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Discussion 9/11 Hijacking

Its not unusually convenient that objects made of paper survive a massive fireball/explosion and are able to be immediately recovered? You sound like a lunatic buddy
have you investigated if paper survives plane crashes with a giant fireball? I know you haven't.

Because the passport isn't the only piece of paper to survive the fireball. There was paper mail that was in the belly of the plane. There was wedding invitations. There were watches, id cards, jewelry, wallets, and plastic frequent flier cards all survived. There were unsinged pieces of people all over street. Hands, torsoes, etc.

And as I previously stated you can find many of the passengers personal possessions at the 9/11 museum.

So yes, things can and do survive the fireball.

And like I said, there were thousands of New Yorkers walking amongst the debris. A passport would stick out.

ANd it's kinda irrelevant anyway. The hijackers paid their tickets with their own credit cards. They had manifests with their names. They had people on airphones telling airline employees what seats the terrorists were sitting in. They had rental cars in their name. They had documentation of taking flying lessons in the actual car they left at the airport.

The papertrail really is a mile long of the terrorist being involved.
 
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have you investigated if paper survives plane crashes with a giant fireball? I know you haven't.

Because the passport isn't the only piece of paper to survive the fireball. There was paper mail that was in the belly of the plane. There was wedding invitations. There were watches, id cards, jewelry, wallets, and plastic frequent flier cards all survived. There were unsinged pieces of people all over street. Hands, torsoes, etc.

And as I previously stated you can find many of the passengers personal possessions at the 9/11 museum.

So yes, things can and do survive the fireball.

And like I said, there were thousands of New Yorkers walking amongst the debris. A passport would stick out.

ANd it's kinda irrelevant anyway. The hijackers paid their tickets with their own credit cards. They had manifests with their names. They had people on airphones telling airline employees what seats the terrorists were sitting in. They had rental cars in their name. They had documentation of taking flying lessons in the actual car they left at the airport.

The papertrail really is a mile long of the terrorist being involved.
I'm not even disputing that arab terrorists were involved and piloted the planes into the twin towers. Is it possible that the paper passports survived the wreckage, yes though unlikely. The footage I saw had lots of personal items everywhere though I tend to believe they came from the offices themselves. I'm not even that invested in this one little detail. If you want to pretend like this is some huge gotcha then fine, lets say for the purposes of this argument that the official story with regard to the passport retrieval is not fabricated in any way. You still have to explain the suspicious circumstances surrounding the owner of the building. The israelis who witnesses saw filming the towers being attacked and celebrating, ie dancing israelis. The fact that this event fit in perfectly with what the jewish neocons described as a catalytic event to bring the US military into the middle east at the behest of israel. Netanyahu ADMITTING that 9/11 was good for israel. There's much bigger evidence for this being an inside job and you don't want to touch any of it
 
I'm not even disputing that arab terrorists were involved and piloted the planes into the twin towers. Is it possible that the paper passports survived the wreckage, yes though unlikely. The footage I saw had lots of personal items everywhere though I tend to believe they came from the offices themselves. I'm not even that invested in this one little detail. If you want to pretend like this is some huge gotcha then fine, lets say for the purposes of this argument that the official story with regard to the passport retrieval is not fabricated in any way. You still have to explain the suspicious circumstances surrounding the owner of the building. The israelis who witnesses saw filming the towers being attacked and celebrating, ie dancing israelis. The fact that this event fit in perfectly with what the jewish neocons described as a catalytic event to bring the US military into the middle east at the behest of israel. Netanyahu ADMITTING that 9/11 was good for israel. There's much bigger evidence for this being an inside job and you don't want to touch any of it
It's not a big gotcha. It's the level of detail we have to examine to determine the truth of something and just don't take what a conspiracy video told you upon face value as true. Paper can and does regularly survive a fireball,

Above you claim that the "dancing israelis" were set up before the attacks.

That isn't true because in the police report the witness who saw them came out after being told of the first plane hitting the towers. She went outside with binoculars to look at the towers and then saw the israelis. So people claiming that they were set up before the towers were hit have no evidence that this is the case. They heard of the attacks and went outside like everyone else did at that time.

The Israelis were happy because for years terrorists would suicide bomb Israel. This went on constantly in the 1980s. So because America was being suicide bombed by planes, they would get more support for their cause in Israel.

After the planes had crashed, and the Israelis stopped to watch like everyone else and were happy for the above reason. She thought it was strange they were happy about it, so she reported it.

Some stupid things people say: They had bombs in their moving van. No, they didn't.

The had cash on them. They're a moving company who would get paid in cash.

They had maps with marks on them. Yeah, like moving people have.

"Documenting the event" means they were secret agents. No, they were non-native English speakers describing what they did do: take pictures like everyone else.

There is no proof Israel was involved in any way other than the normal antisemitic nonsense people spew on a regular basis around here.
 
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