Blackpill are you truly blackpilled if you can get off to drawings of good-looking males fucking foids?

[Sheogorath]

It feels like if that's the still case (it sometimes is f

or me) that we haven't truly embraced despair.



It used to be that years ago this type of shit repulsed me https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=ugly_man+1girl+1boy

Now though, it has a certain appeal, like it's easier to identify with, I guess?

The more you embrace hopelessness then the more hopeless a self-insert would need to be, for you to more easily place yourself in the fantasy.

If stuff like this is harder to fap to than drawings of chads fucking girls then emotionally you still perceive yourself as chad. Mentally you may know you are not, but deep down you are still bluepilled and think you're chad-adjacent or chad-capable enough to self-insert as the bishounen the girl enjoys.

Seeing girls drawn enjoying ugly guys (or maybe not entirely: perhaps a mixed reaction of mostly revulsion with a slight hint of arousal... maybe) is cool to me because it made me think "maybe she didn't like him at first but then sex felt good because he was persistent and she grew to love him".

This is also why I enjoy tsundere situations where she looks repulsed (at first) because that is a believable genuine reaction which hopefully can change if she gives things a chance to (or even if she doesn't)

I dunno why but even "it's obviously this is just sex for money" art looks kinda cool too... escorts are more belieable avenues of getting sex, so even though it's the non-ideal scenario, it works better as cope-fuel since it requires less lying to onself to accept.

If we plan to live to 40+, 50+, 60+ without roping, this is the type of degenerate shit we're probably going to need to learn to accept and embrace.

You teencels/20s are far enough away that you don't need to accept it just yet, there's no pressure to. Fellow agingcels might have a better idea what I'm talking about, once you've become a male christmas cake.

One of the problems here I guess is since you know instinctively that ugly guys outnumber good-looking guys 10:1 accepting that a girl accepts intimacy with one can lead you to think she accepts it with MANY which is probably true.

There is instinctive revulsion to this (it is evolved) but I do sometimes wonder if I should overcome it. There's mixed things here: it's bad that other guys have sexual access, but good she would have sexual empathy to share with us.

the only other option is non-con stuff and while I do sometimes like the art it's the type of thing I'd too moral-fag about to do IRL

(you don't have any guaranteed mindbreak ahegao moment where she grows to be ultimately be fulfilled by your ugly cock like in a storybook ending so you can't justify temporary rape unhappiness)

which means the options are either "a girl openminded enough to fuck me who probably is openminded towards other guys too" biddycope (it's only cuck if you're in denial about it) or blue balls forever where only I can operate my own onahole and never shall I just get to lie back and let a foid milk me as I desire.

the journey to ascend and coom .. if it already leads to a path where we accept that it's okay to fuck escorts (who obv fuck other guys for money) then if the alternative is girls who fuck other guys due to her empathy (instead of for money) is that really so much worse?

It's like the idea she's willing to fuck other incels would be so repulsive (it's somehow less bad if she's just doing it to get money and finds them repulsive?) that this outweighs our desire to be fucked out of empathy and to save up our bux to buy tendies?

Or maybe we are prone to a self esteem issue where we don't think we deserve empathy (embodying the dehumanizing concepts of IT and co, demonizing us as subhumans) that the concept is seen as bad, scary, unworthy of trust?

maybe we think so low of ourselves sometimes that to love us would lower a foid in our eyes and make us not desire her?

I sometimes hope (and cope) that deep down there is some small part of cute girls who would appreciate ugly guy attntion just like they appreciate ugly dog attention

or maybe they just feel dead inside an do it with ulterior motives 100% of the time I dunn

 

[Darkenzo]

You could have good looking chads fucking ugly ass bitches but that would be a bit like real life.

 

[happiless]

https://exhentai.org/g/662154/d5c164c9b6/

 

[Incline]

I don't have an issue with that since its a still picture drawing all I have to do is look at for a while and then I can replay it in my memory and just replace myself with the dude fucking the foid. In Hentai it's harder but in Hentai they are not actual real characters they are just drawings so it's fine I don't have a problem with that.

But watching real porn where a good looking man is dicking a foid is cucked. In fact any man for that matter dicking a foid is cucked. Why would anybody watch another man pleasurer a woman. 2D It's different. Because it didn't actually happen it's not real so you can legitimately self-insert yourself there. But with real porn you can't.

Basiaclly what I'm trying to say is Hentai >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. 3D Porn.

 

[Deleted member 17883]

I Self insert as myself using my imagination. I Don't watch someone else fuckin a girl to get hard.

Even if my only option was watching Blacked shit I'll just focus on the foid voice and hit it off. Why on earth do you care about the male in porn/hentai.

 

[ordinaryotaku]

I only like it when it's just nude anime foids and that's that. Don't like dudes in the picture.

 

[Hail The Bloatlord]

wait...when you watch porn you look at the males?

 

[Michinomiya Hirohit]

You could have good looking chads fucking ugly ass bitches but that would be a bit like real life.

 

[Sheogorath]

You could have good looking chads fucking ugly ass bitches but that would be a bit like real life.

One thing I've grown to notice, trying to find hentai art of ugly girls is... there basically isn't any.

I think the reason for that is:

1) ugly men are not able to get sex so they need copes
2) there are enough men embody their ugliness to the point they prefer ugly men in art because they can relate to them better.

Women are able to get sex so they don't need these copes, but on the off chance they do, the ugly ones generally lack humility and think they're far sexier than they are, so they can self-insert for cute girls without skipping a beat.

Why on earth do you care about the male in porn/hentai.

because if he's too much of a gigachad it's just kinda fucking distracting how much me mogs me and how the foid would choose him over me?

all I have to do is look at for a while and then I can replay it in my memory and just replace myself with the dude fucking the foid

I think emotionally that's easier w/ a guy who is more relatable. Fantasies often go beyond position/posture and also involve extrapolating the foid mindset too.

watching real porn where a good looking man is dicking a foid is cucked.
In fact any man for that matter dicking a foid is cucked.
Why would anybody watch another man pleasurer a woman.
2D It's different.
Because it didn't actually happen it's not real
so you can legitimately self-insert yourself there
But with real porn you can't.

I'm not seeing how 3d self-insert would be illegitimate tbh.
Cucked is when you are deluded/fooled so I guess for masturbaiton in general by pretending something is happening when it isn't, all forms of fap are inherently cucked, intentionally cucked. Intentionaly self-foolery is sort of anti-cuck in spirit though as traditionally it means being fooled by an external party.
Whether it's an IRL male or a 2d drawn male fucking the foid seems kind of irrelevant to me, either way I'm jealous and need to overcome that to self-insert.

I only like it when it's just nude anime foids and that's that.Don't like dudes in the picture.

I understand that initially and I also still love that, but it does kind of limit your options as to what the foid is doing, exploring mindsets foids can be in as things are done to them.

wait...when you watch porn you look at the males?

They're in your peripheral vision and it's excessive paranoia to LARP that you notice absolutely nothing at all about them.
If I didn't at least notice when the guy is black then I wouldn't hate all this white-genocide 'blacked' shit spread by jews.

QUOTE="Dregster666, post: 6018391, member: 13198"]
Nicolas cage> your gay little pony
[/QUOTE]

there is no battle here

but if there was he would lose

 

[Deleted member 30682]

It feels like if that's the still case (it sometimes is f

or me) that we haven't truly embraced despair.



It used to be that years ago this type of shit repulsed me https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=ugly_man+1girl+1boy

Now though, it has a certain appeal, like it's easier to identify with, I guess?

The more you embrace hopelessness then the more hopeless a self-insert would need to be, for you to more easily place yourself in the fantasy.

If stuff like this is harder to fap to than drawings of chads fucking girls then emotionally you still perceive yourself as chad. Mentally you may know you are not, but deep down you are still bluepilled and think you're chad-adjacent or chad-capable enough to self-insert as the bishounen the girl enjoys.

Seeing girls drawn enjoying ugly guys (or maybe not entirely: perhaps a mixed reaction of mostly revulsion with a slight hint of arousal... maybe) is cool to me because it made me think "maybe she didn't like him at first but then sex felt good because he was persistent and she grew to love him".

This is also why I enjoy tsundere situations where she looks repulsed (at first) because that is a believable genuine reaction which hopefully can change if she gives things a chance to (or even if she doesn't)

I dunno why but even "it's obviously this is just sex for money" art looks kinda cool too... escorts are more belieable avenues of getting sex, so even though it's the non-ideal scenario, it works better as cope-fuel since it requires less lying to onself to accept.

If we plan to live to 40+, 50+, 60+ without roping, this is the type of degenerate shit we're probably going to need to learn to accept and embrace.

You teencels/20s are far enough away that you don't need to accept it just yet, there's no pressure to. Fellow agingcels might have a better idea what I'm talking about, once you've become a male christmas cake.

One of the problems here I guess is since you know instinctively that ugly guys outnumber good-looking guys 10:1 accepting that a girl accepts intimacy with one can lead you to think she accepts it with MANY which is probably true.

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There is instinctive revulsion to this (it is evolved) but I do sometimes wonder if I should overcome it. There's mixed things here: it's bad that other guys have sexual access, but good she would have sexual empathy to share with us.

the only other option is non-con stuff and while I do sometimes like the art it's the type of thing I'd too moral-fag about to do IRL

(you don't have any guaranteed mindbreak ahegao moment where she grows to be ultimately be fulfilled by your ugly cock like in a storybook ending so you can't justify temporary rape unhappiness)

which means the options are either "a girl openminded enough to fuck me who probably is openminded towards other guys too" biddycope (it's only cuck if you're in denial about it) or blue balls forever where only I can operate my own onahole and never shall I just get to lie back and let a foid milk me as I desire.

the journey to ascend and coom .. if it already leads to a path where we accept that it's okay to fuck escorts (who obv fuck other guys for money) then if the alternative is girls who fuck other guys due to her empathy (instead of for money) is that really so much worse?

It's like the idea she's willing to fuck other incels would be so repulsive (it's somehow less bad if she's just doing it to get money and finds them repulsive?) that this outweighs our desire to be fucked out of empathy and to save up our bux to buy tendies?

Or maybe we are prone to a self esteem issue where we don't think we deserve empathy (embodying the dehumanizing concepts of IT and co, demonizing us as subhumans) that the concept is seen as bad, scary, unworthy of trust?

maybe we think so low of ourselves sometimes that to love us would lower a foid in our eyes and make us not desire her?

I sometimes hope (and cope) that deep down there is some small part of cute girls who would appreciate ugly guy attntion just like they appreciate ugly dog attention

or maybe they just feel dead inside an do it with ulterior motives 100% of the time I dunn

You're overcomplicating things op. As long as the girl in the pic looks cute who cares about the dude. I've fapped to genres of hentai that I'm not into like tentacles, monsters and shit like that just because the girls getting fucked were gorgeous

 

[Sheogorath]

As long as the girl in the pic looks cute who cares about the dude.
I've fapped to genres of hentai that I'm not into like tentacles, monsters and shit like that just because the girls getting fucked were gorgeous

Monsters and tentacles are fine because they don't mog you the same way gigachad does.

1)

2)

1 is clearly less relatable than 2

 

[BlackPill Scholar]

 

[Deleted member 30682]

Monsters and tentacles are fine because they don't mog you the same way gigachad does.

1)

2)

1 is clearly less relatable than 2

Imagine having tentacles and being able to fuck an anime girl in her three holes at the same time she's also giving you a hand job. That mogs every chad in history

 

[Sheogorath]

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geezers getting it in is awesome, the foids are humiliated and it's something I could better relate to as more decades go by

course it is also sort of suifuel because even the geezers mog me which just hits home what a manlet I am

 

[Incline]

I'm not seeing how 3d self-insert would be illegitimate tbh.
Cucked is when you are deluded/fooled so I guess for masturbaiton in general by pretending something is happening when it isn't, all forms of fap are inherently cucked, intentionally cucked. Intentionaly self-foolery is sort of anti-cuck in spirit though as traditionally it means being fooled by an external party.
Whether it's an IRL male or a 2d drawn male fucking the foid seems kind of irrelevant to me, either way I'm jealous and need to overcome that to self-insert.

Why don't you see it?

Not all forms of fap are cucked only fapping to real foids.

When you fap to 3d porn those people that recoded that porn really did have sex in front of that camera. You self inserting into that man or not the reality is he is still the one that fucked that woman not you. You have cucked yourself into enjoying another mans pleasure.

With 2D. That man doesn't exist. You cannot cuck yourself into something that never happened in the first place. You cant be jealous of something nobody will ever have either because who are you jealous of? That situation never happened there is nobody to be jealous of in 2D. Envy? Maybe. You can envy not living in a 2D world where that would be possible. But envy is not cucked if applied to something that is universally inaccessible. In fact envy isnt very cucked at all tbh.

If you accept the concept that 2D situation could never exist in our world it's extremely easy to self insert yourself and modify the image/video in your imagination to let it be whatever you want. You can't do the same with 3D porn because the illusion is broken by the mere fact that it actually happened so every time you try to imagine yourself in that mans place you are automatically cucking yourself.

 

[Numb]

But watching real porn where a good looking man is dicking a foid is cucked. In fact any man for that matter dicking a foid is cucked. Why would anybody watch another man pleasurer a woman. 2D It's different. Because it didn't actually happen it's not real so you can legitimately self-insert yourself there. But with real porn you can't.

And this is why lesbian porn or futa is the most popular type of porn in the world

 

[Words2_live_bye]

I prefer drawings where the women are just by themselves.

 

[Iwanttolive]

I resonate with ugly man hentai/porn. A part of me feels discontent if it's a well drawn normie/chad shagging the foid

 

[mNFwTJ3wz9]

I Self insert as myself using my imagination. I Don't watch someone else fuckin a girl to get hard.

Pretty much this.
I don't really give a shit whether some guy in the background is getting cucked, or the face/race of the guy fucking the foid.
I just self insert as the guy doing the fucking.

 

[crestfallencel]

ugly bastard only

 

[Sheogorath]

When you fap to 3d porn those people that recoded that porn really did have sex in front of that camera.

You can argue that counts as "cuckold fetishism" which is not actual cuckoldry in the same way that rape fetishism is not rape.

To me cucked refers to classic cuckoldry, not cuckold fetishism. You need to be exploited and misled like the mother cuckoo bird, or FIND NEW TERM.

You self inserting into that man or not the reality is he is still the one that fucked that woman not you. You have cucked yourself into enjoying another mans pleasure.

FFS if you want to call that degen that's fine but don't call it cucked.

Cucked is at it's root "I am raising another man's brood: another man impregnated my wife and I was unaware of it"

Maybe without procreation it could just refer to getting cheated on in general and kept in the dark about it, at a stretch.

Actual polygyny or being a voyeur isn't cuckolded though. It's beta/soy sure, but you gotta term it something like "biddy" though, not cuck.

You guys who do this are stretching the meaning worse than a roasty pussy.

You cant be jealous of something nobody will ever have either because who are you jealous of?

Jealousy can be directed towards nonexistent things.
That's like saying I can't be jealous of a dead chad having got to fuck cute girls a century ago.
If I can do that I can be jealous of 2D too.

The only way to "cuck yourself" is to self-delude you aren't being cheated on.

If you don't even have a GF you can't be cucked in present tense. If you never had a GF you were never cucked.

I mean, maybe we apply this to an unrequited oneitis you thought was pure who wasn't, but it still doesn't apply if you never assumed that about her.

 

[Incline]

You can argue that counts as "cuckold fetishism" which is not actual cuckoldry in the same way that rape fetishism is not rape.

To me cucked refers to classic cuckoldry, not cuckold fetishism. You need to be exploited and misled like the mother cuckoo bird, or FIND NEW TERM.


FFS if you want to call that degen that's fine but don't call it cucked.

Cucked is at it's root "I am raising another man's brood: another man impregnated my wife and I was unaware of it"

Maybe without procreation it could just refer to getting cheated on in general and kept in the dark about it, at a stretch.

Actual polygyny or being a voyeur isn't cuckolded though. It's beta/soy sure, but you gotta term it something like "biddy" though, not cuck.

You guys who do this are stretching the meaning worse than a roasty pussy.

Hmm I am not sure. I think if somebody lies to you like your wife getting fucked by chads behind your back you would not be cucked. You would be cucked if you knew about it and did nothing or still stayed with her. You have to exploited and mislead true but you also have to be aware of it otherwise I don't think we can call someone cucked until that shit comes to light and the way he responds to it is decided if he is cucked or not. But that's just my opinion.

Enjoying another mans pleasure is cucked in my opinion. It's no different than being in that room and fapping while he is fucking that girl. Though I suppose you have no relation to either of them so maybe it's more beta than cucked though I still think there is cuckdness involved in it.

Jealousy can be directed towards nonexistent things.
That's like saying I can't be jealous of a dead chad having got to fuck cute girls a century ago.
If I can do that I can be jealous of 2D too.

The only way to "cuck yourself" is to self-delude you aren't being cheated on.

If you don't even have a GF you can't be cucked in present tense. If you never had a GF you were never cucked.

I mean, maybe we apply this to an unrequited oneitis you thought was pure who wasn't, but it still doesn't apply if you never assumed that about

No it cant or maybe give me a better example because this one doesn't work. That chad really existed. He died but he existed in this world therefore you can be jealous of him. You can't be jealous of something that never happened and never will. Maybe you can envy it. Though I guess it's just semantics lol not really worth arguing over that.

The point is if you are fapping to a 2D foid that foid doesn't exist you are not validating her and she can be whatever you want you can create a idealized version of her and personalize her just for you because since she doesn't exist she can be whatever you want. I give real foids nothing. Not even in the presence of my own mind. They can all fuck themselves.

2D >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3D

 

[Tenshi]

didn't use to like it still not my thing ngl but now I see there's some basedness in it. The ones with the old guys are a little bit too much for me yet, I think even myself would be disgusted by my own image if I ever make it there jfl

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lmao

I resonate with ugly man hentai/porn. A part of me feels discontent if it's a well drawn normie/chad shagging the foid

chad in hentai/porn is a huge failo

that's why jav and hentai mogs

 

[Valiant Virgin]

I generally can't get off to the sight of guys fucking girls or even groping them. This is one reason why porn does nothing for me.

Girls groping other girls, on the other hand, is a huge turn on.

 

[Unsaveable]

wow those drawings suck.

 

[Sheogorath]

I think if somebody lies to you like your wife getting fucked by chads behind your back you would not be cucked.
You would be cucked if you knew about it and did nothing or still stayed with her.

No, it should be the COMPLETE OPPOSITE

We need to be faithful to the root of the term here.

The whole way a cuckoo mom operates is by tricking non-cuckoo mom into sitting on her eggs and feeding her young.

Deception (a lack of informed consent) is essential to the concept.

IE if your wife cheats on you w/ mailman and mailman is real biological dad of your young and you don't find out: that's cucked.

If you just want to see the mailman fuck your wife and beg him to impregnate your wife in front of you: that's FUCKED but it's NOT cucked.

That's why I came up with "Biddy": we need a term to refer to consensual soyboy.

Cuck = NONconsensual soyboy.

As soon as you actively and consciously embrace your own downfall it shifts from cuck > biddy

You are choosing to bid farewell to masculinity, do the bidding of foids and her bulls: you have become a ceBIDae beta.

If you view "invites my wife to fuck men" as less masculine than "got cheated on by my wife" that's 100% fine with me, though I can accept either interpretation.

However you rank it in importance it's just technically wrong to call it cuckoldry when someone's a conscious and consenting participant.

I suppose you could more broadly define cuckoldry as "the rape of childrearing and relationships" where all that matters is a lack of VALID consent.

In that case it's not just uininformed consent (deception) but also COERCED consent: ie if you are forced to provide for Chad's young, it's cucked because your consent is not valid even though it's informed.

In that way it's cucked to pay taxes when those taxes support the brood of other men via welfare queens.

Or to pay alimony to your ex-wife as she fucks chads.

Or to be manipulated into continuing in a marriage (providing for wife) when she's not putting out.

The simple existence of extramarital relationships prob doesn't qualify inherently though.

For example: your GF has 10 million bucks and you don't lose resources maintaining the relationship, but she fucks other guys.

As long as you don't spend time doing shit for her expecting monoamorous commitment (ie make her dinner so she doesn't fuck Chad) you haven't actually lost any resource investment.

There needs to be a theft of resource investment (time, money, etc) for it to qualify as cucked.

If you're 100% free to leave the relationship and are continuing in it uncoerced and fully informed, it just can't qualify as "theft" of your time because you're giving it away.

It'd be like saying it's cucked to donate 10 million dollars to a homeless shelter: that would only apply if the money wasn't being spent as you were being promised it would be spent. If it's being spent as you thought it would, there's no misappropriation so there's no cuckoldry.

you also have to be aware of it
otherwise I don't think we can call someone cucked
until that shit comes to light
and the way he responds to it is decided if he is cucked or not.

Exact opposite. You need go go back to zoology here.

The non-cuckoo mom is "cucked" by the cuckoo mom the moment the cuckoo mom pushes her eggs out of the next (murders them)
and continues to be cucked as she wastes time sitting on the imposter eggs
and continues to be cucked as she feeds worms to the hatched imposter eggs

Even if she eventually figures it out and stops feeding the cuckoo babies, that doesn't negate the fact that she got cucked.

Cucked in essence is being tricked out of your resources due to sexual instincts.

In the case of cucked bird moms, they are tricked out of time/food because of the sexual-erotic instinct mothers have to feed their babies.

We don't tend to classify it as sexual but it clearly is: moms orgasm giving birth to babies, get horny when babies suck their nipples, etc. It's degen as shit and I'm sure bird moms have similar degen compulsions to sitting on eggs and feeding young even though they don't have nipples.

I generally can't get off to the sight of guys fucking girls or even groping them. This is one reason why porn does nothing for me.

The problem with IRL porn (3DPD) is you know there's a real actor even if not all of them is shown, so you have a natural aversion to it.

I find manga works better because a disembodied hand or disembodied dick doesn't necessarily have another guy on the end of it: or that guy is ME

They can also use effects absent in IRL porn like turning the guy into a low-detail transparent shadow which makes it easier to ignore him. For example, contrast these three:

All 3 are great. Even image 1 where you can see the guy works for me because he's a fat ugly guy so I can relate to him, pretend it's me.
If the guy is equal or lesser to you then the porn is less cringe because you're not getting mogged by chad the pornstar.

If you're still averse to seeing ugly guys (we all have our hangups) because you have trouble pretending it's you: the 2nd image is better because he's a translucent silhouette, much easier to pretend it's you.

I think 2 works better than 3 because there's still context of her getting fucked.

Without at least a shadow to imply this, it's just a foid lying on her back squirting cum out of her pussy inexplicably.

That's actually WORSE in a way because it could imply a good-looking gigachad just finished nutting inside her and then left: at least with silhouette you know guy's still there and he's obese and could be you.

I think even myself would be disgusted by my own image if I ever make it there jfl

Girls groping other girls, on the other hand, is a huge turn on.

The problem with only getting off to girl-on-girl stuff (being unable to self-insert as male into scenario) is I think this is what inevitably leads to the slipperyslope to trannydom where the only way you can achieve the unavoidable desire to self-insert into a lesbian/yuri scenario is to become a girl yourself.

 

[Deleted member 26923]

I don't watch porn, i Just look at Instagram whores naked or see naked waifus on twitter.

 

[Sheogorath]

i Just look at Instagram whores naked

ugh what's even the point

 

[Deleted member 23712]

It feels like if that's the still case (it sometimes is f

or me) that we haven't truly embraced despair.



It used to be that years ago this type of shit repulsed me https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=ugly_man+1girl+1boy

Now though, it has a certain appeal, like it's easier to identify with, I guess?

The more you embrace hopelessness then the more hopeless a self-insert would need to be, for you to more easily place yourself in the fantasy.

If stuff like this is harder to fap to than drawings of chads fucking girls then emotionally you still perceive yourself as chad. Mentally you may know you are not, but deep down you are still bluepilled and think you're chad-adjacent or chad-capable enough to self-insert as the bishounen the girl enjoys.

Seeing girls drawn enjoying ugly guys (or maybe not entirely: perhaps a mixed reaction of mostly revulsion with a slight hint of arousal... maybe) is cool to me because it made me think "maybe she didn't like him at first but then sex felt good because he was persistent and she grew to love him".

This is also why I enjoy tsundere situations where she looks repulsed (at first) because that is a believable genuine reaction which hopefully can change if she gives things a chance to (or even if she doesn't)

I dunno why but even "it's obviously this is just sex for money" art looks kinda cool too... escorts are more belieable avenues of getting sex, so even though it's the non-ideal scenario, it works better as cope-fuel since it requires less lying to onself to accept.

If we plan to live to 40+, 50+, 60+ without roping, this is the type of degenerate shit we're probably going to need to learn to accept and embrace.

You teencels/20s are far enough away that you don't need to accept it just yet, there's no pressure to. Fellow agingcels might have a better idea what I'm talking about, once you've become a male christmas cake.

One of the problems here I guess is since you know instinctively that ugly guys outnumber good-looking guys 10:1 accepting that a girl accepts intimacy with one can lead you to think she accepts it with MANY which is probably true.

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There is instinctive revulsion to this (it is evolved) but I do sometimes wonder if I should overcome it. There's mixed things here: it's bad that other guys have sexual access, but good she would have sexual empathy to share with us.

the only other option is non-con stuff and while I do sometimes like the art it's the type of thing I'd too moral-fag about to do IRL

(you don't have any guaranteed mindbreak ahegao moment where she grows to be ultimately be fulfilled by your ugly cock like in a storybook ending so you can't justify temporary rape unhappiness)

which means the options are either "a girl openminded enough to fuck me who probably is openminded towards other guys too" biddycope (it's only cuck if you're in denial about it) or blue balls forever where only I can operate my own onahole and never shall I just get to lie back and let a foid milk me as I desire.

the journey to ascend and coom .. if it already leads to a path where we accept that it's okay to fuck escorts (who obv fuck other guys for money) then if the alternative is girls who fuck other guys due to her empathy (instead of for money) is that really so much worse?

It's like the idea she's willing to fuck other incels would be so repulsive (it's somehow less bad if she's just doing it to get money and finds them repulsive?) that this outweighs our desire to be fucked out of empathy and to save up our bux to buy tendies?

Or maybe we are prone to a self esteem issue where we don't think we deserve empathy (embodying the dehumanizing concepts of IT and co, demonizing us as subhumans) that the concept is seen as bad, scary, unworthy of trust?

maybe we think so low of ourselves sometimes that to love us would lower a foid in our eyes and make us not desire her?

I sometimes hope (and cope) that deep down there is some small part of cute girls who would appreciate ugly guy attntion just like they appreciate ugly dog attention

or maybe they just feel dead inside an do it with ulterior motives 100% of the time I dunn

Ok coomers

 

[Deleted member 26923]

ugh what's even the point

I beat my meat to them...

 

[Sheogorath]

I beat my meat to them...

TBH just doesn't do it for me, too blackpilled on their nature, the only cope is foids living in alternate realities not shaped by this gross world

 

[Deleted member 26923]

TBH just doesn't do it for me, too blackpilled on their nature, the only cope is foids living in alternate realities not shaped by this gross world

I Just look at their asses and do it tbh, still hate their guts tho.

 

[Pengwin]

Coomer

 

[Sheogorath]

I Just look at their asses and do it tbh, still hate their guts tho.

Biden's niece has a nice ass but weird when you try to google it Google Images has NOTHING despite it being all over the chans when we investigated Hunter for raping her

 

[DonezoTheClown]

Yeah took me a while to figure out why Ron Jeremy was so popular. "He has a big dick" they would tell my 12 year old self, I wonder if they just didn't understand the real appeal or if they didn't want to be the ones to break the news to me since I was gonna be that ugly guy who needed ugly guys in his porn. But yeah this is better than Chads anyday.

Similar thing with camwhores tbh, even if the girl is very hot if I see that she just got 300 bucks from some simp it's ragefuel and I can't watch her. For me it's only good when the camwhore gets no money/little money and decides to do it anyways.

 

[Dregster]

It feels like if that's the still case (it sometimes is f

or me) that we haven't truly embraced despair.



It used to be that years ago this type of shit repulsed me https://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=ugly_man+1girl+1boy

Now though, it has a certain appeal, like it's easier to identify with, I guess?

The more you embrace hopelessness then the more hopeless a self-insert would need to be, for you to more easily place yourself in the fantasy.

If stuff like this is harder to fap to than drawings of chads fucking girls then emotionally you still perceive yourself as chad. Mentally you may know you are not, but deep down you are still bluepilled and think you're chad-adjacent or chad-capable enough to self-insert as the bishounen the girl enjoys.

Seeing girls drawn enjoying ugly guys (or maybe not entirely: perhaps a mixed reaction of mostly revulsion with a slight hint of arousal... maybe) is cool to me because it made me think "maybe she didn't like him at first but then sex felt good because he was persistent and she grew to love him".

This is also why I enjoy tsundere situations where she looks repulsed (at first) because that is a believable genuine reaction which hopefully can change if she gives things a chance to (or even if she doesn't)

I dunno why but even "it's obviously this is just sex for money" art looks kinda cool too... escorts are more belieable avenues of getting sex, so even though it's the non-ideal scenario, it works better as cope-fuel since it requires less lying to onself to accept.

If we plan to live to 40+, 50+, 60+ without roping, this is the type of degenerate shit we're probably going to need to learn to accept and embrace.

You teencels/20s are far enough away that you don't need to accept it just yet, there's no pressure to. Fellow agingcels might have a better idea what I'm talking about, once you've become a male christmas cake.

One of the problems here I guess is since you know instinctively that ugly guys outnumber good-looking guys 10:1 accepting that a girl accepts intimacy with one can lead you to think she accepts it with MANY which is probably true.

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There is instinctive revulsion to this (it is evolved) but I do sometimes wonder if I should overcome it. There's mixed things here: it's bad that other guys have sexual access, but good she would have sexual empathy to share with us.

the only other option is non-con stuff and while I do sometimes like the art it's the type of thing I'd too moral-fag about to do IRL

(you don't have any guaranteed mindbreak ahegao moment where she grows to be ultimately be fulfilled by your ugly cock like in a storybook ending so you can't justify temporary rape unhappiness)

which means the options are either "a girl openminded enough to fuck me who probably is openminded towards other guys too" biddycope (it's only cuck if you're in denial about it) or blue balls forever where only I can operate my own onahole and never shall I just get to lie back and let a foid milk me as I desire.

the journey to ascend and coom .. if it already leads to a path where we accept that it's okay to fuck escorts (who obv fuck other guys for money) then if the alternative is girls who fuck other guys due to her empathy (instead of for money) is that really so much worse?

It's like the idea she's willing to fuck other incels would be so repulsive (it's somehow less bad if she's just doing it to get money and finds them repulsive?) that this outweighs our desire to be fucked out of empathy and to save up our bux to buy tendies?

Or maybe we are prone to a self esteem issue where we don't think we deserve empathy (embodying the dehumanizing concepts of IT and co, demonizing us as subhumans) that the concept is seen as bad, scary, unworthy of trust?

maybe we think so low of ourselves sometimes that to love us would lower a foid in our eyes and make us not desire her?

I sometimes hope (and cope) that deep down there is some small part of cute girls who would appreciate ugly guy attntion just like they appreciate ugly dog attention

or maybe they just feel dead inside an do it with ulterior motives 100% of the time I dunn

 

[Sheogorath]

Yeah took me a while to figure out why Ron Jeremy was so popular. "He has a big dick" they would tell my 12 year old self, I wonder if they just didn't understand the real appeal or if they didn't want to be the ones to break the news to me since I was gonna be that ugly guy who needed ugly guys in his porn. But yeah this is better than Chads anyday.

The big dick was just an excuse IMO, it was mostly cope to find a less-than-gigachad guy getting pussy

that said, that was more the appeal w/ "old Ron".

He prob qualified as chadlite in his prime:

chads just looked different back then

 

[DonezoTheClown]

The big dick was just an excuse IMO, it was mostly cope to find a less-than-gigachad guy getting pussy

that said, that was more the appeal w/ "old Ron".

He prob qualified as chadlite in his prime:

chads just looked different back then

Damn Ron really let himself go huh?

Anways, yeah that's why I posted it here, seems to be porn made for people like us. The only good part of more and more men becoming incels is that companies will cater more to us and all the Chads in porn need to get a real job.

Also Ron is why I think having a big dick and an ugly face might beat having a small dick and a Chadface.

 

[Sheogorath]

Ron is why I think having a big dick and an ugly face might beat having a small dick and a Chadface.

I don't think so because if you have a Chadface foid pussy tightens to 50% size so chad dick feels twice as large.

 

[NirvanaFan1988]

This whole thread draw mogs me.
I just want to draw hentai so muuch, I would feel acomplished once in my life (even though i hate weebs, i just love anime style, WHY CAN'T I DRAW ANIME, WHY GOOOOOD)

 

[Jungle]

I don't think so because if you have a Chadface foid pussy tightens to 50% size so chad dick feels twice as large.

Srs?

 

[Sheogorath]

Srs?

yes see https://incels.is/threads/foids-wil...h-non-chads-nsfw-includes-anatomy-art.163931/

 

[WØLF]

Bluepillers: 2

Coomer

 

[Sheogorath]

subconscious "I am this handsome protagonist" cope by most of us tbh