grondilu
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This sentence in the title is quoted from the 1986 paper called "Compulsive Thalamic Self-Stimulation : a Case with Metabolic, Electrophysiologic and Behavioral Correlates". It's easy to find on the web if you search that exact title.
I think that sentence illustrates very well the power of addiction. Addicts know very well that they should not indulge in their addiction, but they can't help themselves. At times, when their compulsion is the lowest, they use that moment of lucidity to demand from others that their future behavior be restricted.
It's an old concept. In antiquity already, it was known that sometimes men must refrain their own behavior in order to avoid succumbing to an hedonistic trap.
I know, it's something that is difficult for us incels to even comprehend. One could even argue that it's an even worse take on the old "sex is not even that great, you inkvel", as it basically says that not only sex is not great, but that it's even bad.
And yet, there is this experiment. There is this woman who was given the ability to stimulate the pleasure center in her brain at will. And that ability basically ruined her life. Not because she hated it, but because she loved it too much.
Hedonism is a trap.
It's like they say in the twelve step programs : "We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable."
Addicts seem to be incapable of controlling their behavior, when at the same time they're aware of the detriment effects of such behavior.
I know, you guys are probably going to shout "shut the fuck up, I want to fall in this trap. Give me a prime jb every day, and let me get addicted to it, I don't care, it can't possibly be worse than the hell I'm currently in." I hear you, but I still think it's something worth keeping in mind. Let me go on.
Here is an other take, courtesy of a prominent YouTuber in the manosphere :
IMHO the important part in this story, assuming it's not larp, is that the female knows what she's doing is wrong, but she doesn't know how to stop and considers seeking therapy. To me, it sounds very similar to that female self-stimulating her thalamus and demanding that people prevent her from doing so. In fact, one could argue that since sex is so easy to get for females, there is not that much of a difference : Tinder is after all a device that you operate with a finger, just like the thalamus-stimulating device in the experiment. Tinder is just less efficient so there is a longer time between the time the female swipes right and the moment Chad knocks at her door, but it's still free and the result is almost certain, just as the brain-stimulating device.
I'm not saying sex is bad, or that virgin guys are actually blessed. I'm saying that sex is an ordeal, as dealing with sex withdrawal can be brutal.
That being said, involuntary sexual abstinence is hell, I know. The unsatisfied curiosity alone will devour you inside. Yet I think it can be a bit of a relief to know that having sex would come with its own problems.
I think that sentence illustrates very well the power of addiction. Addicts know very well that they should not indulge in their addiction, but they can't help themselves. At times, when their compulsion is the lowest, they use that moment of lucidity to demand from others that their future behavior be restricted.
It's an old concept. In antiquity already, it was known that sometimes men must refrain their own behavior in order to avoid succumbing to an hedonistic trap.
I know, it's something that is difficult for us incels to even comprehend. One could even argue that it's an even worse take on the old "sex is not even that great, you inkvel", as it basically says that not only sex is not great, but that it's even bad.
And yet, there is this experiment. There is this woman who was given the ability to stimulate the pleasure center in her brain at will. And that ability basically ruined her life. Not because she hated it, but because she loved it too much.
Hedonism is a trap.
It's like they say in the twelve step programs : "We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become unmanageable."
Addicts seem to be incapable of controlling their behavior, when at the same time they're aware of the detriment effects of such behavior.
I know, you guys are probably going to shout "shut the fuck up, I want to fall in this trap. Give me a prime jb every day, and let me get addicted to it, I don't care, it can't possibly be worse than the hell I'm currently in." I hear you, but I still think it's something worth keeping in mind. Let me go on.
Here is an other take, courtesy of a prominent YouTuber in the manosphere :
IMHO the important part in this story, assuming it's not larp, is that the female knows what she's doing is wrong, but she doesn't know how to stop and considers seeking therapy. To me, it sounds very similar to that female self-stimulating her thalamus and demanding that people prevent her from doing so. In fact, one could argue that since sex is so easy to get for females, there is not that much of a difference : Tinder is after all a device that you operate with a finger, just like the thalamus-stimulating device in the experiment. Tinder is just less efficient so there is a longer time between the time the female swipes right and the moment Chad knocks at her door, but it's still free and the result is almost certain, just as the brain-stimulating device.
I'm not saying sex is bad, or that virgin guys are actually blessed. I'm saying that sex is an ordeal, as dealing with sex withdrawal can be brutal.
That being said, involuntary sexual abstinence is hell, I know. The unsatisfied curiosity alone will devour you inside. Yet I think it can be a bit of a relief to know that having sex would come with its own problems.
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