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"80% of males are/will become incels" is delusional and turbo-cope

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Even in 50.000 BC, when there's was no cultural pressure for monogamy or even civilization and chads and femoids have the ultimate and final word almost 50% of men managed to reproduce, how much of an low IQ will made you believe that right now with all those things included suddenly that percentage will go lower that that.

The reality is that the truecel permavirgin population will remain in the same percentage as it was since forever(5%) and failed normies(normies that managed to have sex and relationships in the past but are still very closer to the bottom compared to the rest) will increase, not being able to make families, with cucking and polygamy increasing between normies and Chads.

TBH loth of Copers and larpers thinking that our fight is a fight for all men vs Chad and females when we will be always be a minuscule percentage
 
Rape was the main mating strategy for majority of men, which is why men pretend to be nice to femoids, try to blend in with them, etc. It's from long ago to try and seclude her, then rape her

Oh and now think about what happens to a man who rapes a woman in modern society
 
1.There is surely more than 10% male virgins...
2.Number of guys that aren't virgins but they can't get sex for years is surely much higher number

altogether, there is at least 30-40% of male population that are in involuntary celibacy
 
women had no acces to chad from 100 miles away.
 
Rape was the main mating strategy for majority of men, which is why men pretend to be nice to femoids, try to blend in with them, etc. It's from long ago to try and seclude her, then rape her

Oh and now think about what happens to a man who rapes a woman in modern society
Lol that exactly why females hate ugly men so much, is a biological adaption because that sexual estrategy ruined their plans to carried their sexual imperatives, the incels on the past if they were not killed at birth they will at close watch by the males of the tribe at petition of the woman, the one's that managed to even reproduce via raping must be less that 1% because the vast majority that will tried so will be murdered for it.
 
Even in 50.000 BC, when there's was no cultural pressure for monogamy or even civilization and chads and femoids have the ultimate and final word almost 50% of men managed to reproduce, how much of an low IQ will made you believe that right now with all those things included suddenly that percentage will go lower that that.

The reality is that the truecel permavirgin population will remain in the same percentage as it was since forever(5%) and failed normies(normies that managed to have sex and relationships in the past but are still very closer to the bottom compared to the rest) will increase, not being able to make families, with cucking and polygamy increasing between normies and Chads.

TBH loth of Copers and larpers thinking that our fight is a fight for all men vs Chad and females when we will be always be a minuscule percentage

Your wrong. Where are you getting this Statistics? 50,000 BC most men died before age 30. More men reproduce today than 50,000 years ago as the mortality rate for men was a lot higher back then.

Incels will always be the minority. Plenty of ugly people reproduce I see it everyday.

Incel is usually psychological factors + physical factors. Not just one or the other.
 
Rape was the main mating strategy for majority of men, which is why men pretend to be nice to femoids, try to blend in with them, etc. It's from long ago to try and seclude her, then rape her

Oh and now think about what happens to a man who rapes a woman in modern society
:lul:
 
women had no acces to chad from 100 miles away.
Yes they do it, because Females were not only capable to choose who get and who doens't they were also capable of choose who enter the tribe and who doens't, think of bononos, a tribeless chad will just have to travel until the most closer tribe and be instantly accepted by the females co-ruling it.
Still more that 20%
1.There is surely more than 10% male virgins...
2.Number of guys that aren't virgins but they can't get sex for years is surely much higher number

altogether, there is at least 30-40% of male population that are in involuntary celibacy

The number of male virgins at 25 are that, 5%
And if you manage to get sex but are in an spell you are not incel but a failed normie.
 
Back in the day looks mattered less. If you were Powerful all the females had to fuck you.
 
Cope.

Compare the the y-axis scale. Ratio is about 1:4. Only 25% reproduced.
https://psmag.com/.image/c_limit,cs_srgb,q_auto:good,w_700/MTI4ODMwNDQ5ODU3MzY5MzYy/men-women-reproducingpng.webp

And in africa it's still bad:
aufzeichnen-png.49262


I plan to dig up more data from this study, no time so far.

It was a fight men vs men and only the strongest bred.
 
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Yes they do it, because Females were not only capable to choose who get and who doens't they were also capable of choose who enter the tribe and who doens't, think of bononos, a tribeless chad will just have to travel until the most closer tribe and be instantly accepted by the females co-ruling it.
Still more that 20%


The number of male virgins at 25 are that, 5%
And if you manage to get sex but are in an spell you are not incel but a failed normie.

what bonobos? humans settled down and the males didnt leave the settlement to find a new one.
 
Your wrong. Where are you getting this Statistics? 50,000 BC most men died before age 30. More men reproduce today than 50,000 years ago as the mortality rate for men was a lot higher back then.

Incels will always be the minority. Plenty of ugly people reproduce I see it everyday.

Incel is usually psychological factors + physical factors. Not just one or the other.

https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success

The second is questionable but still evades the point, even if the most hardest era more that 20% of men reproduced

Back in the day looks mattered less. If you were Powerful all the females had to fuck you.

Cope that era was peaceful, the additional requierements were just don't be permanently sick but tall and good-looking man were still in the top.
Cope.

Compare the the y-axis scale. Ratio is about 1:4. Only 25% reproduced.
https://psmag.com/.image/c_limit,cs_srgb,q_auto:good,w_700/MTI4ODMwNDQ5ODU3MzY5MzYy/men-women-reproducingpng.webp

And in africa it's still bad:
aufzeichnen-png.49262

We have the double of female ancestors that males and 90% of females at history managed to reproduce, half of 90 is 45, learn maths noob
 
even 50% is balls dropping extreme. so was one out of two people incel?
 
We have the double of female ancestors that males and 90% of females at history managed to reproduce, half of 90 is 45, learn maths noob

Where? I see quadruple.

Left graph ~25, right one ~100 at 50000 years ago

And for "today" 525/150 would still be 3,5.
 
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so it was almost 80 even without tinder.
 
I don't think 80% of men will ever be incel, that's a bit high, but I do think that modern society makes the incel problem worse.

I think there have probably always been some sexually unsuccessful men... not nearly as many as there are now.
 
You don't need to be a truecel permavirgin to qualify as incel. Do you really think that a man who is able to get non-escort sex once and then goes without sex involuntarily for, say, 6 years isn't incel?
 
It always come to the definition of incel.

If you define only truecels (permavirgins, never kissed, etc) as incels, only a small percentage of men are incels. Like 10% or so.

But if you go by that "a considerate time without sex and relationships", or having to date below looksmatch level, betabuxxing, etc, LOTS of men are incels or at least have been for a while.
 
Oh Lordy not this again... how many times a day do we need to have a thread on the 80:20 ratio?
 
You don't need to be a truecel permavirgin to qualify as incel. Do you really think that a man who is able to get non-escort sex once and then goes without sex involuntarily for, say, 6 years isn't incel?
Those that can only get sex with prostitutes will respond that they are virgins(because they technically are) or will not participate at all.

However, is still less that 10%.

We had topic on this forum few days ago https://incels.is/threads/mainstream-media-one-in-8-millenial-is-a-virgin.81124/#post-1533527

1/8 = 12.5% I think that real percentage is higher

There's a lot of voluntary female virgins, those stats don't include gender

It always come to the definition of incel.

If you define only truecels (permavirgins, never kissed, etc) as incels, only a small percentage of men are incels. Like 10% or so.

But if you go by that "a considerate time without sex and relationships", or having to date below looksmatch level, betabuxxing, etc, LOTS of men are incels or at least have been for a while.


10%? think less than that, 5% dispersed around the globe seems accurate according to official statistics and my personal experiences.

If we will start counting as "incel" men that got six months without sex we may include pornstarts and official gigachads since males of all kinds and colors for different reasons suffer long dry spells, the six months is ridicule, you are either a incel or you are not, failed normies that get sex here and there in the year are still not incel.
 
10%? think less than that, 5% dispersed around the globe seems accurate according to official statistics and my personal experiences.

If we will start counting as "incel" men that got six months without sex we may include pornstarts and official gigachads since males of all kinds and colors for different reasons suffer long dry spells, the six months is ridicule, you are either a incel or you are not, failed normies that get sex here and there in the year are still not incel.

But the line between incel and "failed normie" as you put it is thin. What if someone only had sex once like 10 years ago? What if twice? What if it were 5 years ago?

My personal definition is like this:

truecel: never gets absolutely anything despite massively trying with ridiculously low to non-existent standards; however, men who are REALLY hideous (deformed, etc) can claim trueceldom without having to try.

incel: can't get sex and relationships despite trying; escorts, betabuxx, experiences that happened years and years ago when their looks and the world were different, etc, don't count

mentalcel: any incel who's not deformed and never tried

normie: not Chad or Chadlite by any means but can get sex and relationships with SOME consistency (even if there are years of dry spells in-between)
 
But the line between incel and "failed normie" as you put it is thin. What if someone only had sex once like 10 years ago? What if twice? What if it were 5 years ago?

My personal definition is like this:

truecel: never gets absolutely anything despite massively trying with ridiculously low to non-existent standards; whoever men who are REALLY hideous (deformed, etc) can claim trueceldom without having to try.

incel: can't get sex and relationships despite trying; escorts, betabuxx, experiences that happened years and years ago when they're looks and the world were different, etc, don't count

mentalcel: any incel who's not deformed and never tried

normie: not Chad or Chadlite by any means but can get sex and relationships with SOME consistence (even if there are years of dry spells in-between)

This x 1000. This is what I was attempting to argue earlier
 
But the line between incel and "failed normie" as you put it is thin. What if someone only had sex once like 10 years ago? What if twice? What if it were 5 years ago?

My personal definition is like this:

truecel: never gets absolutely anything despite massively trying with ridiculously low to non-existent standards; however, men who are REALLY hideous (deformed, etc) can claim trueceldom without having to try.

incel: can't get sex and relationships despite trying; escorts, betabuxx, experiences that happened years and years ago when their looks and the world were different, etc, don't count

mentalcel: any incel who's not deformed and never tried

normie: not Chad or Chadlite by any means but can get sex and relationships with SOME consistency (even if there are years of dry spells in-between)
Matou.

Anyways, OP is correct. Sub8 law and 80:20 scale is the most retarded thing already produced in the incelosphere. These 2 theories only have consistency on tinder.

Incels are like 12% of the male population in the west and the fraction of truecels inside this is even smaller.
 
Matou.

Anyways, OP is correct. Sub8 law and 80:20 scale is the most retarded thing already produced in the incelosphere. These 2 theories only have consistency on tinder.
Exactly. People who believe it are all mentalcels whose only experience with women was creating a shitty Tinder profile, swiping for some days (probably with considerable standards) and then failing and saying they're incel.

Tinder is only for super good-looking males, especially if you're aiming for anything other than landwhales and hideous monsters. If you have 0 standards, you have to be at least like 6/10. If you have standards, then the sub8 law applies.

But outisde of Tinder, Chadlites and normies do have sex.
 
Even in 50.000 BC, when there's was no cultural pressure for monogamy or even civilization and chads and femoids have the ultimate and final word almost 50% of men managed to reproduce,

The fact that less than half of men reproduced during a time period when there was zero birth control (meaning almost all sexually active men were getting women pregnant) directly contradicts your point.

Also monogamy is on it's way out. Society's attitude towards monogamy is changing rapidly, particularly among the younger generations. In a few decades it will be completely gone and it will be remembered as a horrible thing that evil males enforced to control women.

https://incels.is/threads/open-poly-relationships-are-quickly-becoming-the-norm.80862/
 
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The fact that less than half of men reproduced during a time period when there was zero birth control (meaning almost all sexually active men were getting women pregnant) directly contradicts your point.

Also monogamy is on it's way out. Society's attitude towards monogamy is changing rapidly, particularly among the younger generations. In a few decades it will be completely gone and it will be remembered as a horrible thing than evil males enforced to control women.

https://incels.is/threads/open-poly-relationships-are-quickly-becoming-the-norm.80862/

Is obviously that making monogamy disappear will made a lot of people don't have the same sexual activity that if we were under monogamy, my point is against people claiming that only 7-9 will be the only that have sex(some are claiming that is happening right now) when that don't even happened even in the most brutal era where's there's was 0 pressure that may come from an urbanized way of living.
 
Is obviously that making monogamy disappear will made a lot of people don't have the same sexual activity that if we were under monogamy, my point is against people claiming that only 7-9 will be the only that have sex(some are claiming that is happening right now) when that don't even happened even in the most brutal era

Except that more or less IS what it was like during that time period.

https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success


Those that can only get sex with prostitutes will respond that they are virgins

Also this part is easily the most delusional thing you have posted in this thread. Men have far more motive to claim they are NOT virgins than than to claim that they are. This website is literally the only place where the opposite is true.
 
Except that more or less IS what it was like during that time period.

https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success

Also this part is easily the most delusional thing you have posted in this thread. Men have far more motive to claim they are NOT virgins than than to claim that they are. This website is literally the only place where the opposite is true.

The 17 for every 1 is a accumulative calculation, not a proportional one, if you you count how many females managed to reproduce vs how many men managed to do so. it will be 17 x 1, indeed, but if you other studies, you will be that proportionally we have half more female ancestors that males, that, means if 90 females managed to reproduce in all the history of humanitiy, then 45% of man managed to do so too.

https://tierneylab.blogs.nytimes.co...p=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=1


Yeah i'm pretty much was high during this one, my logic is that an hideous looking guy that can only get sex via hookers will be treated exactly the same as a virgin, or even worst, and since it's anonymous and you will probably feel like one if you are in that position, there's high chances you will contest yes as a virgin as much you will say not.

tbh i'm in favour of putting "only sex with hookers" in those census.
 
my logic is that an hideous looking guy that can only get sex via hookers will be treated exactly the same as a virgin, or even worst, and since it's anonymous and you will probably feel like one if you are in that position, there's high chances you will contest yes as a virgin as much you will say not.

I've known men who have lost their virginity to prostitutes and never had sex with a non-prostitute. They do not look at themselves as virgins at all. You could argue that they're coping even though they are technically not a virgin by any technical definition of the word, but the fact of the matter is almost no men who have had sex only with prostitutes will identify as a "virgin" to any capacity.
 
Incels will always be the minority. Plenty of ugly people reproduce I see it everyday.

Incel is usually psychological factors + physical factors. Not just one or the other.
 
am i the only one who thinks that even if only 45% of men reproduced, that still is fucking huge? that means right about 50% incels. without tinder. without cars. chad from 100 miles away was out of reach.
 

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