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Vox has also written a hitpiece on the incel community again, specifically targeting our community. They literally think that we're ISIS and that we "recruit" young men into our "movement" which is untrue. This is a lie that they tell to the public so that they can put us in the same category as real terrorists. We don't even know if AM was a part of the incel community at all. He referenced 4chan in his post and I even dispute the validity of the Facebook post to this day. I know for a fact that he wasn't from the incel community and that he never identified as one.
I'm going to go down this article and dispute most of the points that are mentioned in it, and I will respond to every point with my own response. Let's start.
At the beginning of the article, they tell the story of this person named ReformedIncel.
The alarm bells in my head are already ringing right now. I don't think this person was ever an incel by the way the article frames it. I have heard about the older incel communities back in the 1990s and 2000s. This person could be a victim of the Vox media spin so they could have taken him out of context too, so I won't judge too much. He would have found out pretty quick that women are the worst people to ask for dating advice from. Women are known for being non-confrontational and they will tell you a lie to make you feel better about yourself. This community doesn't sound like a very productive one to me.
I'm going to skip through the part about they talk about the Van attack and address this other part where ReformedIncel responds to the attack.
What do you expect, ReformedIncel? I don't support violence against anyone at all, but I do understand the anger and frustration. Vox and other media outlets ignored the issues that men have been facing for the past 20 years, and continued to push feminist ideology. Feminism has slowly taken over society and the gynocentrism is worse than it ever has been before in history. People are going to continue to ignore this problem until it's too late and society collapses. It's not only rage, it's helplessness. We're unable to change our situation, no matter what we do. They claim they if we stop venting our feelings on a online forum, that we can get a girlfriend, which is funny.
A "grotesque parody" is just your opinion and not anything that's based in fact. The older communities do not sound very productive if they have allowed women, as allowing women into a forum for an experience that is exclusive to men only causes problems and only undermines the mission of the community. If women want to help incels out, they should start by dating them. Most of us don't have any sexual experience, so helping them out by being in an actual relationship with them will go a long way in helping, rather than giving crappy drive-by advice and platitudes to incels that have no use for them.
Your way of solving the "problems" of women is hurting young men to the point where it's probably impossible to fix the problems at this point without major reform or some sort of societal collapse before attempting to do so.
How can you spin an article about incels into complaining about women being harassed? It seems like all they talk about is women being harassed. Even in this huge article, I don't see anything about men being harassed for their looks or anything about mens hardships at all. I guess Vox conveniently leaves out the part about IncelTears constantly mocking incels and men that are virgins. Psychology Today even states that 20% of men are sexually harrassed at work and it's not taken seriously. This is only more proof that Vox is playing defense for feminism and far-left ideology and isn't a news outlet to be taken seriously.
You didn't want to understand the issues and problems that men presented to you. You decided to run with the feminist narrative of women harassment. Women consider an ugly guy asking them out as harassment nowadays so I don't take that seriously and many other people don't either. This article even states "If you're not SURE the answer is yes, don't ask her out." so this only proves my point.
Those subreddits would be right. If you're an ugly men, women will use you as their emotional tampon. I'm glad that Abe found this out. Don't waste your time with a women that only wants to use you as her emotional punching bag. She looks at you and other ugly men as disposable. She will be able to get another beta orbiter in your place in a snap if you dare challenge her about this. Good on Abe.
We all wish we didn't end up here, but I guess someone has to be at the bottom. I would advise Abe to get off reddit in general because of its bluepilled and PC nature. Braincels isn't going to last much longer and ForeverAlone is neutered to an extreme degree. If you don't agree that women can be FA, you get permanently banned there. We'd be happy to have Abe here.
We are hostile to journalist and researchers because they have mischaracterized many of the things that people have said to them and have created countless hitpieces about us. We have learned from our mistakes and we are very careful about who we speak to because we know the game that you all like to play. Sometimes we will respond to questions, but I try to keep it brief and not too long so that things are not taken out of context.
I'm going to skip down a bit to some the more interesting parts of the story.
This is why many people join our community. They can relate to our struggles in dating and most people can't comprehend the fact that some men can't get a girlfriend, just like this person said. People join communities with the people that most relate with. Many of us are of different backgrounds, ethnicity, political leanings, and are from many parts of the world, but we all understand that we're fucked in the dating world and it's women and society's fault for that.
That's 100% incorrect, the "incel community" wasn't created by a women. That's literal fake news. In 1979 (so 14 years before Alana's site) that reads
But "now once and for all," against the background of years of involuntary celibacy, does not necessarily mean "today," and Ulysses is full of indications that the affair is an acknowledged."
Source: Hugh Kenner's and Fredrick V. Wellington's Missing Conversation: A Dissent, http://www.jstor.org/stable/25476195
People have been using the words "involuntary ceilbacy" for a long time. Even before Alana. Literal fake news. She left the community because she got into a relationship. Nice. Then she abandons it for 20 or so years and cries that people have "stolen" the name incel from her? She's literally playing victim over a word that she didn't even use first.
I will be doing two parts to this rebuke. This is the first part. The story is longer than I expected so I will be probably write and release the second part of it later today or tomorrow.
I'm going to go down this article and dispute most of the points that are mentioned in it, and I will respond to every point with my own response. Let's start.
At the beginning of the article, they tell the story of this person named ReformedIncel.
The alarm bells in my head are already ringing right now. I don't think this person was ever an incel by the way the article frames it. I have heard about the older incel communities back in the 1990s and 2000s. This person could be a victim of the Vox media spin so they could have taken him out of context too, so I won't judge too much. He would have found out pretty quick that women are the worst people to ask for dating advice from. Women are known for being non-confrontational and they will tell you a lie to make you feel better about yourself. This community doesn't sound like a very productive one to me.
I'm going to skip through the part about they talk about the Van attack and address this other part where ReformedIncel responds to the attack.
What do you expect, ReformedIncel? I don't support violence against anyone at all, but I do understand the anger and frustration. Vox and other media outlets ignored the issues that men have been facing for the past 20 years, and continued to push feminist ideology. Feminism has slowly taken over society and the gynocentrism is worse than it ever has been before in history. People are going to continue to ignore this problem until it's too late and society collapses. It's not only rage, it's helplessness. We're unable to change our situation, no matter what we do. They claim they if we stop venting our feelings on a online forum, that we can get a girlfriend, which is funny.
A "grotesque parody" is just your opinion and not anything that's based in fact. The older communities do not sound very productive if they have allowed women, as allowing women into a forum for an experience that is exclusive to men only causes problems and only undermines the mission of the community. If women want to help incels out, they should start by dating them. Most of us don't have any sexual experience, so helping them out by being in an actual relationship with them will go a long way in helping, rather than giving crappy drive-by advice and platitudes to incels that have no use for them.
Your way of solving the "problems" of women is hurting young men to the point where it's probably impossible to fix the problems at this point without major reform or some sort of societal collapse before attempting to do so.
How can you spin an article about incels into complaining about women being harassed? It seems like all they talk about is women being harassed. Even in this huge article, I don't see anything about men being harassed for their looks or anything about mens hardships at all. I guess Vox conveniently leaves out the part about IncelTears constantly mocking incels and men that are virgins. Psychology Today even states that 20% of men are sexually harrassed at work and it's not taken seriously. This is only more proof that Vox is playing defense for feminism and far-left ideology and isn't a news outlet to be taken seriously.
You didn't want to understand the issues and problems that men presented to you. You decided to run with the feminist narrative of women harassment. Women consider an ugly guy asking them out as harassment nowadays so I don't take that seriously and many other people don't either. This article even states "If you're not SURE the answer is yes, don't ask her out." so this only proves my point.
Those subreddits would be right. If you're an ugly men, women will use you as their emotional tampon. I'm glad that Abe found this out. Don't waste your time with a women that only wants to use you as her emotional punching bag. She looks at you and other ugly men as disposable. She will be able to get another beta orbiter in your place in a snap if you dare challenge her about this. Good on Abe.
We all wish we didn't end up here, but I guess someone has to be at the bottom. I would advise Abe to get off reddit in general because of its bluepilled and PC nature. Braincels isn't going to last much longer and ForeverAlone is neutered to an extreme degree. If you don't agree that women can be FA, you get permanently banned there. We'd be happy to have Abe here.
We are hostile to journalist and researchers because they have mischaracterized many of the things that people have said to them and have created countless hitpieces about us. We have learned from our mistakes and we are very careful about who we speak to because we know the game that you all like to play. Sometimes we will respond to questions, but I try to keep it brief and not too long so that things are not taken out of context.
I'm going to skip down a bit to some the more interesting parts of the story.
This is why many people join our community. They can relate to our struggles in dating and most people can't comprehend the fact that some men can't get a girlfriend, just like this person said. People join communities with the people that most relate with. Many of us are of different backgrounds, ethnicity, political leanings, and are from many parts of the world, but we all understand that we're fucked in the dating world and it's women and society's fault for that.
That's 100% incorrect, the "incel community" wasn't created by a women. That's literal fake news. In 1979 (so 14 years before Alana's site) that reads
But "now once and for all," against the background of years of involuntary celibacy, does not necessarily mean "today," and Ulysses is full of indications that the affair is an acknowledged."
Source: Hugh Kenner's and Fredrick V. Wellington's Missing Conversation: A Dissent, http://www.jstor.org/stable/25476195
People have been using the words "involuntary ceilbacy" for a long time. Even before Alana. Literal fake news. She left the community because she got into a relationship. Nice. Then she abandons it for 20 or so years and cries that people have "stolen" the name incel from her? She's literally playing victim over a word that she didn't even use first.
I will be doing two parts to this rebuke. This is the first part. The story is longer than I expected so I will be probably write and release the second part of it later today or tomorrow.
