cvh1991
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In the end, I think I usually just feel even more depressed as when you log off the game of course none of those women or friends are real -- they don't exist and neither do you as the lead, but nonetheless I find myself enjoying the fantasy for what it is. I had a tough time initially enjoying, say, Persona 5 just because I didn't care for some of the story elements, but I have to say there is a strong psychologically appealing element to it especially for losers like myself seems to me since they'll be starved of these sorts of "needs" in their real life.
You get the chance to live out this fantasy where you are the biggest and best Chad around -- even as a minor all of these high quality young attractive and interesting women want to spend time with you and look up to you -- in a full reversal from what men experience in real life, you actually have choices between women to date whereas irl that's women's schtick/men just take what they can get irl. It's also perhaps notable that "simping" actually works in video games like this whereas simping of course doesn't work irl -- in fact, I'd argue "simping" is a core part of games like this for whatever reason -- you put the work in and you're rewarded for said work.
In my family I have a lot of sisters and was raised by a single mother -- over the years I've met many other women too of course and it's fascinating to me how actual women in real life differ so significantly from the "ideals" that are presented in games like Persona (which you don't need personal experience for, most of Gymcelled's posts and all of the dating/sex studies that we've been through a hundred times can tell you the way things are for all that). Obviously it's all fictional so the writers have leeway to generate whatever they want and all that jazz, but I dunno -- it's somehow comforting in its own way if you're able to suspend your disbelief that you were able to help these women of quality and go on dates/get laid and all that. The games even do some simulation of intimacy and there's the make-believe that they actually care for you.
Seems to me those games do a fairly good job of appealing to what men really want to be -- special/important/good with women/actually helping people and making an impact/making strong friendships with awesome people that care about you too. But, then after growing close to these people who don't even exist, the veil is lifted and you're back in reality and it hits like a sack of bricks. In a way, I wonder if seeing the "dream"/how things "could" be in the idealized fantasies just makes one reflect upon the awful quality of you're actual life.
I dunno where I'm going with this, but I find myself wishing I just wasn't born -- if you're not a top tier high status male or at least independently wealthy or "Chad-light", you're likely to have a very tough life filled with rejection and ... well failure unless you're some kind of genius perhaps. After which society/women and even other men will insist that it's your own fault and you'll be put through the self-improvment rigmarole ad infinitum. It's an uncomfortable truth that not everyone has a net positive life and another unpopular truth (for some reason?) that one's looks/genes heavily influence how they are perceived and how they're treated by others -- ugly low status men being pretty much at the top of that list I would argue. I know that my value to others is determined by what needs of theirs I can meet and to what extent/for what cost -- that's all I am. It just doesn't seem worth it -- I don't expect my life to be like an idealized video game, I really don't, but due to the "hole in your heart" those games can fill, it's made me reconsider what it is that I actually want out of life and how I won't get those things in truth. Anyhow, thanks for your time, of course feel free to let me now if I got anything wrong/said anything retarded.
You get the chance to live out this fantasy where you are the biggest and best Chad around -- even as a minor all of these high quality young attractive and interesting women want to spend time with you and look up to you -- in a full reversal from what men experience in real life, you actually have choices between women to date whereas irl that's women's schtick/men just take what they can get irl. It's also perhaps notable that "simping" actually works in video games like this whereas simping of course doesn't work irl -- in fact, I'd argue "simping" is a core part of games like this for whatever reason -- you put the work in and you're rewarded for said work.
In my family I have a lot of sisters and was raised by a single mother -- over the years I've met many other women too of course and it's fascinating to me how actual women in real life differ so significantly from the "ideals" that are presented in games like Persona (which you don't need personal experience for, most of Gymcelled's posts and all of the dating/sex studies that we've been through a hundred times can tell you the way things are for all that). Obviously it's all fictional so the writers have leeway to generate whatever they want and all that jazz, but I dunno -- it's somehow comforting in its own way if you're able to suspend your disbelief that you were able to help these women of quality and go on dates/get laid and all that. The games even do some simulation of intimacy and there's the make-believe that they actually care for you.
Seems to me those games do a fairly good job of appealing to what men really want to be -- special/important/good with women/actually helping people and making an impact/making strong friendships with awesome people that care about you too. But, then after growing close to these people who don't even exist, the veil is lifted and you're back in reality and it hits like a sack of bricks. In a way, I wonder if seeing the "dream"/how things "could" be in the idealized fantasies just makes one reflect upon the awful quality of you're actual life.
I dunno where I'm going with this, but I find myself wishing I just wasn't born -- if you're not a top tier high status male or at least independently wealthy or "Chad-light", you're likely to have a very tough life filled with rejection and ... well failure unless you're some kind of genius perhaps. After which society/women and even other men will insist that it's your own fault and you'll be put through the self-improvment rigmarole ad infinitum. It's an uncomfortable truth that not everyone has a net positive life and another unpopular truth (for some reason?) that one's looks/genes heavily influence how they are perceived and how they're treated by others -- ugly low status men being pretty much at the top of that list I would argue. I know that my value to others is determined by what needs of theirs I can meet and to what extent/for what cost -- that's all I am. It just doesn't seem worth it -- I don't expect my life to be like an idealized video game, I really don't, but due to the "hole in your heart" those games can fill, it's made me reconsider what it is that I actually want out of life and how I won't get those things in truth. Anyhow, thanks for your time, of course feel free to let me now if I got anything wrong/said anything retarded.
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