Any advise to my situation ?

[Tretaaa]

I'm turning 22 soon, 162 cm height (short legs + growth programed to be stopped at puberty since birth), super introvert. Went to the night reunions of my study group but find it quite hard to actually talk to people (to girls its even worse). I dress decently and try a few jokes but it seems I still have things to catch up to improve my social skills. Never had a girlfriend of course (at least for the moment), never had sex, hesitating and going to escorts in the months to come (but don't really want to do it though).
I fear I may be autistic and that I might have some tendency to unintentionnaly simping (or at least I may appear like that). I'm pursuing a MA in historical studies and planning on becoming a teacher since I have less difficulties to speak about precise topics and always been interested in history.
I don't go to the gym but I swim from time to time and try to walk regularly, but maybe the gym could help. I'm currently struggling to quit porn and don't want to give up.
Just to give a more precise information, I live in France not in the US or the UK so there may be different parameters here.

 

[ToBurble&Pine]

Rope

 

[SuperKanga.Belgrade]

Rope

 

[Tretaaa]

You cannot be serious. What's the point of reading every point I made just to answering me with one word ? I'm asking for help to people who managed to succeed in one way or another, not responses like these

 

[Animecel2D]

You cannot be serious. What's the point of reading every point I made just to answering me with one word ? I'm asking for help to people who managed to succeed in one way or another, not responses like these

The people who succeed aren’t welcome here

 

[ParasiteToSociety]

, 162 cm height

Nothing can be done I’m afraid, if possible try your best to apply for a pension and NEET for the rest of your life.

 

[SuperKanga.Belgrade]

Ober

 

[justuseless]

Go ask on looksmax

 

[psyop]

I'm turning 22 soon, 162 cm height

 

[psyop]

You cannot be serious. What's the point of reading every point I made just to answering me with one word ? I'm asking for help to people who managed to succeed in one way or another, not responses like these

This isn’t a Disney movie. Not everyone succeeds

 

[Runt171]

but maybe the gym could help.

162 cm height (short legs + growth programed to be stopped at puberty since birth), super introvert.

Get real man
Unless your fat and you have a decent face underneath the gym wont do a thing for you
Even If you had a decent face you would still struggle at your height and with autism

It’s probably over realistically

 

[DreamCoper]

I'm turning 22 soon, 162 cm height (short legs + growth programed to be stopped at puberty since birth), super introvert. Went to the night reunions of my study group but find it quite hard to actually talk to people (to girls its even worse). I dress decently and try a few jokes but it seems I still have things to catch up to improve my social skills. Never had a girlfriend of course (at least for the moment), never had sex, hesitating and going to escorts in the months to come (but don't really want to do it though).
I fear I may be autistic and that I might have some tendency to unintentionnaly simping (or at least I may appear like that). I'm pursuing a MA in historical studies and planning on becoming a teacher since I have less difficulties to speak about precise topics and always been interested in history.
I don't go to the gym but I swim from time to time and try to walk regularly, but maybe the gym could help. I'm currently struggling to quit porn and don't want to give up.
Just to give a more precise information, I live in France not in the US or the UK so there may be different parameters here.

brother you havn't asked an actual question. Good for you with your studies but you'll probs get fucked around by the kids as a teacher, they're fucking feral nowadays, especially considering your 5'4 with autism, unless you become really funny/chill which is unlikely considering said autism, but idrk its not for me to say, I'm pretty young and only left school a few years ago and there were definitely some chill short and autism teachers, you'd probs just have to teach young kids or later years in a private school, DO NOT teach middle school or some project school, the kids are already bad enough here in AUS, god knows how bad it'll be in France considering you guys have a fucking national law to enforcee fatherlessness and cucking.

If your asking about women, well, I could explain to you all the reasons why you're never gonna see a pussy in your life but it would be unesseccary due to this rule of thumb: If the circumstances and actions in your life have somehow led you to this place, then it is over.

 

[sadlemon]

You cannot be serious. What's the point of reading every point I made just to answering me with one word ? I'm asking for help to people who managed to succeed in one way or another, not responses like these

I'll try not to be mean, as you seem quite young and inexperienced.

First of all, there's no magic solution here. Why do you think this forum has so many users? Lastly you're in fucking FRANCE, one of the most lookist countries in the fucking world. You're 5'3 which is a terrible height, believe me i know as i've the same height. And also you're autistic.

If that weren't enough of a problem you actually for real want to work as a teacher??????? Kids are fucking RUTHLESS, if you can't even talk to your peers how will you expect respect from entitled brats?

If you have a decent face... let's say 7 and above, you may be able to get a girlfriend. But if you're average in the face or below and that short? Yeah man i don't want to make you more depressed but it's GG.

Try improving your autism situation first, be able to talk with people comfortably especially girls. After that worry about everything else.

5'3 with autism and living in fucking france. Brother you're quite doomed, try your best but don't be too hard on yourself. If you want to blame something, blame this fucked world of randomness. Where RNG either grants you a good life or a shitty one

 

[Zaraj11]

162 cm height

It's over

 

[DreamCoper]

If you have a decent face... let's say 7 and above, you may be able to get a girlfriend. But if you're average in the face or below and that short? Yeah man i don't want to make you more depressed but it's GG.

Don't tell him to get a gf, he'll just end up betabuxxing, and considering he's in france, if he ever does get to have sex with her, his dick will touch more of other guys DNA than hers

 

[sadlemon]

Don't tell him to get a gf, he'll just end up betabuxxing, and considering he's in france, if he ever does get to have sex with her, his dick will touch more of other guys DNA than hers

There are some who prefer that over being alone, and they ammount to a large numbers. Let's say they want to prove you wrong and think they'll be the exception to the rule, that they will be liked for their personality over their looks

 

[DreamCoper]

There are some who prefer that over being alone, and they ammount to a large numbers. Let's say they want to prove you wrong and think they'll be the exception to the rule, that they will be liked for their personality over their looks

They're retards, IMO it should never be encouraged, especially in France:

Paternity testing is banned they're becuase quote "It would break up too many families"

 

[reveries]

I'm very sorry to hear that man. 162cm is brutal.
Try saving up for leg lengthening, you can get to 170cm and maybe a bit beyond, which will make a huge difference to your quality of life and how people treat you. You're basically playing on hell mode difficulty right now.

 

[Tretaaa]

About the teacher thing, it's because I'm not skilled in maths neither in manual work. It's not laziness but a real difficulty, the only thing I'm skilled in is humanities.
About the leg lenghtening it could be a good idea in a few years since only my legs are shorter and make my height this way (+ some genetics I admit) but the upper part of my body is decent in height.

 

[Tretaaa]

And one of you said that I could try to small-talk with some people/girls and it could help ? Like an exposition therapy I guess, what we do for people with arachnophobia

 

[Cnidoblastos]

Your problem is not about social skills. You're fucking short and probably ugly (as me). Our problem is our appearance

 

[Tretaaa]

Don't tell him to get a gf, he'll just end up betabuxxing, and considering he's in france, if he ever does get to have sex with her, his dick will touch more of other guys DNA than hers

Honestly I would rate my face between 5 or 6 over 10. But only when I take care of myself of course. I'm not ugly but the stake is to managed to be noticed lmao

 

[Tretaaa]

Your problem is not about social skills. You're fucking short and probably ugly (as me). Our problem is our appearance

A mix of both I would say. If you try to approach someone while being FULL of resentement it won't work, but if you are more positive this could lead to a different result.

 

[Mihailo Toloto]

Hi bhai

 

[Tretaaa]

I'm very sorry to hear that man. 162cm is brutal.
Try saving up for leg lengthening, you can get to 170cm and maybe a bit beyond, which will make a huge difference to your quality of life and how people treat you. You're basically playing on hell mode difficulty right now.

Does the operation have a risk of breaking/damaging the legs ?

 

[SubhumanGamer]

Rope

Probably

 

[SubhumanGamer]

Does the operation have a risk of breaking/damaging the legs ?

Yes you may look like a polio victim

 

[Cnidoblastos]

A mix of both I would say. If you try to approach someone while being FULL of resentement it won't work, but if you are more positive this could lead to a different result.

Cope, brocel. If you're ugly, short and positive, this does not work well

 

[Tretaaa]

I'll try not to be mean, as you seem quite young and inexperienced.

First of all, there's no magic solution here. Why do you think this forum has so many users? Lastly you're in fucking FRANCE, one of the most lookist countries in the fucking world. You're 5'3 which is a terrible height, believe me i know as i've the same height. And also you're autistic.

If that weren't enough of a problem you actually for real want to work as a teacher??????? Kids are fucking RUTHLESS, if you can't even talk to your peers how will you expect respect from entitled brats?

If you have a decent face... let's say 7 and above, you may be able to get a girlfriend. But if you're average in the face or below and that short? Yeah man i don't want to make you more depressed but it's GG.

Try improving your autism situation first, be able to talk with people comfortably especially girls. After that worry about everything else.

5'3 with autism and living in fucking france. Brother you're quite doomed, try your best but don't be too hard on yourself. If you want to blame something, blame this fucked world of randomness. Where RNG either grants you a good life or a shitty one

Bro for this one I think I must be the realistic one. The fields of humanities are very interesting and all but apart from being a hyper successfull writer since you began or to become an archeologist (which is not really well payed furthemore), teacher at the university is the default option. The pb is that France shits indeed on these subjects (history, litterature and all) but we still need teachers and if I get the competitive exam my income should be rather correct, and professional opportunities will be better.
On approaching women however I indeed have a huge feeling of being blocked. I "flirted" with one once, we went out twice (museum visits) but it felt like she lost her interest very fast.

 

[Tretaaa]

Cope, brocel. If you're ugly, short and positive, this does not work well

Might be.

 

[Tretaaa]

And I didn't say that I was actually autistic, I may just have some autistic traits but I havn't been diagnosed yet. You may think that its boil down to the same thing, and you're probably right, but I think that being fully autistic and """"just"""" having social anxiety is not really the same.

 

[boneless goblin]

I have met a few Europeans online and atleast half of them pursue a career in teaching. Are salaries and benefits great for teachers in western europe?
Cuz last time I heard from Americans or UKcels that teachers make the min wage, just curious how do u plan to survive on that.
Plus it's always beneficial to pursue a career you're passionate about, helps u cope with life and have a purpose.
You're too short for western europe where life starts at 180cm and above.
There's nothing you can do about this, your best option would be settling down with some roastie colleague in your 30s that too if you behave like a good slave and be agreeable with her .
Don't bother gymmmaxxing, it's a waste of time and money, instead just walk, run and swim.
Just live your life man, I'd suggest you to live it with honour and stay single.
But if you wanna try settling down with a foid who's just gonna use you, it's upto you.
Tbh betacucking at your height is really difficult to achieve, maybe if you were rich then you'd have good chances.
Just enjoy your teaching and hobbies brother.
I myself am 22 and pursuing career in finance solely for money and to just retire with a farm of my own with some passive income from investments.

 

[Tretaaa]

And I don't know why but alcohol seems to have no effect on me (I don't like drinking it but tried a few times). It's like I just drank water. So unfortunately that doesn't help with social interactions.
I used to do a martial art but I'm too far away from the establishment I went to know, maybe I should try a diferent martial art or kind of sport. At least It might help with my body.

 

[Tretaaa]

Sorry I didn't saw you previous posts

Teacher in France is not really well payed that's why I get to hit the highest competitive exam of the country. But in Spain or Germany teachers (in every kind of teaching estblishment) do indeed have way better incomes.

 

[Tretaaa]

I have met a few Europeans online and atleast half of them pursue a career in teaching. Are salaries and benefits great for teachers in western europe?
Cuz last time I heard from Americans or UKcels that teachers make the min wage, just curious how do u plan to survive on that.
Plus it's always beneficial to pursue a career you're passionate about, helps u cope with life and have a purpose.
You're too short for western europe where life starts at 180cm and above.
There's nothing you can do about this, your best option would be settling down with some roastie colleague in your 30s that too if you behave like a good slave and be agreeable with her .
Don't bother gymmmaxxing, it's a waste of time and money, instead just walk, run and swim.
Just live your life man, I'd suggest you to live it with honour and stay single.
But if you wanna try settling down with a foid who's just gonna use you, it's upto you.
Tbh betacucking at your height is really difficult to achieve, maybe if you were rich then you'd have good chances.
Just enjoy your teaching and hobbies brother.
I myself am 22 and pursuing career in finance solely for money and to just retire with a farm of my own with some passive income from investments.

Ok bro I will try that. Your farm idea seems pretty cool. But about the lack of sex what do you suggest ? Seeing escorts (but morally it seems a little weird to me) ? Or just try to hit it once or twice ?

 

[X.9]

It's over

 

[boneless goblin]

Ok bro I will try that. Your farm idea seems pretty cool. But about the lack of sex what do you suggest ? Seeing escorts (but morally it seems a little weird to me) ? Or just try to hit it once or twice ?

it's illegal here and I don't plan to go for it for now.
Maybe you should try that for yourself to see if that works for you.
Btw you can't compensate for lack of sex with any other copes , you just have to wait till your 30s for the sex drive to slow down and become bearable .
For now you'll get signs for lack of sex and it might affect your life, but just bear with that. This too shall pass.

 

[Tretaaa]

it's illegal here and I don't plan to go for it for now.
Maybe you should try that for yourself to see if that works for you.
Btw you can't compensate for lack of sex with any other copes , you just have to wait till your 30s for the sex drive to slow down and become bearable .
For now you'll get signs for lack of sex and it might affect your life, but just bear with that. This too shall pass.

Ok I get it. But you currently nofap or at least noporn I guess ? Because if there's one thing that do not help with that is the constant feeling of frustration that porn is fueling (everyone is different but to my eyes the first guy who imagined that it would relieve frustration is mistaken). It's like the gap between what I see on screen and my real situation is so large that it does not help. This is why I keep talking about "socializing" even if I know it's hard, it's because I want to be included in some form of social life, at least before my old/last years.

 

[Tretaaa]

Yes you may look like a polio victim

Uh I see. May think twice before considering it.

 

[boneless goblin]

Ok I get it. But you currently nofap or at least noporn I guess ? Because if there's one thing that do not help with that is the constant feeling of frustration that porn is fueling (everyone is different but to my eyes the first guy who imagined that it would relieve frustration is mistaken). It's like the gap between what I see on screen and my real situation is so large that it does not help. This is why I keep talking about "socializing" even if I know it's hard, it's because I want to be included in some form of social life, at least before my old/last years.

I jerk off once or twice a week with porn, otherwise I'd go insane.
My nigga, acceptance is hard but it's the only key. You'll never get pussy even with socialising.
I'm chronically online mostly so I can't relate to how u feel.
The thing with socialising is that if you were a teenager it would be hard for you to fit in with your fellows cuz everyone kinda stays in their bubbles.
But in adulthood, if you're gonna have to socialise it would most likely be sort of a transactional thing. If you're that desperate then maybe you should just go for it if you're a neurotypical.
But if you're neurodivergent, it's over for you. Give up socialising and stay away from people as long as you can.
Staying chronically online is much better imo or you should just do your thing out in the nature or anywhere but alone.

 

[Tretaaa]

Ok bro I will try that. Your farm idea seems pretty cool. But about the lack of sex what do you suggest ? Seeing escorts (but morally it seems a little weird to me) ? Or just try to hit it once or twice ?

Maybe it's because I'm still young but I don't really get this idea of starting a couple, although mediocre, with a colleague I would met or smth like that. Could you detail ? Plus, it sounds to me like a self-fulfiling prophecy, something that us incels seems to be very inclined to.

 

[Tretaaa]

I jerk off once or twice a week with porn, otherwise I'd go insane.
My nigga, acceptance is hard but it's the only key. You'll never get pussy even with socialising.
I'm chronically online mostly so I can't relate to how u feel.
The thing with socialising is that if you were a teenager it would be hard for you to fit in with your fellows cuz everyone kinda stays in their bubbles.
But in adulthood, if you're gonna have to socialise it would most likely be sort of a transactional thing. If you're that desperate then maybe you should just go for it if you're a neurotypical.
But if you're neurodivergent, it's over for you. Give up socialising and stay away from people as long as you can.
Staying chronically online is much better imo or you should just do your thing out in the nature or anywhere but alone.

Ok. It's like I'm on the brink of neurodivergence but not enough to make me totally separated from society. But the other thing that makes me sad is that I don't want to disapoint my parents. My mother says she believes in me and that she still thinks I can do better with my interactions, explaining that seemingly extravert people are not automatically so at ease in every context either. For my father, he was abusing so I do not see him at all.
And just for you to know, in France there's a forum call the 18-25 which is not explicitly about incel-things but is a little bit more humoristic about all these topics. For instance people who speak about self delete are banned automatically. But nevertheless we do have our own codes, calling "Celestines" the incels introvert and "yes-life" the extrovert. It makes me laugh personnally.

 

[boneless goblin]

It's like I'm on the brink of neurodivergence but not enough to make me totally separated from society

even a bit of neurodivergence is enough for you to be rejected by the society, they can sense that the moment you step a foot in the room.
The reason you're isolated is mostly because of that .

. It makes me laugh personnally.

I'm glad you have somewhere to be at online, just stick to that and stay on this forum. I'm pretty sure you won't be disappointed. There are several pretty chill dudes here.

My mother says she believes in me and that she still thinks I can do better with my interactions, explaining that seemingly extravert people are not automatically so at ease in every context either.

she's bluepilled about life and science, so just respect her and love her but don't fall for that BS. We both know those are all lies and neurodivergent people literally have a different brain to that of a neurotypical person.
So don't waste your time proving her right or wrong, just be yourself and keep the peace with her.

 

[Gokusolos]

I'm turning 22 soon, 162 cm

Reincarnate

 

[Multicell]

There is a saying here in my country "On an old bycicle, you have to learn it." In your country they say "C’est dans les vieux pots qu’on fait les meilleures soupes" and "Une cougar t’apprend la vraie vie." So go out, and flirt with some 50+ year olds in the supermarket.
If that doesn't work. Come back here and forget about it for evER.

 

[reveries]

Does the operation have a risk of breaking/damaging the legs ?

It has, if you go too far, like beyond 10cm, and if your surgeon is a retard

 

[Tretaaa]

even a bit of neurodivergence is enough for you to be rejected by the society, they can sense that the moment you step a foot in the room.
The reason you're isolated is mostly because of that .

I'm glad you have somewhere to be at online, just stick to that and stay on this forum. I'm pretty sure you won't be disappointed. There are several pretty chill dudes here.

she's bluepilled about life and science, so just respect her and love her but don't fall for that BS. We both know those are all lies and neurodivergent people literally have a different brain to that of a neurotypical person.
So don't waste your time proving her right or wrong, just be yourself and keep the peace with her.

I understand what you say about being even slightly neurodivergent. It's like you think to much before interacting. What I noticed also is that I tend to "exclude myself" without even wanting it, I mean even spatialy, phisically: when people form a circle or bend themselves other a table too check at smth, i'm always a little bit out of that circle, but yet people do not ignore me as some of them talk to me. But sometimes when I talk it's like I have to be answering to someone. Otherwise when I try to say something I have to REALLY put a huge effort on it because I think about what to say before I say it, and as I have a rather deep voice it's still strange (this last point might sound cool but when you have to speak up because of the music and all it's becoming annoying).

 

[Tretaaa]

There is a saying here in my country "On an old bycicle, you have to learn it." In your country they say "C’est dans les vieux pots qu’on fait les meilleures soupes" and "Une cougar t’apprend la vraie vie." So go out, and flirt with some 50+ year olds in the supermarket.
If that doesn't work. Come back here and forget about it for evER.

I would do it if I were made in the same recipient as our president lmao. Unfortonately cougars or even milf do not really do it for me

 

[boneless goblin]

understand what you say about being even slightly neurodivergent. It's like you think to much before interacting. What I noticed also is that I tend to "exclude myself" without even wanting it, I mean even spatialy, phisically: when people form a circle or bend themselves other a table too check at smth, i'm always a little bit out of that circle, but yet people do not ignore me as some of them talk to me. But sometimes when I talk it's like I have to be answering to someone.

that's literally me.
and yea, Nothing works for me.My head hurts now when I'm around people. I don't wanna try anymore.

Otherwise when I try to say something I have to REALLY put a huge effort on it because I think about what to say before I say it, and as I have a rather deep voice it's still strange (this last point might sound cool but when you have to speak up because of the music and all it's becoming annoying).

yea happens. Only thing u can do is just mysteriousmaxx and be better at your major . You'll save yourself from embarrassment .

 

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