Blackpill Your personality is just as genetic as your appearance

[armis]

The brain is just as physical as the face and height, and until evidence for the soul is discovered it should be assumed that the brain is responsible for consciousness and personality. If personality is completely down to looks and upbringing, why do socially anxious and high-inhibition Chads exist? The "confidence" theory of the redpill is flawed because it implies that anyone can alter their physical brain with enough willpower and "positive thinking", this couldn't be further from the truth: even Chads depend on alcohol for their "liquid courage". Obviously personality is influenced massively by experiences while growing up but I'd argue that natural inhibition and confidence is more genetically influenced, contrary to the popular belief here that all Chads have low inhibition.

 

[Cacao]

this. dont know how people dont realise it.

 

[Angry_runt]

Yeah, but you can fake your personality as much as women can fake their looks with fakeup. Not that personality matters much, but to the extent that it does you can change how it appears to other people.

 

[Inbuddhist]

Not as genetics, but as "determined" yeah, it's genetics + environment.

Freewill is cope.

Even if the soul existed it won't save freewill, the question would still remain about how do this soul impact the physical world ? And based on what it informs it to take a decision instead of another +

 

[Zaetheus]

Not as genetics, but as "determined" yeah, it's genetics + environment.

Freewill is cope.

Even if the soul existed it won't save freewill, the question would still remain about how do this soul impact the physical world ? And based on what it informs it to take a decision instead of another +

Galaxy IQ

 

[Frottbott]

Free will has too exist in anybody with more than 1 dimension to their personality. There's too much there to just be a random process. I'm a painter dude. I did a massive (unfinished due to lack of foid depression and despair) painting of Hades and Persephone which I'll post below. It's 5x6 feet and I did it at 19, and I started art at 18. If free will doesn't exist, that means it was just a random coalescence of physics that created that painting (and it wasn't over 1 billion years through evolution or anything, but a random happening from one organism). Also, we experience free will, therefore free will exists. Those who run the dark side of the world want us believing in absolute nihilism because they are shitscum.

 

[Inbuddhist]

Free will has too exist in anybody with more than 1 dimension to their personality. There's too much there to just be a random process. I'm a painter dude. I did a massive (unfinished due to lack of foid depression and despair) painting of Hades and Persephone which I'll post below. It's 5x6 feet and I did it at 19, and I started art at 18. If free will doesn't exist, that means it was just a random coalescence of physics that created that painting (and it wasn't over 1 billion years through evolution or anything, but a random happening from one organism). Also, we experience free will, therefore free will exists. Those who run the dark side of the world want us believing in absolute nihilism because they are shitscum.

You don't seem to understand what determinism is.

Determinism doesn't imply a "random process", quite the contrary.

Good art though, but it has nothing to do with free-will.

You can see things from two levels horizons, both are correct, they are just different levels, for instance let's take love, you can talk about it from an internal, subjective first person qualitative point of view and say "love makes me feel this, and that, it goes with caring/affection/desire" and you can also talk about it from another point of view "a chemical process" one doesn't contradict the other.

Same apply for art, the fact that there is no free-will doesn't mean that you don't navigate extremely cloudy and thorny profound mental areas to "get your inspiration" or that you don't feel beauty and intensity when you do art, you seems to misunderstand what determinism implies.

"We experience free-will therefore free-will exist" is a bad argument. Not only it's false (we experience the impression of free-will, not free-will) but it would imply that hallucinating a ghost implies a ghost exist, feeling you are falling from your bed while you dream implies you are falling, feeling faith implies god exist etc. Philosophically that's a ridiculous argument.

 

[Frottbott]

You don't seem to understand what determinism is.

Determinism doesn't imply a "random process", quite the contrary.

But if you take the process back far enough you either reach a point where it's random or where free will was involved. I used to not believe in free will and wrote at length about it in my 20s so I'm pretty knowledgeable about it. Meditation is what connected me with my spirit and myself and made me realize how fucked science and determinism is.

 

[Deleted member 1252]

Yep, this is why free will is an illusion.

 

[Inbuddhist]

But if you take the process back far enough you either reach a point where it's random or where free will was involved. I used to not believe in free will and wrote at length about it in my 20s so I'm pretty knowledgeable about it. Meditation is what connected me with my spirit and myself and made me realize how fucked science and determinism is.

Free-will is conceptually impossible, it's an absurd concept that can't exist in any possible universe.

Either an action/process have causes = determined. No free-will.

Or have no causes/undetermined = random. No free-will.

And a mix of random/determined also doesn't give you free will.

It doesn't matter "what you used to believe in" that's not an argument.

And i don't see how meditation can connect you to free-will lol, meditation is keant to show that we don't control shit, that things come and go, just are, that there is no free-will. Free-will doesn't exist in buddhism or hibdouism for instance, the oriental philisophies that are the most connected to meditation
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[Ignas]

Chads get their confidence from their success experiences getting women

 

[AsiaCel]

There was a study about confidence being 50% genetic based.

Mix that with a shitty life because you are ugly (again, genetic)

Confidence is 100% genetic based.

 

[Frottbott]

Free-will is conceptually impossible, it's an absurd concept that can't exist in any possible universe.

Either an action/process have causes = determined. No free-will.

Or have no causes/undetermined = random. No free-will.

And a mix of random/determined also doesn't give you free will.

It doesn't matter "what you used to believe in" that's not an argument.

And i don't see how meditation can connect you to free-will lol, meditation is keant to show that we don't control shit, that there is no free-will. Free-will doesn't exist in buddhism or hibdouism for instance, the oriental philisophies that are the most connected to meditation
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I believed there was no spirit, but the meditation I was doing was to flood my body with awareness and feel what was going on in there. I noticed something - we have an aura. I could feel stuff happening outside my body. I also mapped out the chakra system without knowing what it was and found it perfectly correlated with the Hindu chakra system. So I discovered I had a spirit. Then I started aligning with stronger and stronger levels of universal truth. If you don't have this, you don't meditate period or you are just a beginner. JFL if you meditate and don't believe in spirituality, know science is all fake, and don't believe in free will. Direct experience will blow all of the lab shit that I DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO and know is all a lie away. People say it's fact, well where the fuck is it. I read books about it and can see through the bullshit right away. Succinct or it's a lie. That is a universal fucking law.

 

[Inbuddhist]

You can believe in an Aura, Spirit, the Ghost, Vishnu, or Harry Potter, it doesn't make free-will any more possible.

You can't just posit some mystical stuff like Aura/Soul and say "therefore free-will" you have to explain how does this thing can make free-will possible.

Like i said, either an action/process/choice is determined by factors : determined, no free-will.

Or it isn't caused by any factor = random. Randomness isn't free-will.

Free-will is just conceptually absurd. You can add all the shakra you want, it doesn't change a thing.

And i don't even see how you can "experience free-will" obviously we experience making choices, that's not experiencing free-will. Experience free-will would entail something impossible, since free-will is itself an impossible/absurd concept.

 

[Frottbott]

You can't just posit some mystical stuff like Aura/Soul and say "therefore free-will" you have to explain how does this thing can make free-will possible.

Free will is way more complicated and has no explanation that I know of. I was explaining how meditation got me in contact with my spirit. It took 2 years btw. Was another 3 or so before I started believing in free will and now it's like an absolute concrete truth that I just experience and the sensation of having free will grows every single day. I know that nobody could exist without free will but I sure as fuck can't explain it. Just like I can't explain how infinite time or space exists. But free will is much harder to explain. What you said, and I get where you're coming from, doesn't disprove free will. We're pretty fucking magical dude. It's a serious insult to all life to say free will doesn't exist and this world shits on humanity constantly.

Consider how easily and effortlessly I can say free will exists, and how deeply I have to travel into lies and bullshit to explain how free will cannot exist, which I will do now.

A being cannot choose it's own personality from the start, so it has to have a baseline personality. Thus even God could not have free will. So it acts based on it's original makeup even if it chooses it's own personality. Then from there it creates based on it's baseline self which had nothing to do with choice, so all actions come out of that baseline and everything comes from the original baseline which had nothing to do with free will. See? I understand the premise but it was hard to write and is full of shit. Free will is just a package that we come with. Even if it's just freedom of choice, and I feel it's much more than that, I don't see why it's so hard to understand. The harder I try to not believe in free will, the more the feeling of having free will comes to the surface because all that is false fades away. Who's to even say that this baseline personality would have influence over the choices made? We can feel one thing and do another. More proof of free will.

 

[incelgration]

Yes, I have seen research which shows self esteem is mostly genetic. Genetics + early childhood determines 90% of your personality. Long, intensive therapy can change it little bit but not that much.