if we have enough ppl spamming them w requests they will at least discuss it. they know full well that young men being denied basic human rights is causing stagnation, but they are lazy and wont do shit about it unless ppl incentivize it
americans, write to your senators about making lookism legally recognized as a form of discrimination
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if u have enough ppl doing it, it annoys them because it jams up their bureaucracy, so it forces them to discuss it at the very least
There's no way the democrat/liberal senators in california will agree with me If I send them a letter to recognize lookism as discrimination
ofc not, political victors tend to benefit from lookism. but if hundreds of people started writing to them about it, it would gum up the bureaucracy + create buzz around the topic among staff if not addressed directly within the first hundred or so emails
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Why do you live in America if you hate Americans so much Albaniancel? We have many problems in the USA but it could be worse I suppose.
Both of you are right I think. American laws, most of them anyways, are written and enforced by the wealthy and the lobbyists and the powerful. Thus it takes a long time to get anything positive out of the legal system to benefit the average person, as the system is very slow and very biased. Much of the work by the average person, such as protesting, writing letters/emails to representatives, etc doesn't seem to work. This is because I think these actions only have a limited effect. Extreme actions do seem to work sometimes but then you run the risk of having an even worse backlash against it that can compromise or even cripple the entire thing you were fighting for.
It's more about "planting the seed" for fighting against lookism instead of expecting it to happen now. Like starting to spread the word online such as we, as part of the blackpill movement (if you could even call it that, as we aren't a united movement but rather a group of similarly disaffected men) are doing now. Nothing will change right now due to the elites in power only wanting to push the current agenda. But if in the future inceldom affects men so much that their bottom line is affected and they begin to lose money and power, they will almost certainly change their tune.
I think it is possible too see change but only over a long time. We will be old before we see anything get even 0.01% better for incels and it's gonna get a lot worse until then.
I think one of the biggest issues is the disconnect between ugly men and ugly women. Ugly women may be underpaid, socially abused, etc, but they won't be denied a literal basic human right like ugly men are. Studies have shown that the financial impact of being ugly (-1SD in looks) is indeed MUCH more severe for men, over 3x as much as it is for women. Most ugly women can't even begin to understand how bad it is for their male equivalents. Sure, they're evolutionarily designed to be heartless around this topic, but many of them are genuinely naive too.
they'd claim that looks are subjective whereas race, gender, etc are all objective and thus would shoot it down. that's assuming they didn't immediately laugh at any phone calls or letters.
that's why woke culture doesn't say anything about accepting ugliness. they can use any garbage but limit it to sex, race, fatness, etc. that omission makes it look like the incel movement is right. that's why they fight it so much.
ugliness is associated with a lot of disabilities, especially facial recession and breathing issues like asthma and seep apnea. i don't think they would laugh at it so much as not want to deal with it because it would interfere with the structures of industries that provide lobbying money, plus the fact that politicians are taller and better looking than avg (muh mitch mcconnell).
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This is ideal same with considering women denying 80 percent of mensex as sexism.
They won't do jackshit unless it affects women
I'd strongly oppose such a law because I don't trust the state to enforce such a law equally and fairly. In fact I know beyond a shadow of a doubt they wouldn't. The law would end up being affirmative action for sub5 women while sub5 men would continue to be discriminated against in the workforce with impunity.
Same logic as saying that slaves shouldn't be freed because black men would be able to own land and vote and black women wouldnt
ironically I slightly agree with you but ultimately we need lookism legislation
For starters things like this would be extremely difficult to prove in the court of law. You'd need to have hard evidence that you were denied a job or a promotion based on your sub5 face.
And we also know how biased the court system is. We also know how the culture is with regards to being judged by your appearance. We all know which gender "body positivity" is for in practice. Hell, a lot of the "body positivity" crowd explicitly say it's for only for women out loud. We all know which gender's looks it's politically incorrect to make fun of and which gender's looks it's open season on.
If a law like what you propose were passed and some ugly dude tried to sue a company invoking such a law, they'd be laughed out of court. There would also be hit pieces made by the mainstream media about them, with all of the comments mocking the guy and calling him "entitled" "incel" and accuse him of having a "victim complex".
A lot of laws sound good on paper, but you have to factor in things like court system bias, the culture and popular opinion to have an idea of how they would actually be enforced. "Justice" is not "blind".
Anyway as for effective proposals, personally I think UBI would be a good practical solution. It would give ugly men the option to opt out of society. This is one of the reasons I'm e/acc.
You don't understand the system if you think this will ever happen
I'm going to point and laugh at you nigger
I'm going to point and laugh at you nigger
Idk how to write a letter
Or care
Or care
Our entire capitalist economy relies on lookism... There's no way CEOs and shareholders are going to give that up because some dork wrote a letter.
Think about who gets hired and the whole hiring process, it's all about your appearance. Foids in HR are not doing to hire some ugly men they have to spend all day with at the office. The old boomers at the the office are not going to hire some ugly college grad when he can hire a young Stacy that he hopes will fuck him one day.
Think about who gets hired and the whole hiring process, it's all about your appearance. Foids in HR are not doing to hire some ugly men they have to spend all day with at the office. The old boomers at the the office are not going to hire some ugly college grad when he can hire a young Stacy that he hopes will fuck him one day.
You say this but I got a good looking popular bully coworker fired in part I for lookism. He was gay and nonwhite too
There is a leap between that and 6 figure settlements for lookism but a lot of lookism in the workplace is actually explicit. in some states you can record without the consent of the other person, and lookism legislation would give you a lot of leverage to make these things time wasters for HR and management. Once you start wasting hour in management's time with solid enough leverage for them not to fire you in retaliation that's when you start to have actual footing, even if it's meager
The government hates men and wants to shit on men as much as possible, they're not some neutral law makers that will hear you out. Their agenda is to enrich women and corporations and pander to feminists. They don't give a fuck and everyone on social media will just laugh at you if this ever gets brought up.
mostly water + I never said that one letter would change anything, don't gaslight me
They don't give a shit how many letters they get
the woke are literally adopting the blackpill
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It's gone full circle
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnACzwV7Mwc Now the woke are finally taking arms with lookism and blackpilled talking points as a 'systemic' issue.
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True for federal. not true for state government. I've literally gotten an elected official on the line before, and getting it to the chief of staff is obv even easier.
It's like being a civil rights activist in 1910; You might not ever see any progress but that doesn't mean that the people who succeeded didn't benefit from your sacrifice. your goal isn't to change human nature just by bringing up a "really good argument" about lookism.
your goal is:
-increase awareness of lookism, considering a lot of people still don't understand what it is And that a lot of people don't use the term lookism nearly as much More buzz wordy stuff like pretty privilege which is not a good term considering it doesn't encompass the systemic discrimination of the ISM suffix
-Perhaps more importantly your goal is to waste policy analysts' time. if you had 100 incels in a mid sized state spamming gpt drafted lookism legislation arguments and calling to check up, it could gum up the works somewhat. I managed to take up hours upon hours of state legislative employees' time during the last session. The federal legislative offices told me to stop calling almost immediately, but I only got that reaction a couple times from the state Legislative offices; most of them gave me half hour meetings. in total I probably spent about 30 to 40 hours of state policy analysts' time, and sometimes I got to speak to the general counsels and chiefs of Staff as well. Multiply that by 100 and they would be forced to at least discuss it, even if only as a nuisance.
I think a lot of incels overestimate just how malicious lookism is. when it comes to businessmen absolutely it's like that considering female consumerism etc. But I think there is a kind of a dewey eyed irony to politicians where they think they understand lookism better than anyone, but a lot of them still naively believe that they're good people and that they're smart enough to benefit from lookism and still not be oppressive
btw lookism legislation already exists in several US municipalities and several foreign countries
It's bad optics and makes us look pathetic. Normies only respect strength, begging for our rights will rightfully invite scorn. Don't be a low IQ DorkNat.
We have to be smarter, a revolutionary movement can succeed as long as we keep low IQ dorks out of it. The state fears violence they don't fear your phone calls
, they would just unplug their phone if calling did anything
They would just find a way how lookism is actually just sexist or racist and would only use it to help women
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