Experiment a newbie's question

[drajeto23]

Up until a few weeks ago I hadn't heard of the incel community but got on because it seemed to perfectly describe me. The biggest problem I have with normies is the whole "they think they are owed sex" argument which is complete bs to me. I personally just wanted a lifelong relationship with someone who cared for me and wasn't even so much about the sex. So my actual question is: Is there any truth to that statement or more appropriately how would you describe your wants?

 

[Moustachcel]

i just want to have somebody which loves me and which i can love and can have sex with because being lonely sucks and can increases early death by 45% higher than extreme obesity

 

[KungFuKenny1999]

i just want to have somebody which loves me and which i can love and can have sex with because being lonely sucks and can increases early death by 45% higher than extreme obesity

 

[StormlitAqua]

Sup newcel.

The thing you want really isn't that viable in the 21st century, due to what has happened to our culture. Feminism has won and hypergamy has taken over. When you enter a relationship with a woman, she's not yours, it's just your turn. You are not important to the women, only what you have and what you are. We have made it socially acceptable for women to bounce around between men, and we no longer condemn pre-marital sex or sluttery of any type. Why would any woman love you exclusively when there are many many more men out there way more qualified than you? The top 80% of women share the top 20% of men, and unless you're that, good luck.

The only way to achieve what you want is to do what I'm trying to: find a virgin Christian woman who was raised in a patriarchal family. These women are your only hope for true love and for women who actually care for you. Even then, how "true" the love is is up for debate, but at least she'll understand how love and marriage is a duty and will be much less likely to leave you.

 

[Henry de Montherlant]

Sex is a thing of course but most people here rather lack a confidant soul to spend eternity with.

 

[metal]

I am alone and with no aspirations

 

[drajeto23]

Sup newcel.

The thing you want really isn't that viable in the 21st century, due to what has happened to our culture. Feminism has won and hypergamy has taken over. When you enter a relationship with a woman, she's not yours, it's just your turn. You are not important to the women, only what you have and what you are. We have made it socially acceptable for women to bounce around between men, and we no longer condemn pre-marital sex or sluttery of any type. Why would any woman love you exclusively when there are many many more men out there way more qualified than you? The top 80% of women share the top 20% of men, and unless you're that, good luck.

The only way to achieve what you want is to do what I'm trying to: find a virgin Christian woman who was raised in a patriarchal family. These women are your only hope for true love and for women who actually care for you. Even then, how "true" the love is is up for debate, but at least she'll understand how love and marriage is a duty and will be much less likely to leave you.

I'm from ex-eastern bloc and here we don't have many if any religious families. Ironically it's the commie-haters here that killed these values.

 

[RodgersSecondAdvent]

Up until a few weeks ago I hadn't heard of the incel community but got on because it seemed to perfectly describe me. The biggest problem I have with normies is the whole "they think they are owed sex" argument which is complete bs to me. I personally just wanted a lifelong relationship with someone who cared for me and wasn't even so much about the sex. So my actual question is: Is there any truth to that statement or more appropriately how would you describe your wants?

Our wants are the same as yours, does it describe your wants? Women aren't owed us shit that's why they are to be made property through sheer force.

 

[StormlitAqua]

I'm from ex-eastern bloc and here we don't have many if any religious families. Ironically it's the commie-haters here that killed these values.

Shit man sorry to hear that. I'm from Midwest America so there's still alot of religious families around. IDK what your options are at this point, but still shoot for virgin. They're still statistically more likely to be loyal then non-virgins.

 

[Henry de Montherlant]

I'm from ex-eastern bloc and here we don't have many if any religious families. Ironically it's the commie-haters here that killed these values.

Americans automatically think "libtards" destroyed family values, but it's a more complexe and global phenomenon.

Countries who used to be communist are nostalgic of this mythical prosperous times, when they were seen as a potential alternative for the future world, while capitalists praise good ol' Americana from the 50's. It's just nostalgia of the lost power.

Countries that are not currently subjects of this kind of tetanizing nostalgia are inevitably going to be the first powers of tomorow.

 

[not_here_4_points]

As a disabled shut-in dealing with physical and mental illness and other unsatisfying things about my body, I'd want a body I can feel good in. Then a good woman to be mine and social competence and respect. And not to be tormented by so many bad memories.

 

[YungCell]

Yea man I used to think it was retarded that people thought all incels thought they were entitled to sex, even though most of us arnt but almost all women feel entitled to having men pay for there expenses and getting chads cock even if there landwhale but that's fine apparently.

 

[drajeto23]

Yea man I used to think it was retarded that people thought all incels thought they were entitled to sex, even though most of us arnt but almost all women feel entitled to having men pay for there expenses and getting chads cock even if there landwhale but that's fine apparently.

it's a double standard. Funny thing is how they talk about solidarity and tolerance for women and gays but when it comes to straight men they're a terrorist group.

 

[YungCell]

it's a double standard. Funny thing is how they talk about solidarity and tolerance for women and gays but when it comes to straight men they're a terrorist group.

but a literal Islamic terrorist group will be defended under the guise of Islamophobia. Talk about a double standard

 

[caudino]

the whole "they think they are owed sex" argument which is complete bs to me

Sounds bullshit to me as well. On the other hand, ugly feminist femoids, I believe, do think they are owed sex by/with Chad. "Being owed", "being entitled", thinking is quite femoid IMHO. I guess men don't really think that way

 

[Deleted member 10124]

i just want to have somebody which loves me and which i can love and can have sex with because being lonely sucks and can increases early death by 45% higher than extreme obesity

This. I want a loving lustful life long term relationship with my soul mate.

but a literal Islamic terrorist group will be defended under the guise of Islamophobia. Talk about a double standard

This times infinity.

As a disabled shut-in dealing with physical and mental illness and other unsatisfying things about my body, I'd want a body I can feel good in. Then a good woman to be mine and social competence and respect. And not to be tormented by so many bad memories.

Hearing you loud and clear. Ditto.

 

[PM_ME_STRIPPERS]

when normies say that statement they say it with belief that anyone no matter what they look like can get a relationship sex, except that is far from the truth, because looks matter, and always will. It is the main factor of what makes a relationship

These days, women are very hypergamous and have very high standards, ur average 4/10 female will be going for a model looking chad, which is why its over for ugly males