Are males actually dropping out of participating in society at an increasing rate?

[VirginAutistManlet]

I consider myself the first of the men to have dropped out of society (dropped out in 2003), I never really heard anything about other guys like me, not at least until in recent years where articles have been popping up online about young men "disappearing from life and not participating", and the rate of young men disappearing increasing every year.

Is this actually happening, or is it just bs? For some reason I just can't imagine this being such a huge or rapidly increasing issue.

 

[seija]

In the past couple of decades yes, men are currently dropping out of society due to many factors such as feminism, empowerment of females, diversity, but those are just big contributors.

The biggest contributor to this is the economy and how it is constantly changing with inflation, technology & robots are being built to replace most retail, blue collar and labour workers. This gives men no job in our society and that usually means no purpose to the average male.

 

[Deleted member 8206]

yes man it started happening only recently in my EE country tho but my psychiatrist said to me "there have been more and more ppl like you these few recent years" it was unheard of before as everyone wanted to wageslave since we are poor country to begin with tbh.

 

[LittleDarkAge]

Society has nothing to offer men any more. Not purpose, not community, not love, not even a decent paid job.

 

[VirginAutistManlet]

Society has nothing to offer men any more. Not purpose, not community, not love, not even a decent paid job.

The reasons I dropped out are as follows

1. Was never normie (very late diagnosis of autism at 30)
2. Was shit at school (couldn't finish high-school) - which is interesting considering I scored 115 and 119 on 2 IQ tests I have taken with Clinical Psychologists
3. Couldn't make friends or socialise properly, even below nerds in status, invisible to girls.
4. Didn't see any future, any place that would hire me would be full of criminals, druggies, alcoholics, being the way I am socially, I didn't and don't want to be around those scum of the earth people

So I just decided to drop out in 2003, good thing WoW came out a year later, and I had something decent to pass the time with. Now I'm on autismbux and continue to live the same life, although I replaced MMORPGs with lifting weights and researching things online. I have no regrets because I cannot imagine life having had turned out any other way. I just can't function in the normie world.

 

[Deleted member 17724]

Yes but for the majority of them, it's not voluntarily. Most men would love to have a 'normal' life; wife, kids, well-paying job, a house in a good neighbourhood. But a mix of all kinds of social and economic factors have made it impossible to lead the lives that our parents and grandparents lived. You have to work your ass off for decades and pay all kinds of debts off if you want to experience a fraction of the joy they experienced and most men see that this just isn't worth it and don't even try.

 

[VirginAutistManlet]

Yes but for the majority of them, it's not voluntarily. Most men would love to have a 'normal' life; wife, kids, well-paying job, a house in a good neighbourhood. But a mix of all kinds of social and economic factors have made it impossible to lead the lives that our parents and grandparents lived. You have to work your ass off for decades and pay all kinds of debts off if you want to experience a fraction of the joy they experienced and most men see that this just isn't worth it and don't even try.

I want all of those things, but with autism I know I'll never have them, so LDAR is the only real option for me, unless I want to go work some shitty job for the sake of working, for no actual benefit or reward in the end. I'm fine with autismbux pittance. Any job I could get, after taxes, would probably not be that much more than autismbux anyway, NGL not even exaggerating, and I would have to be around normies all day, which is a nope for me, not that I could even get a job having no work history at age 30+ with no education, aside from working around criminals and druggies, which again, I will never do.

 

[jerrycan dan]

although I replaced MMORPGs with lifting weights and researching things online. I have no regrets because I cannot imagine life having had turned out any other way. I just can't function in the normie world.

at that point you're almost undeniably superior to what you could have been dedicating your life to wagecucking with drug addicts.

 

[Robtical]

Society has nothing to offer men any more. Not purpose, not community, not love, not even a decent paid job.

That's true if you're sub6, not rich, and don't have connections. That's why I stopped participating, you get nothing out of it, you only get negative out of it. All sub6 men should work under the table jobs or get paid in crypto, so they can evade paying taxes to used up single mom whores and other welfare roasties that would never give them the time of day, but would gladly use their tax money for shelter, food, and police services reserved only for holes.

 

[VirginAutistManlet]

at that point you're almost undeniably superior to what you could have been dedicating your life to wagecucking with drug addicts.

Normies would say otherwise. They would say just doing some drone repetitive work surrounded by criminals and druggies is at least "a job" and "contributing to society" and "getting out of the house", but to me, its fucking worthless and degrading, especially since that kind of job leads absolutely NO WHERE today.

Its not like the 1950s where a uneducated factory worker could save up and a buy a house and support a wife and 3 kids. So again, whats the point in even working if your not in a decent/high earning job? Low-Average income men get nothing in current time-line unless they're Chad tier looks. Hell, even ugly/low-average men with high status well paying jobs still suffer to find a woman and live a normal life! FFS

 

[Joelossus]

How old are you now op?

 

[VirginAutistManlet]

How old are you now op?

32 in a few months.

 

[Hikikomori]

I dropped out of society personally, because there's no purpose in it anymore.

What is there to gain by trying ? The answer is LITTLE TO NONE.

I will only put forth the minimum effort to exist, and I will live for me myself and I.

 

[Deleted member 10124]

Society has nothing to offer men any more. Not purpose, not community, not love, not even a decent paid job.

Yeah. Why the fuck should I prop up that shit.

 

[VirginAutistManlet]

Also, for you guys who say "muh just get a good job and it'll be okay". There's several extended family members (males) who are average or below average looking, who have pretty good jobs (like 150-200k income) and they're still video game playing hermits outside of going to work, they can't get GF either because of their looks/status, as I said, even with a good job like that, it's not considered good enough for women anymore. Women all work their own comfy $75k to 100k office jobs (where beta cucks do all the work for them) and have all their own spending money.

You basically need a $750-1000k income now to be the equivalent of a guy on $100-200k income in the 1990s/2000s who was able to get a trophy or trad wife. Which I guess brings me to the point of it being futile for men who aren't super high earners, at least for attracting females.

Considering all the laws and rights women have now, you can't just be a "decent earner" or a "high earner" you need to be a GOD TIER fucking earner to be considered by the few remaining trophy/trad women, and even then, you're putting at risk losing a lot of money for the chance at this if it goes sour, which now-days, is far more likely, considering how the law is fully on the womans side to absolutely take as much as possible out of you.

Overall, its just not a good time to be a (NON CHAD) man it seems, not even for high earners. At least for me on average looking guy on autismbux, I'll never have that issue that average or ugly looking high income guys have, any woman wanting resources is instantly filtered due to my low income. So any woman that wants to be with me, would be because she literally loves me for me, and not anything else, and if she decided to leave me (because I certainly wouldn't, unless she got obese), it would be me benefiting financially, not her.

 

[jerrycan dan]

Normies would say otherwise. They would say just doing some drone repetitive work surrounded by criminals and druggies is at least "a job" and "contributing to society" and "getting out of the house", but to me, its fucking worthless and degrading, especially since that kind of job leads absolutely NO WHERE today.

Its not like the 1950s where a uneducated factory worker could save up and a buy a house and support a wife and 3 kids. So again, whats the point in even working if your not in a decent/high earning job? Low-Average income men get nothing in current time-line unless they're Chad tier looks. Hell, even ugly/low-average men with high status well paying jobs still suffer to find a woman and live a normal life! FFS

I hope I end up like you. I'm starting to get bored of vidya and could probably easily end up a NEET if work for the degree I'm doing is outsourced enough (fortunately I'm eligible for autismbux as well)

 

[StaroRavager]

Yes but for the majority of them, it's not voluntarily. Most men would love to have a 'normal' life; wife, kids, well-paying job, a house in a good neighbourhood. But a mix of all kinds of social and economic factors have made it impossible to lead the lives that our parents and grandparents lived. You have to work your ass off for decades and pay all kinds of debts off if you want to experience a fraction of the joy they experienced and most men see that this just isn't worth it and don't even try.

 

[Blackpill Rage]

Men are dropping out of society at an alarming rate. But since it's mostly incel men who are dropping out society doesn't notice it at all.

 

[Schizoidcel]

Yes, this gynocentric society is a scam and more men are taking notice every day. Below average males have no value or purpose and it will get even worse.

 

[RollD20]

Was shit at school (couldn't finish high-school) - which is interesting considering I scored 115 and 119 on 2 IQ tests I have taken with Clinical Psychologist

A lot of autists are surprisingly high iQ. Its just the social dynamics and the way traditional schooling is graded does not work well for autists and non-NT(The schooling system only values your ability to regurgitate information back as provided). Highschool broke me because of social isolation, to the point I just shut myself up for months to years. It didn't help that my parents weren't sympathetic to my issues either.

 

[Deleted member 16390]

yes, if you are not Chads , its best to "disappear" before something bad happen to you.
Back in the days , Apache trained Tom Brown walked into the wilderness with just the clothes on his back and a knife, 1 year later, he walked out alive.

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[Ghost]

1. Was shit at school (couldn't finish high-school) - which is interesting considering I scored 115 and 119 on 2 IQ tests I have taken with Clinical Psychologists
2. Couldn't make friends or socialise properly, even below nerds in status, invisible to girls.
3. Didn't see any future, any place that would hire me would be full of criminals, druggies, alcoholics, being the way I am socially, I didn't and don't want to be around those scum of the earth people

I agree. Observed the same thing. Haven't dropped out of society yet other than working enough to pay bills. Better than being homeless. Parents won't support me

 

[EyesAreSoCold]

I consider myself the first of the men to have dropped out of society (dropped out in 2003), I never really heard anything about other guys like me, not at least until in recent years where articles have been popping up online about young men "disappearing from life and not participating", and the rate of young men disappearing increasing every year.

Is this actually happening, or is it just bs? For some reason I just can't imagine this being such a huge or rapidly increasing issue.

It's happening but an overwhelming majority of men are still copers in denial. But their copes are fragile, I don't think it takes much to push them over the edge.

 

[StoicNihilist]

Yep. This is a very big epidemic in Japan right now.

 

[Ghost]

I don't blame em. Society especially in Canada, Europe, and liberal parts of USA is a raw deal when it comes to being a man.

If you're male you're a second class citizen who is expendable. Society doesn't benefit you. Its for the self entitled foids lol

 

[AlwaysLawRoute]

Join the welfare train and give the middle finger to this garbage society that's not worth fighting for.

 

[PEETER]

I dropped out of the society because i wasn't NT and had severe social anxiety.

 

[GodLike]

Society has made its choice. She chose the foids instead of the men. Remember to never fight in wars, never defend people on the street and never do anything for society.

 

[Player]

tfw you can't drop out because it means death from hunger and poverty.

 

[Deleted member 3385]

i'd like to but NEET isn't an option.

my job is ok so I don't really mind it, tbh though i am just saving as much as a I can and just invest it and live off the savings. I'll never be rich, infact I will basically be in the poverty level but I have no debts or expenses to take care of, I can live very simply.

I had years of unemployment, I learned to live with having almost nothing

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

yes man it started happening only recently in my EE country tho but my psychiatrist said to me "there have been more and more ppl like you these few recent years" it was unheard of before as everyone wanted to wageslave since we are poor country to begin with tbh.

yeah it finally arrived here, males being totally unnecessary unless they are super hot or useful slave cuckolds, don't fulfill those roles and you just get a shit reaction from everybody to the point you don't feel like leaving the house anymore

 

[littlemanhikicel]

I don't dropped of society. Society drops me tbh.

 

[surgeryordeath]

Yes I'm neet since high school

 

[Deleted member 6470]

I don't dropped of society. Society drops me tbh.

JFL so much this.
I didn't ask for it.

 

[HighTGymcel]

yeah boi

 

[AutisticCopecel]

jfl at ever contributing to society
they hate and shame us in every way

 

[GeneticDysfunction]

tfw you can't drop out because it means death from hunger and poverty.

 

[Robtical]

Society has made its choice. She chose the foids instead of the men. Remember to never fight in wars, never defend people on the street and never do anything for society.

males are totally unnecessary unless they are super hot or useful slave cuckolds, don't fulfill those roles and you just get a shit reaction from everybody to the point you don't feel like leaving the house anymore

 

[nazianime]

tfw you can't drop out because it means death from hunger and poverty.

This, I am so tired.

 

[DaveBuster]

It's tough to know what's true and what's not in the media these days, regarding articles about young men dropping out, but it certainly seems to be happening to me, and why shouldn't it? Society is rigged against young men, particularly ugly/short/ethnic young men. You have to work 10x as hard for 1/10th the return. I hope more and more men in this situation go NEET, honestly. We all know the globalist lie can't sustain itself, so the sooner the young men who make the gears turn drop out the sooner the inevitable collapse can come.

a mix of all kinds of social and economic factors have made it impossible to lead the lives that our parents and grandparents lived.

 

[Deleted member 17724]

It's tough to know what's true and what's not in the media these days, regarding articles about young men dropping out, but it certainly seems to be happening to me, and why shouldn't it? Society is rigged against young men, particularly ugly/short/ethnic young men. You have to work 10x as hard for 1/10th the return. I hope more and more men in this situation go NEET, honestly. We all know the globalist lie can't sustain itself, so the sooner the young men who make the gears turn drop out the sooner the inevitable collapse can come.

I do wonder what will happen if more and more men drop out of society though. Will governments just start importing more and more migrants until the entirety of the west is filled with people who don't even speak the native language? What will foids do since their hypergamous nature does not allow them to find men who make less money than them attractive?
Japan has a huge amount of NEETs/shut-ins but the amount of wageslaves who work themselves to death probably evens it out so that their society won't collapse just yet. Maybe the same will happen in the west with native-born men dropping out and not working while first-generation migrants do all the jobs that we will no longer do.

 

[DaveBuster]

Maybe the same will happen in the west with native-born men dropping out and not working while first-generation migrants do all the jobs that we will no longer do.

Probably. In the US it's already basically happened, farm work and animal slaughter has huge amounts of illegal immigrants from Central America working for criminally low wages. Burgers were happy to hand over the shit work to others, bring down the price of produce a little, and just assumed they'd stay in their higher paid jobs. Those have been disappearing for a while, but we're already addicted to the cheap industrialized food that seems to just magically show up, so I don't see our food production going back in a more realistic direction. We'll keep getting shittier and shittier food made in worse and worse conditions by other young men earning less and less to make it cheaper and cheaper so the now unemployed pillbillies can get it with their NEETbux. I don't really know what society's long-term plan is there.

 

[FlamingCel]

yeah boi

 

[Deleted member 17724]

I don't really know what society's long-term plan is there.

The dumb migrants who don't see what's wrong with being wageslaves get to procreate while the men who are intelligent enough to realise it's not worth it don't get to procreate. Thus, the coming generations will get dumber and more obedient and that is of course a good thing for the elite.

 

[Weston404]

Society has nothing to offer men any more. Not purpose, not community, not love, not even a decent paid job.

But why are cucks and white 'nationalists' vowing to defend this feminist ZOG shit-hole to begin with?

 

[GetFucked]

But why are cucks and white 'nationalists' vowing to defend this feminist ZOG shit-hole to begin with?

Muh precious white puss

 

[VirginAutistManlet]

But why are cucks and white 'nationalists' vowing to defend this feminist ZOG shit-hole to begin with?

Western Civilization is based 3 pillars, 1. Greek Philosophy, 2. Roman Law and 3. Christianity. Ask yourself, are our societies in the West truly "Western Civilization" anymore? It's not, it's become some post-modernist Clown World that actively fights against and destroys traditional Western values.

 

[ChronicPaincel]

Society has nothing to offer men any more. Not purpose, not community, not love, not even a decent paid job.

 

[Deleted member 6599]

I first dropped out in the beginning of high school.
Hated not being NT and hated socializing. To make the anxiety worse everything continues to get more cucked and illegal.
I labored my ass off for a decade. Basically just to maintain a car and a heavy drinking habit.
I have been disconnected from society / community for 8 years with a very low standard of living, It wouldn't be so bad if I still didn't have all the standard male biological urges.
It's very hard to relax, severe anxiety, I loath myself, want to die, and I still desperately yearn for human connection and to fit in somewhere.
Other than that dropping out is dope.

 

[acnescarcel]

it’s definitely more than the past but not enough to ruin society