best to keep moderation equal, fair, and standardized, so I don't think we deserve the hyperbole you are presenting here as a long-time member.

The above are all my personal thoughts, except when I refer to conferences between myself and the rest of the moderation team.

That post was reply to knajid trying to be funny.
I don't base being a good moderator on traffic and message count. He said my opinion shouldnt be taken seriously because of my past moderation.

How was I a bad mod on .org ?
I didn't sell incels out for admin status. I banned non virgins, trolls, doxxers whenever I saw them.
Valuing quality over is quantity is bad moderation and "failure" ??
Not selling community out and turning a blind eye to non-incels registering on .org is bad moderation ???
I could've easily stayed there as admin there if I didnt tell the owner it'd never work out with him and pressure him to sell me the forum.

In fact, me not being an admin there anymore shows I didnt give up the principles for an admin title.

 

[retarded_dumbshit]

How was I a bad mod on .org ?

wasnt there some sort of power struggly? jl. how does that even happen

 

[13k]

wasnt there some sort of power struggly? jl. how does that even happen

it went like this

>he contacts me via reddit saying he will open a new forum and ask if I can help
>i say i could help, BUT make myself very clear about fakecels. he AGREES
>I do help him out, start the forum (but he owns it)
>then he starts whoring the forum to normies and advertise it on r/cringeanarchy, r/tinder etc..
>unbans sex havers that I banned, wants to let people who dont even consider themselves incel in
>tell him to give me a reasonable price for the forum cos it would never work out me and him together

I wanted a decent actual involuntary celibate forum
a throwback to origins like puahate, that's what I had in mind
not an incels.is-rejects forum.

when I was there only kointo and nausea was banned from here.
we didnt post there because we were exiled from here.

 

[knajjd]

snip

i fear that you must convince your own mod team of that first before us, just as you tried to convince them to nuke the forum entirely after they told you to go away because you were doing a very good job at its administration, but let us not derail this topic. i merely wanted to poke you back since you poked me first, don't take it too seriously.

 

[13k]

i fear that you must convince your own mod team of that first before us, just as you tried to convince them to nuke the forum entirely after they told you to go away because you were doing a very good job at its administration, but let us not derail this topic. i merely wanted to poke you back since you poked me first, don't take it too seriously.

1- I didn't need to convince anybody, the other admin got deadmined while he was deleting ours posts, couldnt even get the chance
2- I told feminism to delete the themes since it was all our work. That's what I had asked him. deleting themes isnt deleting the forum.

 

[Leucosticte]

People just didn't know how to take Zesto's comments in the proper spirit. He was just reminding everyone that weeb stuff is a cope to serve all purposes. So for example, if someone said, "I've had a bad day; I feel like roping" and he responded by talking about his waifu, that was to remind everyone that in the larger picture, weeb stuff is the solution to everything.

 

[Gremlincel]

People just didn't know how to take Zesto's comments in the proper spirit. He was just reminding everyone that weeb stuff is a cope to serve all purposes. So for example, if someone said, "I've had a bad day; I feel like roping" and he responded by talking about his waifu, that was to remind everyone that in the larger picture, weeb stuff is the solution to everything.

Jesus Christ, you're a weeb too, of all people?

 

[Deleted member 10124]

People just didn't know how to take Zesto's comments in the proper spirit. He was just reminding everyone that weeb stuff is a cope to serve all purposes. So for example, if someone said, "I've had a bad day; I feel like roping" and he responded by talking about his waifu, that was to remind everyone that in the larger picture, weeb stuff is the solution to everything.

Lol. He's got me going now. Going to Japanmax brah. He may have a point.

 

[Luxity]

People just didn't know how to take Zesto's comments in the proper spirit. He was just reminding everyone that weeb stuff is a cope to serve all purposes. So for example, if someone said, "I've had a bad day; I feel like roping" and he responded by talking about his waifu, that was to remind everyone that in the larger picture, weeb stuff is the solution to everything.

High IQ

 

[Jazavac]

People just didn't know how to take Zesto's comments in the proper spirit. He was just reminding everyone that weeb stuff is a cope to serve all purposes. So for example, if someone said, "I've had a bad day; I feel like roping" and he responded by talking about his waifu, that was to remind everyone that in the larger picture, weeb stuff is the solution to everything.

This. In my short time here, Zesto was my favourite poster, his posts about his waifu always brought a smile to my face. Seeing someone so positive these days feels like seeing an oasis in a desert.

 

[Deleted member 3291]

People just didn't know how to take Zesto's comments in the proper spirit. He was just reminding everyone that weeb stuff is a cope to serve all purposes. So for example, if someone said, "I've had a bad day; I feel like roping" and he responded by talking about his waifu, that was to remind everyone that in the larger picture, weeb stuff is the solution to everything.

posting about going to japan and finding a gf is not weeb stuff, that is yellow fever overdrivu.

 

[Themisterpepsi]

if someone said, "I've had a bad day; I feel like roping" and he responded by talking about his waifu, that was to remind everyone that in the larger picture, weeb stuff is the solution to everything.

That's exactly what I want to hear when Im having a bad day
Someone talking about wanting to fuck their waifu for the 14th time that day

 

[Leucosticte]

That's exactly what I want to hear when Im having a bad day
Someone talking about wanting to fuck their waifu for the 14th time that day

Well he did take your concerns to heart and offer to give you a break for 30 days.

 

[Themisterpepsi]

Well he did take your concerns to heart and offer to give you a break for 30 days.

Arigato @Zesto

 

[notafed]

Holy shit that's VST? Literally Chad. Lmao glad he's gone. Never liked him

yeah, always seemed like a larper

 

[UltraFayJr.]

Undercover cop.
Nice catch should of stayed hunting on darkweb.

Being an undercover cop and having your only job be using incels.is actually doesn't sound all that bad.

 

[notafed]

Undercover cop.
Nice catch should of stayed hunting on darkweb.

probably just IT trying to get screencaps

 

[Luxity]

probably just IT trying to get screencaps

You lost your loli halo and I hate it tbh

 

[notafed]

You lost your loli halo and I hate it tbh

elab

 

[Luxity]

elab

Make your avi a k-on girl again

 

[notafed]

Make your avi a k-on girl again

No it's my guy

 

[Luxity]

Anime girl AVIs are for the weak and pathetic. I'd never resort to such unoriginality and mediocrity, ever.

You had an anime avi bro...

 

[Luxity]

It's not an anime girl avi, so my point is still valid.

 

[Insalsa]

It's not an anime girl avi, so my point is still valid.

Are you constantly stalking this thread?

 

[Evil Genius]

Undercover cops lmao

I'm so done.

 

[notafed]

Undercover cops lmao

I'm so done.

shut the fuck up

 

[Deleted member 13256]

187 on an undercover cop.

 

[notafed]

damn E @eaglemaster was banned quick who was he haha i was about to report his bluepilled post

 

[Hunter]

3

 

[knajjd]

damn E @eaglemaster was banned quick who was he haha i was about to report his bluepilled post

it was not an alt. it was a random.

 

[notafed]

it was not an alt. it was a random.

oh
how could u tell it was a cuck so quickly godspeed

 

[knajjd]

oh
how could u tell it was a cuck so quickly godspeed

it was a female. they are an absolute triviality to root out thanks to the vetting system.

 

[notafed]

it was a female. they are an absolute triviality to root out thanks to the vetting system.

vetting system?
what's the whole story of eagles ban? how do you know she was from reddit?