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Is it possible to find a decent woman and have a good relationship, I never met a woman in my personal life I wanted to spend my entire life with,

most of the relationships I have seen the women has a straight up cancerous personality or see men as a walking talking wallet, it seems like relationships are only good if you are a chadlite/chad

is there a relationship you have seen in your personal life that you would like to emulate if you somehow got into a relationship with a woman?
 
yes
idk how possible it is at this point
a 6/10 dude is pretty much HTN tier or just about, so should be possible
a 5/10 or below, only if they are obliviously in a betabuxx relationship
 
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yes
idk how possible it is at this point
a 6/10 dude is pretty much HTN tier or just about, so should be possible
a 5/10 or below, only is they are obliviously in a betabuxx relationship
A 6/10 dude with a looksmatch or a sub 5 girl
 
ur name is ogreism
are u ogrecel? which is kind of an oxymoron
if u are big enough, say 6'3 and above
even with shit tier face u can scrape by. u just need to find a hole who cares about height more than anything which is majorty of them
 
Yes its possible, its a total cope to say otherwise. Foids are very capable of loving the guy they genuinely like. But it wouldn't last forever, nothing lasts forever. Women are more pragmatic than men, they will put mind over emotions and replace you with a guy that suits them more when he shows up.
 
ur name is ogreism
are u ogrecel? which is kind of an oxymoron
if u are big enough, say 6'3 and above
even with shit tier face u can scrape by. u just need to find a hole who cares about height more than anything which is majorty of them
I'm 25 years old, 6'2 and that's the only thing going for me, despite that fact I have never had a woman show any interest in me due to my sub5 face, honestly I think height is overrated AF.
 
yes
idk how possible it is at this point
a 6/10 dude is pretty much HTN tier or just about, so should be possible
a 5/10 or below, only if they are obliviously in a betabuxx relationship
A 6/10 is more so high MTN honestly and women are hypergamous sluts and will leave the 6/10 in dust if she has the opportunity to secure a higher value mate.
 
I think height is overrated AF
doesnt get more typical than this
height is the only constant, subjective requirement foids have
view every page on this post and tell me how height isnt everything
 
In the modern western world, no absolutely not.
 
doesnt get more typical than this
height is the only constant, subjective requirement foids have
view every page on this post and tell me how height isnt everything
I understand height is important but from what I have observed face makes up 80% of physical attraction and the other 20% is height/body. Would you agree with that?
 
Yes its possible, its a total cope to say otherwise. Foids are very capable of loving the guy they genuinely like. But it wouldn't last forever, nothing lasts forever. Women are more pragmatic than men, they will put mind over emotions and replace you with a guy that suits them more when he shows up.
So on one hand you say that you believe it's possible to have a good relationship and on the other hand you know that foids are superficial and always thinking about monkey branching.

How does this coupled with the gynocentic culture make for a good relationship for men?
 
So on one hand you say that you believe it's possible to have a good relationship and on the other hand you know that foids are superficial and always thinking about monkey branching.

How does this coupled with the gynocentic culture make for a good relationship for men?
Its good while it lasts, thats the thing. Nothing lasts anymore. Not even for chads
 
I have a pretty good looking associate whom I would rate a 7/10, especially now that he's lost excess weight and has a well defined jaw and good face as well as symetry.
He is also tall and well proportioned.

Very NT and a good talker, but his voice is unfortunately squeaky. His voice is really horrible, ngl.

So, this guy is pulling still, but it might be because he's got money as well and he does show it off.

Drives a nice Mercedes SUV.
 
Probably not highly likely to get cucked
 
I understand height is important but from what I have observed face makes up 80% of physical attraction and the other 20% is height/body. Would you agree with that?
fuck no
height and face for men is neck and neck, but imo height trumping face by a little. just look at foids crying when they find out their chiseled chad face celebrity crush like josh hutcherson is 5'5
there is no categorical rejection cut off point for face, its not a measurement; there are some conventionally attractive traits but a lot of facial attractiveness gives wiggle room to subjective preference. For example, there are dudes still considered chads despite NCT. There isnt however wiggle room for height that comes in black and white, u either have it or u dont. it is the one single trait that automatically makes or breaks you
 
If you have to ask, the answer is probably no
 
ur name is ogreism
are u ogrecel? which is kind of an oxymoron
if u are big enough, say 6'3 and above
even with shit tier face u can scrape by. u just need to find a hole who cares about height more than anything which is majorty of them
This. Ogrecels are fakecels
 
This. Ogrecels are fakecels

ur name is ogreism
are u ogrecel? which is kind of an oxymoron
if u are big enough, say 6'3 and above
even with shit tier face u can scrape by. u just need to find a hole who cares about height more than anything which is majorty of them
5'10 is enough for ogreniggers. It is more about frame and facial masculinity
 
fuck no
height and face for men is neck and neck, but imo height trumping face by a little. just look at foids crying when they find out their chiseled chad face celebrity crush like josh hutcherson is 5'5
there is no categorical rejection cut off point for face, its not a measurement; there are some conventionally attractive traits but a lot of facial attractiveness gives wiggle room to subjective preference. For example, there are dudes still considered chads despite NCT. There isnt however wiggle room for height that comes in black and white, u either have it or u dont. it is the one single trait that automatically makes or breaks you
maybe you are objectively correct, but it's so hard for me to accept, I am 10cms/4 inches taller than the median height of men in my country but from my anecdotal experience I haven't had a single woman show any single sign of liking me,

the only conclusion i can come to is face is more important and women hate short men more then they like tall men.

based on everything you've said I should have women throwing themselves at me. or is there another reason why women don't want to fuck me or a man who is tall?
 
maybe you are objectively correct, but it's so hard for me to accept, I am 10cms/4 inches taller than the median height of men in my country but from my anecdotal experience I haven't had a single woman show any single sign of liking me,

the only conclusion i can come to is face is more important and women hate short men more then they like tall men.

based on everything you've said I should have women throwing themselves at me. or is there another reason why women don't want to fuck me or a man who is tall?
id wager u have missed the signals of 4/10 foids or not looked for them at all
but that would be gaslighting and my educated guess which u would deny categorically
 
id wager u have missed the signals of 4/10 foids or not looked for them at all
but that would be gaslighting and my educated guess which u would deny categorically
So I have been thinking about what you said for a few days know and, I think you are wrong about being tall (you are not wrong about women hating short men) being more important than facial attractiveness , if everything you said was true normie women would be simping over basketball players and or very tall athletes but no, they are more interested in men with good looking faces e.g. Brad pitt, timothee chalamet, justin bieber, and before you point out jason momoa or Chris Hemsworth who are tall and have chad faces there are multiple other celebrities that are tall that don't have women madly simping over them such as will Farrel, Vince vaughn, jeff goldblum (and sure there are goimg to be women wanting to fuck them because they are famous) Who have normie tier looks

And to answer the question, I have missed the signs of women being interested in me, and the answer is NO I'm certain that I have never had a woman fancy me, whenever I talk to women i am actively looking for choosing signals e.g. touching my arm, playing with there hair, I have been looking for choosing signals since I was 15 years old (back In the day they were called indicators of interest).

but if I am wrong and your right I'm the most unlucky man on earth (which wouldn't be surprising) :feelskek:
 
Decent women don't exist. They all dream of being Chad's personal holes.
Peak relationship is being Chad and using women like toys. For both the sexes.
 
i would say aslong as you aren't sub5 and the foid is actually genuinely atrracted to you and it isn't an oofy doofy relationship than yes it is worth it.
 
After years of simmering in the black pill I don’t think a relationship with a foid is possible.
 
i would say aslong as you aren't sub5 and the foid is actually genuinely atrracted to you and it isn't an oofy doofy relationship than yes it is worth it.
Not happening, gotta be Chad to be attractive to Women.
 
Sub 7 yes, Sub 4 no
 

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