JFL Atheists are mostly ugly incel men

[Fontaine]

To care about deep intellectual issues, you need to be introverted / ugly.

Chads and Stacies are too busy enjoying their lives. They'll usually prefer heresy and sin to overt atheism, because they don't want to devote brainpower to all this complicated shit.

Yet, atheism is actually the worst belief to endorse as an ugly man. Atheism is self-cuckoldry. I'm ready to debate with atheists on this.

 

[TheGoat]

Religion is self-cuckoldry. You’re living your life in a way that’ll please the magic sky daddy so you eternal peace in afterlife that we aren’t sure that it even exist.

 

[Anonymous MG]

Atheism is usually the stage when you realize that everything you've been taught is ridiculous, typically around 13-16. Before you realize that religion is more spiritual than factual, most people use religion as lifefuel as you can view based on how they use it in everyday situations. They're typically more depressed, but I have yet to find a direct correlation between looks and atheism.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Religion is self-cuckoldry. You’re living your life in a way that’ll please the magic sky daddy so you eternal peace in afterlife that we aren’t sure that it even exist.

I that's too broad a statement.

 

[Evildoer]

I have yet to find a direct correlation between looks and atheism.

Could be very good potential research for blackpill, tbh tbh.

 

[Fontaine]

Religion is self-cuckoldry. You’re living your life in a way that’ll please the magic sky daddy so you eternal peace in afterlife that we aren’t sure that it even exist.

The point of religion isn't actually belief. It's social organization.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

I actually see religion as a mental illness.

If an adult strongly beliefs in Santa Claus or the Tooth fairy he would be ridiculed, when in fact there is no difference between those two and religion, they´re all imaginary.

Religion =

 

[Fontaine]

I actually see religion as a mental illness.

If an adult strongly believed in Santa Claus or the Tooth fairy he would be ridiculed, when in fact there is no difference between those two and religion, they´re all imaginary.

Cope. Religion is there to serve a psychological and social purpose. Belief is secondary.

 

[towncel]

I actually see religion as a mental illness.

If an adult strongly believed in Santa Claus or the Tooth fairy he would be ridiculed, when in fact there is no difference between those two and religion, they´re all imaginary.

Except theism is based on humans not wanting to stubbornly believe there is no higher power and searching for an answer to what created the universe and the things in it

 

[DrunkDegenerate]

Can't disagree with the fact that to care about those issues you indeed need to be introverted or ugly. After all, why would one think when he is living a hedonistic life? (Great social life, good food, pleasurable sex, status, etc...).
And, while the entire idea of us being put on this earth simply to be tested by a higher entity seems appealing, I don't think it is true.
Fontaine, do you believe in Christianity? Well, if so, a question that always arose to me is, what makes you think religion X is true and religion Y is false?
Besides, I don't think that a being that was clever enough to create such a great universe would care too much about such petty beings as us on a certain planet (who knows, perhaps there are aliens in other solar systems?) and even if such a being does exist, I think it is foolish to claim that a book can truly depict it's complexity.
Maybe god exists, maybe he doesn't, and maybe he is just completely different than what we expect (most logical option).
Pascal's wager is a risk I am willing to take, as currently the favors point that god doesn't exist, at least not as described by the bible or any other holy books.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Or you could just call it a strawman + black and white fallacy? ?

Yes, it was mostly a strawman. Not all religions are focused on winning God's approval. But as the OP already mentioned, the one thing they have in common is trying to achieve a social objective, or a set of them.

 

[DrunkDegenerate]

I actually see religion as a mental illness.

If an adult strongly beliefs in Santa Claus or the Tooth fairy he would be ridiculed, when in fact there is no difference between those two and religion, they´re all imaginary.

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You are very ignorant. While I think religion (especially organized) is bullshit, one must not deny the important part it had in shaping modern civilization, and helping shape and enforce the current family structure.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

Cope. Religion is there to serve a psychological and social purpose. Belief is secondary.

Religion is for mentally ill sheep that can´t think for themselves. And yes psychologically it´s a big cope for religious people because they just can´t stand when a loved one dies that they will never see them again, and they need to believe that there is something after death because they need that to cope with the fact that life just ends. It´s no different to when you swap a fly or kill a chicken, they´re all living beings but relgious people don´t believe the fly or chicken get into heaven or hell according to if they have sinned or not. Religon is the biggest cope there is and if a person beliefs in religion they are the ultimate sheep.

 

[Fontaine]

Fontaine, do you believe in Christianity?

I believe that Christianity was the greatest system of thought and action ever invented for the benefit of ugly, timid and weak men. Christianity completely inverted the normal social hierarchy to the benefit of sub5 men. In the Middle Ages, chadly princes were forced to kiss the feet of ugly, near-sighted incel bishops.

The existence of God is a secondary question. One just can't look at the history of Christian civilization and dismiss the miracle it was for sub5 men.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

You are very ignorant. While I think religion (especially organized) is bullshit, one must not deny the important part it had in shaping modern civilization, and helping shape and enforce the current family structure.

Have I denied that? No I haven´t. OP didn´t ask about if it ever had an important role to play in the creation of society, you just brought that up. It probably has played a role at least in creating the current family structure.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

Religion is for mentally ill sheep that can´t think for themselves. And yes psychologically it´s a big cope for religious people because they just can´t stand when a loved one dies that they will never see them again, and they need to believe that there is something after death because they need that to cope with the fact that life just ends. It´s no different to when you swap a fly or kill a chicken, they´re all living beings but relgious people don´t believe the fly or chicken get into heaven or hell according to if they have sinned or not. Religon is the biggest cope there is and if a person beliefs in religion they are the ultimate sheep.

Considering that I believe nonexistence is better than existence, the thought of an afterlife or reincarnation is actively discomforting to me. So that alone proves this can't be universally true.

 

[BridgeJumper]

incels are more likely to talk about it. Chads dont care about debating religion online, just because we dont see Chads talking about it doesnt mean there isnt Chad Atheists. lets be real tho, Chads are less likely to be pseudo-intellectuals who think Atheism is the only option.

 

[Evildoer]

If an adult strongly beliefs in Santa Claus

Well, i see you don't. You're wrong then.

 

[DrunkDegenerate]

I believe that Christianity was the greatest system of thought and action ever invented for the benefit of ugly, timid and weak men. Christianity completely inverted the normal social hierarchy to the benefit of sub5 men. In the Middle Ages, chadly princes were forced to kiss the feet of ugly, near-sighted incel bishops.

The existence of God is a secondary question. One just can't look at the history of Christian civilization and dismiss the miracle it was for sub5 men.

Yes, but so are other religions. Islam is a great example of this, and I think it has benefited ugly and weak man much more than any other religion, by making a truly patriarchal system of thought and action, don't you agree?

Have I denied that? No I haven´t. OP didn´t ask about if it ever had an important role to play in the creation of society, you just brought that up. It probably has played a role at least in creating the current family structure.

I think the purpose of this thread was not to try and laugh at those that do not believe in god, as I think OP is not that much a believer himself, but rather ridicule the usual fedora-tipping atheists that think they are intelligent by defying religion, not realizing that by denying the existence of a god, and by spitting on past religions and ways of thought, they directly help feminism, hypergamy and matriarchy to flourish.
While I don't believe in the bible, I do think that we should keep the faith alive and not try to step on the already dying campfire so to speak...
Most of the religious people defy and don't like the current direction the west, heck the entire world, is heading towards. Like us, they despise degeneracy and hedonism, as well as complete loss of basic values, and I think by truly working together, rather then against one another we might actually succeed in stopping, or at least slowing down the decline of society.

 

[Fontaine]

I think the purpose of this thread was not to try and laugh at those that do not believe in god, as I think OP is not that much a believer himself, but rather ridicule the usual fedora-tipping atheists that think they are intelligent by defying religion, not realizing that by denying the existence of a god, and by spitting on past religions and ways of thought, they directly help feminism, hypergamy and matriarchy to flourish.
While I don't believe in the bible, I do think that we should keep the faith alive and not try to step on the already dying campfire so to speak...
Most of the religious people defy and don't like the current direction the west, heck the entire world, is heading towards. Like us, they despise degeneracy and hedonism, as well as complete loss of basic values, and I think by truly working together, rather then against one another we might actually succeed in stopping, or at least slowing down the decline of society.

You've got it.

 

[Deleted member 236]

Christoper Hitchens was a pretty good looking guy. Despite taking awful care of himself.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

Considering that I believe nonexistence is better than existence, the thought of an afterlife or reincarnation is actively discomforting to me. So that alone proves this can't be universally true.

So because you don´t believe it, it suddenly is "proof" that it isn´t universally true?

Humans just have such high self-awareness that they think that it´s impossible that life can´t be just over after ones death, religion is just a by product of high self-awareness and narcissism; because a human can´t comprehend the world without themselves in it because to ourselves we are the whole world. That is why when we are deeply depressed and suicidal we will feel like the world is over, and it is because it´s our existence that is about to end thus making us think the world is actually over and it is, our world, our existence. And this is where narcissism plays a big role because, since our own existence is so important to ourselves. Religious people are so desperate to continue their lives probably a somewhat survival instinct too, that they have come up with this "great" cope that there is an after life or reincarnation when in fact there isn´t it´s just an extremely desperate attempt to hold on to life either within themselves or to the ones they love because they can´t stand the fact that they will never see their loved ones ever again.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

So because you don´t believe it, it suddenly is "proof" that it isn´t universally true?

Well, yes. If it were, I wouldn't believe it, hence "universally".

Humans just have such high self-awareness that they think that it´s impossible that life can´t be just over after ones death, religion is just a by product of high self-awareness and narcissism; because a human can´t comprehend the world without themselves in it because to ourselves we are the whole world. That is why when we are deeply depressed and suicidal we will feel like the world is over, and it is because it´s our existence that is about to end thus making us think the world is actually over and it is, our world, our existence. And this is where narcissism plays a big role because, since our own existence is so important to ourselves. Religious people are so desperate to continue their lives probably a somewhat survival instinct too, that they have come up with this "great" cope that there is an after life or reincarnation when in fact there isn´t it´s just an extremely desperate attempt to hold on to life either within themselves or to the ones they love because they can´t stand the fact that they will never see their loved ones ever again.

You do realize there are/have been several religions which have assigned a negative value to life, yes? But I understand what you're saying, it's just that as a sentient being, trying to imagine nonexistence is counter-intuitive. On the other hand though, saying you can 100% discount even the possibility of an afterlife is just completely wrong.

 

[spicycurry]

Most chads I know usually identify as Christian or Muslim.

Most atheist dudes I know like some of my friends get no action. Particularly if the atheist is a ethnic male, then they are screwed. Ex Muslim guys I know are all virgins yet cannot get an a arranged marriage. I think they will turn back to Islam since they do not really hate the religion.

 

[_incelinside]

Religion is better for society overall I agree.

 

[Indari]

 

[TheGoodGuy]

On the other hand though, saying you can 100% discount even the possibility of an after life is just completely wrong.

I think I will just leave it here, I actually never debate since I don´t believe in politics, I don´t believe a person can change anyone´s mind, people are very narcissistic in their beliefs, myself included.
I have that mind-set that either you believe what I believe or you are against me. i.e. you´re a sheep if you don´t believe what I believe. Because it´s the truth!

 

[Deleted member 8353]

I think I will just leave it here, I actually never debate since I don´t believe in politics, I don´t believe a person can change anyone´s mind, people are very narcissistic in their beliefs, myself included.
I have that mind-set that either you believe what I believe or you are against me. i.e. you´re a sheep if you don´t believe what I believe. Because it´s the truth!

I think you're projecting. I've never claimed to know anything for certain, which has been precisely my point. I'm not even religious.

 

[KingOfRome]

Ugly men quickly turn to nihilism, i.e. atheism brought to its logical conclusion. After all, it's easier to believe there is no purpose at all, than to believe your miserable, impotent life is part of a grand heavenly design.

What most people don't know, because they were bluepilled on Christianity like they were bluepilled on everything else, is that God doesn't give a shit about anyone who isn't a real Christian. Atheists, Jews, Muslims, Catholics, etc. are all doomed to eternal hellfire at the Almighty's pleasure. Incels are cursed both in this life and in the hereafter. We are our mothers' punishments for their wretched sinful lives.

 

[Redpill Robert]

I've always hated atheists -- or to be more specific, "outspoken" atheists (kind of an oxymoron as criticizing "religion, maaan..." is about as mainstream as it gets if we're talking about the under 35 crowd). By and large it's really just a form of virtue signalling specifically for neckbeards. I'm not religious myself, but I don't really care if someone else is or not at long as they keep their shit to themselves.

Many if not most Chads/Stacies are Christians. Now, they of course fall short of what a Christian is supposed to be with all the hedonism and what not, but it was often what they were raised as and as you said they'd rather not actually sit down and think about it (or anything "deep" really). Frankly I can't say I really blame them. From what I've seen even they laugh at atheists though (theyve become hip to the fedora stereotypes and all that) long ago.

On a side note most Americanized Chaddams are the same; they say they're Muslim because that's how their conservative upper class family raised them but they engage in as much degeneracy as they can. Anyhow if any of those Atheist neckbeards were to somehow get attention from any "Christian" slut Stacy they'd burn all their stupid Richard Dawkins books in a heartbeat I promise you.

 

[Colly]

Atheism is literally just not believing in the existence of god(s) unless scientific evidence proves otherwise, which part of that definition says you have to go full aspie and devote your life or any amount of brainpower to it? As a non-believer of Santa Claus, how much time do you spend thinking about how you've behaved to not make the naughty list? As an atheist, I haven't given a single fuck about religion since I was a kid and it hasn't impacted my life in any way. It's only a deep intellectual issue to you because you're naturally a theist or you were brainwashed to become one as a kid. For you, trying to disprove religion is like a psychopath trying experience emotions.

 

[_wifebeater_]

Atheism is highIQ.

 

[TheGoodGuy]

I think you're projecting. I've never claimed to know anything for certain, which has been precisely my point. I'm not even religious.

I know you didn´t, it´s clear to see you´re more objective. I just mean in people general are narcissistic in their beliefs e.g. politics they won´t change their minds about that.

I can easily see that you just are trying to debate objectively on the fact.

 

[Fontaine]

Atheism is literally just not believing in the existence of god(s) unless scientific evidence proves otherwise,

"Scientific evidence" doesn't mean anything, as evidenced by the controversy surrounding social sciences or psychiatry (how do you "scientifically define" a mental illness).

Atheists believe intellectual thought started with Bacon and empiricism... They'd do well to open a history book, or read Joseph de Maistre's rebuttal to "science".

Basing your worldview on a few high school chemistry courses is no way to go through life...

 

[Deleted member 8353]

I know you didn´t, it´s clear to see you´re more objective. I just mean in people general are narcissistic in their beliefs e.g. politics they won´t change their minds about that.

I can easily see that you just are trying to debate objectively on the fact.

This is probably true for the most part. I think some people just get more and more entrenched in their own beliefs when brought to question them by another person, or something of importance to them. Others can change their beliefs dramatically, but over the course of a long period of time.