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What are incels owed for their fragility? The so-called sexual marketplace has never been more free than it is now. When you say society ought to change so they aren't so wounded, what exactly are you suggesting?

The problem I find with these sorts of exercises is that they are usually complaints about women supposedly no longer fulfilling their role as being the care apparatus for men. I'm meant to entertain that these incels are, through largely no fault of their own, the victim of a culture that is leaving them in the dust when they're just supposed to be these romantic fellas just looking for love. In reality, incels lose in the sexual marketplace because women aren't buying what they're selling, and a lot of that has to do with their failures to be likable.

So what are you suggesting? Federal funded escort services? Have Hitch teach a class in middle schools?

Do women have an obligation to sleep with shitty men so those men lose their v-card and don't shoot up a college campus?

We have a way to take care of people like that, it's called take fucking zoloft like the rest of us and get some therapy.

You want to know the root problem with incels? It's not ~society~, it's entitlement. You are not entitled to sex with a woman. At any point in your life. Yes, even if you're super duper lonely. Christ.
 
i still dont get why would any non hollow male want pussy, just the thought of having a weaker person i have to protect and provide for brings me anxiety
 
Just take your SSRI's to cope with being subhuman bro
Just don't be entitled bro

FUCKING REDDITORS!!!:reeeeee:
 
Incels are the result of ugly men being rejected by ugly women.
 
And I’m obviously not gonna read that post lmao.
 
OP sounds like some rando r/antisex Redditor whining about sexualized culture + objectification of foids

But IMO they're just naive

Yes, it has been proven time and time again that normies would rather be unreasonably bitchy to anyone who doesn't fit in, even if it has led to many shootings. No, normies aren't willing to change
 
Normies: No one is entitled to sex, which just so happens to be the only thing foids can provide.

But everyone is entitled to free healthcare, free education, free housing, free food. All of those things are paid for by taxes, which are primarily paid by men. And the beneficiaries of tax-funded programs are primarily foids.
 
What she fails to understand is that incels aren't just mindless sex monsters. We are just men who want to have relationships and be normal. Normies deny us this and then shove it in our faces and mock us for not meeting that standard. It's too much. I've been in therapy but therapy is built for women and doesn't help male depression since male depression is not about feeling unvalidated it's about feeling powerless.

The problem therein does not lie in the fact that you refuse to sleep with the uggos, it's the fact that the majority of women do this and virtue signal, and that no support of any kind is given to the increasingly larger population of 'undesirables'. On a similar note, we also do not owe women anything, and so many should be cut from support, because women are actually a net-negative on the economy.
 
Shit is so stupid I can't even get mad. "No one is entitled to anything" is only ever used for us. Are the poor entitled to financial support? The crippled? The sick? The disadvantaged of any kind? Apperently we live in a society that tries to equalize the innate unfairness of the world in most cases. But no in ours. They lie about the root cause, because if they accepted that we (and men in general) are inherently disadvantaged, that would make us eligible for sympathy and support.

Once you have a roof over your head and aren't freezing or starving to death, being loved, experiencing affection, finding a partner, having sex... those are some of the most valuable and important things for your well-being. Far more important than comfort and absolute security.

Yet, just by being born ugly (and male) or neurodivergent (and male) many of us will be denied those things for much of our life. While women are guranteed them just because they are born with the more valuable sex cells. That is an obvious inequality that needs addressing.

What makes it even more ridiculous is how this society is constantly forcing equality to the benefit of women in every domain they can pretend to be disadvantaged in. Why are you entitled to female only scholorship programs? To """equal pay""" (a percieved imbalance based on faulty perception and statistical illiteracy)? You can make a list hundreds of pages long with all the domains in which women are demanding things they feel entitled to. Why are fat women entitled to be percieved as "attractive". As "just fine the way they are"?

These braindead whores get everything for themselfs and feel no need to share because they don't care about our plight in the slightest. Amoral scum happily letting a solid portion of an entire generation of men live a life devoid of love and affection and intimacy. One can only hope they some day get held accountable for their amoral selfishness and cruelty.
 
If im not entitled to a woman, Guess ill have to rape one then :feelskek:
 
What's the point of arguing with these people, man?

"The so-called sexual marketplace has never been more free than it is now"

This is like calling a random toddler to discuss Science with a PhD Scientist.
There's no point.

The sexual marketplace is free FOR WOMEN (From Landwhales to Stacies) AND THE TOP 10% OF MEN (High Tier Normies, Chadlite and Chad).

There's DATA and STUDIES about this. This is a FACT. A OBJECTIVE FACT. A UNDENIABLE FACT OF THE REALITY OF THE WORLD RIGHT NOW.

But they won't address them. It doesn't matter. It's "I feel that way". That's all.

There's literally no point in arguing with bluepillers. I have said this before, and I will say this again, the only language Bluepillers understand, is a bullet through their fucking skull. That's how you convince bluepillers, you kill them.

But considering the consequences of doing that, you IGNORE THEM or make fun of them.
 
‘Do women have an obligation to sleep with shitty men so those men lose their v-card and don't shoot up a college campus?’

Yes. Foids are the cause of mass shootings.
You know what happens when you poke the bear too much. As a little kid, I used to shout in my Dad's face and demonise him for his temper until one day, he smacked the shit out of him. My faux outrage was totally gone from that day onward.
 
Shit is so stupid I can't even get mad. "No one is entitled to anything" is only ever used for us. Are the poor entitled to financial support? The crippled? The sick? The disadvantaged of any kind? Apperently we live in a society that tries to equalize the innate unfairness of the world in most cases. But no in ours. They lie about the root cause, because if they accepted that we (and men in general) are inherently disadvantaged, that would make us eligible for sympathy and support.

Once you have a roof over your head and aren't freezing or starving to death, being loved, experiencing affection, finding a partner, having sex... those are some of the most valuable and important things for your well-being. Far more important than comfort and absolute security.

Yet, just by being born ugly (and male) or neurodivergent (and male) many of us will be denied those things for much of our life. While women are guranteed them just because they are born with the more valuable sex cells. That is an obvious inequality that needs addressing.

What makes it even more ridiculous is how this society is constantly forcing equality to the benefit of women in every domain they can pretend to be disadvantaged in. Why are you entitled to female only scholorship programs? To """equal pay""" (a percieved imbalance based on faulty perception and statistical illiteracy)? You can make a list hundreds of pages long with all the domains in which women are demanding things they feel entitled to. Why are fat women entitled to be percieved as "attractive". As "just fine the way they are"?

These braindead whores get everything for themselfs and feel no need to share because they don't care about our plight in the slightest. Amoral scum happily letting a solid portion of an entire generation of men live a life devoid of love and affection and intimacy. One can only hope they some day get held accountable for their amoral selfishness and cruelty.
Tbh, I don't even feel like getting angry at these people anymore. This forum itself lacks any sort of conviction or backbone. The overall sentiment displayed in the top thread of the Must-Read section is just embarrassing. 90% of the forum seems to be ready to betabux and get divorce-graped for a month of pussy despite of what they usually spew here. Why get mad at them when subconsciously you're okay with the whole deal at the end of the day.
 
Tbh, I don't even feel like getting angry at these people anymore. This forum itself lacks any sort of conviction or backbone. The overall sentiment displayed in the top thread of the Must-Read section is just embarrassing. 90% of the forum seems to be ready to betabux and get divorce-graped for a month of pussy despite of what they usually spew here. Why get mad at them when subconsciously you're okay with the whole deal at the end of the day.
Given the options "you stay a virgin for life but society as a whole wakes up to how horribly it has treated men tomorrow" and "you find an attractive and loving girlfriend tomorrow but society remains willfully ignorant of the hypocracy and cruelty of its actions for the rest of your life" I would pick option 1, I think. Love and affection might be amongst the top 3 of things that would improve my quality of life, though that doesn't even really capture the importance. They would make my life worth living in a way it has not been up till now.

That being said, I am ideologically possessed and not a day goes by where I don't feel intense anger and despair, triggered by all the unfairness and dishonesty and misery I see. There is a specific type of person who can not stop caring and for those people / us getting to right the wrongs we percieve in the world might be even more important for our mental well-being than love. Though I have only ever seen other people like that online.


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i still dont get why would any non hollow male want pussy, just the thought of having a weaker person i have to protect and provide for brings me anxiety
cos in return u get sex and a best friend and cared for a little
 
Given the options "you stay a virgin for life but society as a whole wakes up to how horribly it has treated men tomorrow" and "you find an attractive and loving girlfriend tomorrow but society remains willfully ignorant of the hypocracy and cruelty of its actions for the rest of your life" I would pick option 1, I think. Love and affection might be amongst the top 3 of things that would improve my quality of life, though that doesn't even really capture the importance. They would make my life worth living in a way it has not been up till now.

That being said, I am ideologically possessed and not a day goes by where I don't feel intense anger and despair, triggered by all the unfairness and dishonesty and misery I see. There is a specific type of person who can not stop caring and for those people / us getting to right the wrongs we percieve in the world might be even more important for our mental well-being than love. Though I have only ever seen other people like that online.


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Yeah! The need for love and affection is not something that can be completely overridden. But like you said, I'm at a point in my life where I'd be willing to forego all the love and affection for eternal sufferings on foids. I know it's something easy to scoff at or dismiss since it isn't really realistic unlike one saying that they'd rather be rich than seek love and affection from a foid, but I hardly have any motivation to improve my life any further despite having more money than ever. For me, it's less about the perceived justice, more so the schadenfreude. Anyway, in my opinion, the reason you see those people online only is because their it requires a heavy social penalty in the real world.
 
Yeah! The need for love and affection is not something that can be completely overridden. But like you said, I'm at a point in my life where I'd be willing to forego all the love and affection for eternal sufferings on foids. I know it's something easy to scoff at or dismiss since it isn't really realistic unlike one saying that they'd rather be rich than seek love and affection from a foid, but I hardly have any motivation to improve my life any further despite having more money than ever. For me, it's less about the perceived justice, more so the schadenfreude. Anyway, in my opinion, the reason you see those people online only is because their it requires a heavy social penalty in the real world.
Yes. I just see most foids as enemy
 
Given the options "you stay a virgin for life but society as a whole wakes up to how horribly it has treated men tomorrow" and "you find an attractive and loving girlfriend tomorrow but society remains willfully ignorant of the hypocracy and cruelty of its actions for the rest of your life" I would pick option 1, I think. Love and affection might be amongst the top 3 of things that would improve my quality of life, though that doesn't even really capture the importance. They would make my life worth living in a way it has not been up till now.

That being said, I am ideologically possessed and not a day goes by where I don't feel intense anger and despair, triggered by all the unfairness and dishonesty and misery I see. There is a specific type of person who can not stop caring and for those people / us getting to right the wrongs we percieve in the world might be even more important for our mental well-being than love. Though I have only ever seen other people like that online.


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Based high consciousness cel
 
Shit is so stupid I can't even get mad. "No one is entitled to anything" is only ever used for us. Are the poor entitled to financial support? The crippled? The sick? The disadvantaged of any kind? Apperently we live in a society that tries to equalize the innate unfairness of the world in most cases. But no in ours. They lie about the root cause, because if they accepted that we (and men in general) are inherently disadvantaged, that would make us eligible for sympathy and support.

Once you have a roof over your head and aren't freezing or starving to death, being loved, experiencing affection, finding a partner, having sex... those are some of the most valuable and important things for your well-being. Far more important than comfort and absolute security.

Yet, just by being born ugly (and male) or neurodivergent (and male) many of us will be denied those things for much of our life. While women are guranteed them just because they are born with the more valuable sex cells. That is an obvious inequality that needs addressing.

What makes it even more ridiculous is how this society is constantly forcing equality to the benefit of women in every domain they can pretend to be disadvantaged in. Why are you entitled to female only scholorship programs? To """equal pay""" (a percieved imbalance based on faulty perception and statistical illiteracy)? You can make a list hundreds of pages long with all the domains in which women are demanding things they feel entitled to. Why are fat women entitled to be percieved as "attractive". As "just fine the way they are"?

These braindead whores get everything for themselfs and feel no need to share because they don't care about our plight in the slightest. Amoral scum happily letting a solid portion of an entire generation of men live a life devoid of love and affection and intimacy. One can only hope they some day get held accountable for their amoral selfishness and cruelty.
That’s why shooting them is self defense
 

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