JFL A radical feminist take on women and incels

[Lv99_BixNood]

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Here are several things I learned about women from women:

1. Women are not innocent. Thinking that women are innocent, gentle, more emotional, enlightened, etc. is in fact engaging in sexist thinking and a form of distorted thinking because women do not possess these traits in reality. At the same time, thinking that men are cruel, unemotional, more logical, is also engaging in sexist thinking. Individuals may possess certain traits, but not people of an entire gender.
2. Patriarchy is real and women support patriarchy. Patriarchy is men's domination over women in all dimensions. It has been a historical and present reality. Women die under patriarchy 24/7. And most women throughout history also support and maintain patriarchy. This is because women actively benefit from patriarchy. At the very basic level, patriarchy offers women protection. Women are also not shy when it comes to dominating other women. Similarly, just because men's domination over women exists, it does not mean that all men are equal beneficiary from patriarchy. These are not contradictory thoughts. Patriarchy is not an exclusive club for men.
3. Masculism is a form of patriarchy and women support masculism. Masculinism is a special form of patriarchy where men seen as possessing masculine traits should dominate over people who do not possess them. Women support masculism despite that it dominates themselves. These are not contradictory thoughts. A good article that define this concept is Laura Butera's thesis "Height, Power, and Gender: Politicizing the Measured Body."
4. Heightism is a byproduct of masculism. Shortness is seen as a non-masculine/feminine feature. Because women on the whole supports masculism, therefore they also discriminate against feminine features such as height in both men and women. Interalized oppression is real.
5. Women benefit from intersectional oppression. A woman is not only defined by her gender, but also by other factors such as economic status, class, and race. If a woman occupies any privilege position (wealthy, high class, white), then she is fully capable of oppressing against men who do not occupy those privileged positions, despite the existence of patriarchy.
6. The term incel disguises oppression by women. Imagine this is the 1800s and African slaves were referred to as "incel" by their slave-owning mistresses for being "uppity" about their situation. Women are just capable in engaging in oppression against men both on the group as well as individual basis. The existence of patriarchy does not deny this possibly, because women also engage in patriarchy and perform oppression through patriarchy. A woman is almost always uplifted by other types of inequalities. In some ways, incel is a form of "othering" and scape-goat towards one's own acts of oppression.

Thots?

 

[Den66kj]

Dnr

 

[Icarus]

Jfl at the "(sociology major)".

Like that actually means anything

 

[pixy.]

Some half truths mixed in with bullshit and shifting the blame to "muh patriarchy" for political purposes instead of the real cause of sexual liberation. She's just another leftist intelligentsia doing what they do best, manipulating language for their own gain while pretending to care.

 

[AsiaCel]

I've always said that.

Radical ideologies, whether left or right, are the only ones to accurately diagnose society's problems, but the right wing tends to offer better solutions.

OP is correct in that there is a "patriarchy" and women benefit from it; but it's a very specific form of "patriarchy", ones that give to foids and none to (most) men; chads arguably dominate the the whole thing, along with the beta simps as backup/welfare. But this is all biological.

 

[SoycuckGodOfReddit]

fun post ngl

 

[SoycuckGodOfReddit]

Some half truths mixed in with bullshit and shifting the blame to "muh patriarchy" for political purposes instead of the real cause of sexual liberation. She's just another leftist intelligentsia doing what they do best, manipulating language for their own gain while pretending to care.

idk if it's a foid, they seem to be an r/shortguys poster who mainly posts about heightism

in fact they mentioned being a guy:

I think this post is a satirical take on radical feminist theory, hence why they cite dworkin's more odd statements

 

[Freixel]

Just blame men for female hypergamy theory

 

[Kamanbert]

Lmao so it just comes to a dead point where everything is "patriarchy" and "masculism" fault anyway. How groundbreaking !

1. Women are not innocent

Yep, then the next step, going above his/her own acknowledgement that women can be unemphatic, etc, would be to hold them accountable for their actions instead of ultimately blaming it on men instead. What a piece of fucking shit take, it blows my fucking mind. It's like his idea is good initially, then he's half-assing it completely.

He's basically saying the "women are wonderful effect" stems from benevolent sexism but then he obviously refuses to hold them accountable for their actions, like they have no agency of their own and everything is patriarchy's fault. Yeah right buddy what a stinky reddit post. But that's reddit...

 

[MacheteRape]

Radical ideologies, whether left or right, are the only ones to accurately diagnose society's problems, but the right wing tends to offer better solutions.

Diagnose, yes. Radical leftists think the cure is more of the disease; our people see that the cure is to cut out the cancerous, festering wound in the nation’s arm before the infection spreads.

 

[deleted fren]

Dnr

 

[littlemanhikicel]

Some half truths mixed in with bullshit and shifting the blame to "muh patriarchy" for political purposes instead of the real cause of sexual liberation. She's just another leftist intelligentsia doing what they do best, manipulating language for their own gain while pretending to care.

This

 

[Repulsive123]

Dnr