Serious Are you an absurdist or nihilist?

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Aburdism aligns with the narrative of a "clown world", where humans are becoming increasingly degenerate due to their inability to derive meaning from life, despite endlessly searching for it, they never find anything more than temporary pleasure. The brains' desire to constantly seek stimulation creates a sort of "infinite loop" of degeneracy, especially within hedonistic societies.

It suggests the best way to live in the conscious awareness of the absurd is to simply embrace it or die revolting against it,

but I feel like we are all kind of gatekept from truly joining into absurdity regardless, it's not really an option for us because of genetics, I guess that's one thing absurdism fails to address is the conditions on which one can "conform" to. Escortcels share a typical conformist attitude, despite it being a relatively cucked activity, perhaps going with the clown world feels more fulfilling to them than remaining on defense all the time.

But most of us remain in a persistent state of revolt, coming up with theories on how society could eventually collapse and sharing how we cope. Suicide is discouraged by absurdism, going as far as saying it only gets even crazier POST-mortem, because you face yet another unknown, and like the previous, it remains convoluted and distorted according to ones own agenda/bias.


Nihilism on the other hand describes everything as baseless, (e.g no point in politics, no point in trying to get girls, no point in going outside, etc). Often described as living as a, "ghost" or "spectator" of life rather than a participant. Although I believe a lot of self-proclaimed nihilists are actually more absurdist or existentialist.

It seems like the only way to live as a nihilist, just consists of finding ways to waste time or commit suicide, but if we take the blackpill into consideration, then wouldn't we immediately fall back into a absurdist perspective because we perceive there to be "another side" to the suffering we experience?

Thoughts?
 
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Determinist.
 
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Existentialist.
Pareg said:
Determinist.
Are you determined to be an absurdist or a nihilist tho?
 
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FemoidsGTFO said:
Are you determined to be an absurdist or a nihilist tho?
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More on the note where it was always absurd (it doesn't become greater). Also many humans, wait, """"humans""""" are degenerate, retarded and egoistical apes/sheeps.
 
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I am a Nihilist but I'm not a defeatist.
 
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FemoidsGTFO said:
Are you determined to be an absurdist or a nihilist tho?
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Absurdist tbh. I’ve gone from hating women to just accepting that they behave the way they do due to evolution and that this flaw in nature will be the downfall of the human civilization. You can’t get mad at something you can’t control and you can’t control the way women behave
 
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More of a nihilist I guess
 
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It really depends upon what you mean. Although if you mean which one I'm closest to, definitely nihilist out of the two you mentioned, since it follows from epistemological idealism that similar to knowledge, value and meaning are individual rather than universal. We are incapable of seeing beyond our own subjective perception, which leads into existential nihilism.

Where I begin to disagree is with the notion that subjective constructs are somehow less real than anything else, or somehow less important. People make value judgements all the time. If you'd prefer not to be in extreme pain, then I think that the lack of willingness to apply you own preferences to others makes no sense unless you see self-interest and callousness virtues of some sort, and in which case moral nihilism is a self-contradiction. Of course like I said initially, it depends upon what you mean by nihilism, including moral nihilism, as people have different ideas about it. Personally I think that consensus can be a substitute for objectivity, as if we can bridge the divide between our wholly separate conscious experiences, that something akin to truth and universal values could be discovered. However we lack the capacity to actually do that.

As you can probably tell, I find idealism to be more compelling than nihilism, although the two aren't mutually exclusive at all. I could go on extensively, but a more detailed answer than this would be extremely long.
 
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I fall in the Aburdism camp.
 
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50/50 I guess
 
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I am a mix of both. I have always been a nihilist deep inside, but I have always preferred to cope with absurdism, such as supporting extremist ideologies, because nihilism makes me somewhat depressed. As you said, it is harder for incels to cope with absurdism and hedonism because of our genes though.
 

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