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Nope, wrong. Preteen foids have 0 secondary sexual characteristics and their body is not ideal for carrying offspring, so men wouldn't find them attractive.
So is it okay to be attracted to girls who are just barely noticeably starting to have secondary sexual characteristics? They still technically have them right?
A girl who is just starting to gain secondary sexual characteristics can be considered more attractive. But that on it's own does not suddenly make her "attractive" as if there's some magic threshold that needs to be crossed that is dictated by growth / time.
Girls who are months and even years away from having any secondary sexual characteristics can still be attractive. Try to tell the parents of every child model girl that they don't deserve their money because their daughter is actually not attractive at all since she lacks "secondary sexual characteristics".
And younger girls can be considered better suited for sexual activity where you don't intend to cause a pregnancy.
Why should any older girl suck a penis instead of being impregnated if she's "ideal for carrying offspring"?
A 5 year old can safely do that.
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Men are biologically hardwired to find those features attractive, it's a marker that they are fit to reproduce. That's why we find big asses and breasts attractive.
Has your depravity have no bounds? 5 years old? I don't even want to think about a guy coercing 5 year old into blowing him.
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I need to invent a special ball sack zapper for predatory pedos or somebody smarter than me designs satellite zapper with a laser beam tracker.
This is how it usually goes down in Jails nationwide you pedo freaks:
White convicts steal pedofreaks commissary while bubba takes aim at pedo bung hole with grease. Pedos sign themselves into PC to save themselves - if there is any room.
Child Molesters are the lowest in the prison pecking order. Trying to survive daily life in a cage surrounded by hardened convicts who hate baby rapers is ultimate hell on earth.
The thing is. Can you hide from bubba?
This is how it usually goes down in Jails nationwide you pedo freaks:
White convicts steal pedofreaks commissary while bubba takes aim at pedo bung hole with grease. Pedos sign themselves into PC to save themselves - if there is any room.
Child Molesters are the lowest in the prison pecking order. Trying to survive daily life in a cage surrounded by hardened convicts who hate baby rapers is ultimate hell on earth.
The thing is. Can you hide from bubba?
Don't care about the loliposters, but pedophiles are degenerate. You're not going to convince anyone to agree with you. Harming children is as evil as it gets.
Then when is it okay to do any sexual activity?
1) Having secondary sexual characteristics even if it can't be easily noticed without being naked.
2) To them being noticeable without being naked.
3) To them being noticeable enough according to what you claim is noticeable to you.
4) To them being big enough according to a degree you claim.
Why can't I have sex with a girl before you would want to? Why do I have to care about big ass and boobs as much as other men claim to do?
Is it possible to do sex acts with younger girls now then also reproduce with them in the future?
Why does there have to exist something that is "big" on a girl if it will never be used in the near future?
So if it's just having a big butt and boobs. That's the only reason why I would want to sex with a girl. Then how does that make her sucking your dick more enjoyable? A girl doesn't need any boobs or ass to suck dick.
I think it could be more enjoyable to have a younger girl sucking your dick. Why is that considered abnormal or mean there is something wrong with you? If you really want to believe she needs big boobs and ass for you to enjoy it then you do you boo.
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Probably by the time she has reached Tanner V
I can't stop you, but that doesn't mean the law won't.
A woman doesn't have to have big breasts to be considered attractive, men will settle for foids with no tits/ass because low standards, but that doesn't mean he doesn't find them attractive.
Yes, but that would be grooming. You're molding her into liking you, instead of giving her the choice.
She doesn't need ass/tits to give a good blowjob. But if she's 10, won't her jaw be too small fit in a grown man's penis in her mouth?
It's abnormal because most men aren't into to that.
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Why do you say this like its a bad thing?
An adult incel decides to mold, or groom, a young foid into liking him, instead of letting her grow up to be a whore who gags on chad's cock.
So why is this a bad thing? @DeepSea
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That's seems unethical, I don't like restricting other people's choices, unless it negatively affects me. So no inb4: "If your wife was cheating on you, you'd be ok with it?"
[UWSL]I left r9k to escape porn spam, trannies and bpd roasties only to find out this place is Infested with pedos. And here I thought incels.is was for guys who had a hard time with women. Turns out its a groomer support forum [/UWSL][UWSL].[/UWSL]
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If a woman is your wife, you enter a voluntary contract where you agree you won't cheat on her, and vice versa. But did you agree to laws which say you can't have sex with females under an arbitrary age?
Also, what if you had the chance to groom a stacy loli into being your wife, and your only other choice was jerking off the rest of your life. Wouldn't that be restricting your choices to say you can't do such? and lastly, even if you don't want to, what if other men would like to groom a loli? Why should their choices be restricted just because you want used up sluts?
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As I said in the other post, I personally can't stop you but the law will.
Non-autistic pedophiles exist too and really, comparing autistic people to trannies? I’m above them abominations.
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This is incorrect. Preteen foids are pubescent, and puberty is when secondary sexual characteristics appear. Most girls reach puberty at age 9. In girls, the first visible sign of puberty is usually thelarche, which is the start of breast growth, and is classified as Tanner stage 2 (B2).
The average age of thelarche has been decreasing for a long time:
- Susman et al. (2010) – girls born circa 1990 – B2 9,8 years
- Cabrera et al. (2014) – girls born circa 1998 – B2 9,7 years
- Biro et al. (2013) – girls born circa 1999 – B2 9,4 years
- Harley et al. (2017) – girls born circa 2000 – B2 9,3 years
Homosexuality correlates with homosexual pedophilia, but has nothing to do with heterosexual pedophilia. Most "child molestors" are not pedophiles and do not have a pedophilic sexual orientation. It's completely normal for men to be somewhat attracted to prepubescent girls, and the reason why many normies feel uneasy when they see someone like David Beckham kiss his daughter on the lips, is because they are in denial about this fact. Straight men like to kiss cute little girls, but not cute little boys; and gay men like to kiss "cute" little boys, but not cute little girls. If it weren't for social conditioning, they'd go further than mere kissing.
Sexuality is inborn and biologically determined. You can't "abuse" someone into becoming gay. Multiple studies have been done on gay individuals sharing genetic markers such as the Xq28 and MAGE variants and certain features on chromosome 8, as well as the INAH 3 neuron. There have also been meta analyses of twin studies that have determined that a gay man is much more likely than a straight man to have a gay brother.
This study explains that the reason why men have always disliked homosexuals is not fear of sex, but an understanding that the homosexual male will not be an effective coalition partner. In an evolutionary environment, males appear to have a natural tendency to form coalitions in which they support each other extracting resources and enforcing patriarchal values. Because gay men have no reason to support patriarchy, it is justified to discriminate against them and exclude them from male spaces.
Homosexuality and homosexual pedophilia should be socially stigmatized but not illegal. When all sexual acts between adults and children are considered rape, gay pedos have no reason to seek out gay kids to have consensual sex with because they know they'd be prosecuted for rape regardless of whether they coerce a child into sex or not. Modern society is literally incentivizing gay men to molest straight kids. Instead of encouraging them to confine their degenerate behavior to people who are just like them and who would enjoy having sex with them, society is doing the exact opposite.
If modern conservatives weren't such pedohysteric feminist cucks, they'd understand that "protecting" gay kids from gay men is counterproductive and harms straight kids.
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I was asking you about your ethical view and reasoning behind it. Don't sidestep it and just bring up laws.
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Mostly because of the grooming aspect, it seems predatory to go after people's kids because you can't get girls your own age.
So now its about parental rights?
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Not all of course, but it's not uncommon to see a few guys on here wanting foids under 12.
10-11 is when foids hit puberty.
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Kinda, I wouldn't like it if I had a family and some guy was nearby grooming lolis for sex. My protective instincts would kick in.
I think the reason people hate pedos, is because most pedos tend to be Incel. So they get tons of failos, and are percieved as threats.
Ye, but it's only early puberty those secondary characteristics aren't fully formed
i think its more because of social conditioning, and the fact fathers know that letting some grown dude bang their jb dude feels cucked
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Also, because the father feels like the groomer could have malcious intentions. Alot of Dads are like that at first, if the guy is a non-pedo Normie.
Yes, because of social conditioning people are against adults and young foids, its a protective instinct amplified.
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What percentage of men do you think like foids under the age of 13?
Im gonna take a guess and say 40% of men have some attraction to preteens. However most prefer older.
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Really? I would assume that those inhibitions and stigmas came from feminism right?
Yeah, probably. Mainly
if you wanna be technical fornication used to be taboo, so a 29 year old banging a 13 year old "just for fun" would still get some pushback, just not legal action
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I never understand why people were so prudish back then.
people have always been prudish
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Idk why sex is seen as taboo, it's dumb.
because people can have babies
and because soyciety worships foids. and grown men having sex with 12 year olds is "muh exploitation"
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Would 12 year olds find older men attractive?
lol yes they would. boys their age are not developed in the slightest. 12 year old foids are at least partway through puberty
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Do you feel like you would have a chance with a 10 - 12 yr if the laws/stigmas changed?
I don't have a definition of "child" but a 12yo is definitely a child.
(Reference: my sister's no.1 daughter was 12, five years ago. Definitely a child.)
Even the lowest of the low understand that grown-ass men fucking children is disgusting. That's why pedos have to be segregated in jail to stop murderers, rapists and everyone else from eviscerating them because even those people know pedos don't deserve human rights.
So you're gonna say an adult having consensual sex with a 12 year old slut is worse than killing someone.
Yeah you're fucking retarded.
And its obvious you're retarded because you made up definitions of children on the fly.
agreed agecucks need to rope
Sounds like shit a pedo would say.
16 and 17yos by and large seem to have an adult level of agency and decision-making prowess. So yeah, about that.
Because I have child relatives who I like in my life, and I understand how trusting and vulnerable they are. And I'm old enough to have seen some nasty pedo murder shit go down.
So that's why pedos don't deserve human rights. Fuck pedos. Castrate pedos.
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I get the emotional appeal you're making, but pedos are technically human, and castration infringes upon their human rights. If anything, they should be chemically castrated so that they functionally can't feel attraction and arousal towards children.
I know you said moral not legal, but I 100% believe my country has it about right. AOC = 16, any sex with an under-16 is a crime, EXCEPT in the case of consensual sex between a 16yo and a 15yo, that will automatically be given a free pass.
I honestly think that's right and that's as it should be. Kids at that age are growing up so fast, an age difference of more than a year or two translates into a huge difference in power and agency.
If 30yos want to fuck 20yos - go for it.
If 25yos want to fuck 18yos - go for it.
Anyone fucking 12yos - no.
Yeah alright, fuck it, yeah I do. Sex should be a good thing not a bad thing. Using your power to take something from someone against their will is wrong, even if you are an incel and sex is a bit of a personal hobby horse.You’re overly emotional just like those woman who say “castrate rapists
Do you also agree with castrating rapists? And by rapists I don’t mean the meme tier ”rapists” as in those who have sex with a slightly drunk woman who ends up regretting it, I mean rapists as in those who violently attack woman and force themselves into them while the woman struggles and fights back.
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I always was pro free speech, but seeing how controversial and toxic the subject is: Ban pedophilia discussion.
Discussing it has no worth on an incel forum as you degenerate incel niggers are unable to get a 14yo foid just as you're unable to get a 30yo foid. So it's not even a topic worth talking about.
Tbh ... the whole topic is worthless because it's only "I would fuck a kid" and "I would never fuck a kid", there is nothing more to it, it's a completley worthless topic.
Discussing it has no worth on an incel forum as you degenerate incel niggers are unable to get a 14yo foid just as you're unable to get a 30yo foid. So it's not even a topic worth talking about.
Tbh ... the whole topic is worthless because it's only "I would fuck a kid" and "I would never fuck a kid", there is nothing more to it, it's a completley worthless topic.
>ban pedophilia discussion
>mentions 14 year olds
also what do you mean by "toxic"? That sounds like what a soy would say.
14yo falls under pedophilia where I live.
I mean that this discussion has nothing to offer and always just ends in insults.
Yeah I do.
I can say it again a few more times, with different words, if that would be of any help?
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True ngl, it's just pointless at the end of the day.
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First of all, let's get one thing straight: I am NO kind of cuck. And second, I didn't say sterilize, I said chemically castrate. Sterilization means you forcibly render them infertile by removing their testicles/ovaries. Chemical castration suppresses sexual urges.
All offending pedos should be castrated, regardless of what genitals they have between their legs. If you have an attraction to prepubescents that you're unable to help but don't act on your impulses, then you're fine because you haven't committed any act. Go jerk off to loli porn or fuck a child-like blowup doll or something to get it out of your system. But if you can't help yourself and you molest and take advantage of a prepubescent child, then you should be chemically castrated as punishment in addition to jail time, just as you would punish other serious crimes.
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