Serious All Collectively Beneficial Actions By NT's Are The Result of Manipulation

[universallyabhorret]

When a charity depicts a disadvantaged group in a way that elicits pity, it results in NT's generously giving both because of their heartstrings being tugged or for the benefits it will have towards their public reputation. In reality they couldn't give a shit about those people but because of momentary manipulation they were compelled to. Guilt, shame, emotional empathy, love, pity, trust, respect and generosity all result from emotional manipulation which begins from the first moment an infant lays its eyes upon it's mother and suckles her tit. This is why psychopaths are highly successful and can easily control large crowds of NT's. In reality these actions are frowned upon deeply in nature, which is based on selfishness, survival and competitiveness. That is the true nature of mankind.

 

[Mogged Loner]

Whaaaaa???

 

[universallyabhorret]

Whaaaaa???

Very intelligent argument, are you disagreeing or simply too cognitively challenged to comprehend this thread?

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Mt Everest IQ

All human interaction is based on manipulation

 

[Gymcelled]

Giving stuff to charity has never seemed selfless to me. You're getting off on feeling like a good person or you're enjoying signaling your virtue.

 

[Lame Dude]

I dont think so. Humans dont have strength to compete with predators, dont have the legs to catch prey. So what do we do?
We cooperate. Raising your tribe's fitness, is raising your fitness indirectly.

In the competition between human tribes, internally cooperative & externally competitive will come out on top.

Even though in a very large tribe (Like a country) effects are not immediately visible.

 

[Deleted member 18214]

All human interaction is based on manipulation

tbh

 

[universallyabhorret]

I dont think so. Humans dont have strength to compete with predators, dont have the legs to catch prey. So what do we do?
We cooperate. Raising your tribe's fitness, is raising your fitness indirectly.

This doesn't counter any of my points. Cooperation is based on selfishness, at the end of the day when humans are done cooperating against external threats, they manipulate, deceive and use force to determine who gets what share of the pie. Even at the familial or tribal level not everyone is equal, there is a clear hierarchy.

 

[Lame Dude]

This doesn't counter any of my points. Cooperation is based on selfishness, at the end of the day when humans are done cooperating against external threats, they manipulate, deceive and use force to determine who gets what share of the pie. Even at the familial or tribal level not everyone is equal, there is a clear hierarchy.

I am seriously tired of hearing the word equal/equality tbh. But I get you.
There is a very strong correlation of being at the top of a social hierarchy and being Machiavellian/psychopathic. Though those people would not be making collectively beneficial actions, since they are looking out for themselves just like a parasitic or commensalist lifestyle. Which is what makes me disagree.

Check my previous message again please, I have a shitty tendency to edit things over and over.
And I get no answer. Its over for debatingcels.

 

[anon]

People only truly care about their immediate family and life long best friends. Everything else is virtue signalling.

 

[The Abyss]

Fuck a charity, cut out the conman & give directly to the source.

 

[Mogged Loner]

Very intelligent argument, are you disagreeing or simply too cognitively challenged to comprehend this thread?

I’m lost your post makes no sense to me. But hey what do I know I’m not autistic

 

[universallyabhorret]

I’m lost your post makes no sense to me. But hey what do I know I’m not autistic

I'm glad to not be low IQ like you.

 

[Mogged Loner]

I'm glad to not be low IQ like you.

I’m glad I can read emotions unlike you blank wall staring retards

 

[universallyabhorret]

I’m glad I can read emotions unlike you blank wall staring retards

Good for you, that you can clearly see how disgusted women are by your presence.

 

[Mogged Loner]

Good for you, that you can clearly see how disgusted women are by your presence.

I just avoid them

I don’t try and orbit or even talk tbh

I know my place around foids

 

[universallyabhorret]

I am seriously tired of hearing the word equal/equality tbh. But I get you.
There is a very strong correlation of being at the top of a social hierarchy and being Machiavellian/psychopathic. Though those people would not be making collectively beneficial actions, since they are looking out for themselves just like a parasitic or commensalist lifestyle. Which is what makes me disagree.

Check my previous message again please, I have a shitty tendency to edit things over and over.
And I get no answer. Its over for debatingcels.

This is true for people at all levels of a social group. That's why people at the top are machiavellian they display the greed, selfishness and narcissism necessary to move up the ladder along with the necessary facial attractiveness and height. The leader only makes beneficial decisions because the existence of the group solidifies his power and authority. Messing up can have consequences threatening his status, at the same time he derives the majority of benefits from his authority while the group gains a minority while the losing competing team suffers.