Serious You make incels look retarded, please be consistent!

[itsmemario]

Honestly things are getting ridiculous.
When someone posts an ugly ,short guy with a girl you all cry "cherry picking" but when, a fat bitch with a chad comes up you act like it represents something.
I'm not sayng this to defend woman i want to deffend common reason.
I see more and more anecdotal evidences and random tweets treated as facts, statistics pulld out off your asses based on nothing quantifiable, burden of proof ignored etc...
You act like the retarded feminist sjw cunts when they make up stats about rape, and ignore facts about obesity. Don't be like those idiots, be better.
There is a lots of trouth heret hat people should know about but for every true statement there are 10 terarded and baseless, and noone will take the trouth seriously as long as it's surrounded with BS.

 

[everythingislava]

We've had plenty good posts including statistics, data from okc or large scale tinder trials etc that prove the blackpill - there is no need to prove it again and again. Anecdotes and specific examples are not posted to prove the blackpill on their own but rather to serve as a reminder.

However, if you try to disprove the blackpill then you are best advised to make a good post that disproves all the quality blackpilled posts rather than "I saw an ugly guy with a gl foid" shitposts.

All that being said you seem to be completely bluepilled, why are you even here?

 

[itsmemario]

We've had plenty good posts including statistics, data from okc or large scale tinder trials etc that prove the blackpill - there is no need to prove it again and again. Anecdotes and specific examples are not posted to prove the blackpill on their own but rather to serve as a reminder.

However, if you try to disprove the blackpill then you are best advised to make a good post that disproves all the quality blackpilled posts rather than "I saw an ugly guy with a gl foid" shitposts.

All that being said you seem to be completely bluepilled, why are you even here?

No, thats not what i'm saing. The blackpill does not need to be proven to other incels, but to normies. They might even understand the fact about the importance of looks and how common is cheating, but when they see someone state that 80%of can never have a normal relationship they won't believe anything from an incel after that.

 

[tooth monster]

80%of can never have a normal relationship they won't believe anything from an incel after that.

Bluepilled pansy

 

[itsmemario]

Bluepilled pansy

cope

 

[Modus Coperandi]

low iq post.

"chad with ugly foids" : "incel-looking-man with stacy"
=
1000:1 at best

even if you substitute "stacy" with "any girl" it's still something like 100:1

that's why it's called cherry picking.


there is no need for statistics or shitty arguments, this already is the common sense.

 

[itsmemario]

low iq post.

"chad with ugly foids" : "incel-looking-man with stacy"
=
1000:1 at best

even if you substitute "stacy" with "any girl" it's still something like 100:1

that's why it's called cherry picking.

This is what i'm talking about. "1000:1 at best" how do you know? Anything to back this up? Everyone is throwing out stats and numbers based on theyr own estimates like they were facts. I see chads fucking ugly foids, and i see hot bitches with rich ugly man, i can't tell what is more common, you can't eather, and i don't care because both are cherry pickings.

 

[singularitymaxx]

amoeba IQ, fat girls get 100s of matches on tinder you idiot

 

[itsmemario]

amoeba IQ, fat girls get 100s of matches on tinder you idiot

You don't get my point.

 

[Bronzehawkattack]

Consistency and fact never matters to them anyways. We have to have at least hundreds of scientifically backed blackpill threads, but the problem is that the people that you want us to convince dont read those, they only see us through filters like inceltears who will only show the worst we have to offer. They're not concerned with gaining a nuanced perspective on us.

 

[singularitymaxx]

You don't get my point.

microscopic IQ

 

[Modus Coperandi]

This is what i'm talking about. "1000:1 at best" how do you know? Anything to back this up? Everyone is throwing out stats and numbers based on theyr own estimates like they were facts. I see chads fucking ugly foids, and i see hot bitches with rich ugly man, i can't tell what is more common, you can't eather, and i don't care because both are cherry pickings.

I'm throwing out numbers to illustrate a point.
Math never represents reality anyway. It's a form of interpretation, but I digress.

Please learn to make a proper argument ok? What's the point in saying: "your argument sucks, bro. I don't care?"

If you seriously think rich ugly men with foids outnumber ugly foids with good looking men, than we must be living on different planets.

Since you're bothered by "numbers" let's make it mathematically consistent:

amount(Ugly men with gf) < amount(Ugly foids with bf)

are you happy now? no more evil numbers?
you see; this statement lacks the magnitude of the relation, hence why it's better to make them up.

 

[itsmemario]

Consistency and fact never matters to them anyways. We have to have at least hundreds of scientifically backed blackpill threads, but the problem is that the people that you want us to convince dont read those, they only see us through filters like inceltears who will only show the worst we have to offer. They're not concerned with gaining a nuanced perspective on us.

Yes that is true and sad, but i still believe that we should be better and have some integrity with our stats.

I'm throwing out numbers to illustrate a point.
Math never represents reality anyway. It's a form of interpretation, but I digress.

Please learn to make a proper argument ok? What's the point in saying: "your argument sucks, bro. I don't care?"

If you seriously think rich ugly men with foids outnumber ugly foids with good looking men, than we must be living on different planets.

Since you're bothered by "numbers" let's make it mathematically consistent:

amount(Ugly men with gf) < amount(Ugly foids with bf)

are you happy now? no more evil numbers?
you see; this statement lacks the magnitude of the relation, hence why it's better to make them up.

Funny, you talk about "proper argument" and your next step is a dumb strawman. I never said that rich ugly men with foids outnumber ugly foids with good looking men, i just said that i don't know and i don't care. And you still don't get what's my problem, you only restated your argument, whick is besides the point, i only used this subject as an example. But i could also bring up when people post that 50+ % of men are virgins and retarded shit like that. You are probable right about "amount(Ugly men with gf) < amount(Ugly foids with bf)" but that doesn't men that people should put some source behind what they sai.

 

[IsolationHurts]

Most people come here to cope, so i dont blame them when they seem to be as deluded as the average feminist tbh
But it is true that reading lies, generalizations on anecdotes and unbased claims and over and over and over makes this forum kind of pointless. Like those that think that 25% or 50% of males are lonely virgin incels lmao. Or the JBW "theory"....
Anyway, its part of the black pill to destroy not only bluepilled ideas but also copes so... gj OP.

 

[itsmemario]

Most people come here to cope, so i dont blame them when they seem to be as deluded as the average feminist tbh
But it is true that reading lies, generalizations on anecdotes and unbased claims and over and over and over makes this forum kind of pointless. Like those that think that 25% or 50% of males are lonely virgin incels lmao. Or the JBW "theory"....
Anyway, its part of the black pill to destroy not only bluepilled ideas but also copes so... gj OP.

Thank you, i want to shake you hand so much now, at least one person gets it.
I'd love to see the incel community and the blackpill be taken seriously, but the amoutn of missinformed bullshit makes it impossible.

 

[acnescarcel]

no matter what no one gives a fuck what we say or believes what we say anyway

 

[itsmemario]

no matter what no one gives a fuck what we say or believes what we say anyway

I think what i talked about has a big part in it, i may be naive but i believe that if it was presented better, incels would not be as hated and ridiculed as now.

 

[everythingislava]

No, thats not what i'm saing. The blackpill does not need to be proven to other incels, but to normies. They might even understand the fact about the importance of looks and how common is cheating, but when they see someone state that 80%of can never have a normal relationship they won't believe anything from an incel after that.

Sure, but that doesn't happen by posting on this forum anyways. This is primarily a place to vent - and while you are completely right in that 80/20 is often misunderstood that doesn't really matter all that much when it helps some people on here cope. You need to understand that this is a place full of mentally ill outcasts, expecting us to be 100% rational all the time, exclusively making high quality posts is just dishonest.

Venting etc. does not discredit the high quality posts.

Also, I have reason to believe that you are dishonest, I highly doubt that you are interested in blackpilling the public so much as you want to bluepill us. While venting threads surely do not help the cause neither did your low quality low IQ bluepill thread.

 

[Lord Byron]

Honestly things are getting ridiculous.
When someone posts an ugly ,short guy with a girl you all cry "cherry picking" but when, a fat bitch with a chad comes up you act like it represents something.
I'm not sayng this to defend woman i want to deffend common reason.
I see more and more anecdotal evidences and random tweets treated as facts, statistics pulld out off your asses based on nothing quantifiable, burden of proof ignored etc...
You act like the retarded feminist sjw cunts when they make up stats about rape, and ignore facts about obesity. Don't be like those idiots, be better.
There is a lots of trouth heret hat people should know about but for every true statement there are 10 terarded and baseless, and noone will take the trouth seriously as long as it's surrounded with BS.

There are absolutely logical contradictions and self serving reasoning being employed here. This is to be expected. Every group falls into a pattern of finding evidence to support what they believe, and dismissing that which does not.

I think this place is still miles better than places like a Reddit. There you are banned and your comments deleted if you post something that goes against the narrative. I have played devil’s advocate against several aspects of the black pill here and suffered no censorship.

That fact alone means that although incel logic may not always be perfect, this site has a culture that is still more intellectually honest than most normie sites.

 

[IsolationHurts]

Thank you, i want to shake you hand so much now, at least one person gets it.
I'd love to see the incel community and the blackpill be taken seriously, but the amoutn of missinformed bullshit makes it impossible.

You should also bear in mind that more than half of the people who post here are teenagers, larpers and fakecels imho (unbased claim btw) that could not care less about the way our community shows itself to the rest of the world
Suicidal people dont help either... they would believe anything that could facilitate their existence

That fact alone means that although incel logic may not always be perfect, this site has a culture that is still more intellectually honest than most normie sites.

Also this

 

[Deleted member 1983]

reminder that OP is the same guy who got invited to a party by normies and gets regular attnetion from a slightly overweight foid.

fuckoff greycel.

 

[itsmemario]

Sure, but that doesn't happen by posting on this forum anyways. This is primarily a place to vent - and while you are completely right in that 80/20 is often misunderstood that doesn't really matter all that much when it helps some people on here cope. You need to understand that this is a place full of mentally ill outcasts, expecting us to be 100% rational all the time, exclusively making high quality posts is just dishonest.

Venting etc. does not discredit the high quality posts.

Also, I have reason to believe that you are dishonest, I highly doubt that you are interested in blackpilling the public so much as you want to bluepill us. While venting threads surely do not help the cause neither did your low quality low IQ bluepill thread.

Thank you, at least you comment is more resoneable than the usual.Even if we put aside the argument about what we communicate to the outside world, many antics here are self destructive and wont help anybody, and i respect mentally ill people enough that i don't hold them to a lower standard in a conversation. I understand that someone can't be rational but those should not feed into each others delusions. And i don't know what gave you the impression that i want to bluepill anyone. I believe in the black pill but i disagree with how many people are using it. It's like reminding a cancer patient everi second that he is going to die, yes you shouldn't lie to them you can trye to let them feel better. i'm also guilty of this mentality sometimes. What im saying is that i acept the blackpill but i think it can coexist with a more positive attitude too.

reminder that OP is the same guy who got invited to a party by normies and gets regular attnetion from a slightly overweight foid.

fuckoff greycel.

It's ture but i don't see how that makes my point less credible.

 

[Henry de Montherlant]

amoeba IQ, fat girls get 100s of matches on tinder you idiot

You don't get my point.

microscopic IQ

High IQ

 

[Angus13]

Thank you, i want to shake you hand so much now, at least one person gets it.
I'd love to see the incel community and the blackpill be taken seriously, but the amoutn of missinformed bullshit makes it impossible.

I get some of those copes are baseless and ridiculous, however I will also add that it is far more likely to see women dating up than it is men, men can only do it if he is being used as a wallet. And even then he's technically getting beta-cuxxed. I don't have any official numbers but easy visual observation can tell you this.... I can think of hardly one, if that, any times I have ever seen a normal looking woman dating a man who was dwarven, or deformed, or morbidly obese, etc, but I have seen the reverse quite a few times.

But yeah it is ridiculous when some incels say shit like 80% of men are KHHV incels, or like when they act like anyone posting here in a fakecel if they so much as brushed hands with a foid in the hall way when they were kids or something, then act like IT and all the people attacking us are incels-in-denial.

 

[Dr. Rothschild]

Consistency and fact never matters to them anyways. We have to have at least hundreds of scientifically backed blackpill threads, but the problem is that the people that you want us to convince dont read those, they only see us through filters like inceltears who will only show the worst we have to offer. They're not concerned with gaining a nuanced perspective on us.

Jimmy neutron iq post

 

[Darthmat]

reminder that OP is the same guy who got invited to a party by normies and gets regular attnetion from a slightly overweight foid.

fuckoff greycel.

That feel when blackpilled normies offer some of the most insightful and intelligent posts while truecels only speak in memes or regurgitated bullshit.

 

[bakadesu]

amoeba IQ, fat girls get 100s of matches on tinder you idiot

 

[Deleted member 1983]

That feel when blackpilled normies offer some of the most insightful and intelligent posts while truecels only speak in memes or regurgitated bullshit.

feel free to put on ignore if you have a problem with me boyo.

 

[Darthmat]

feel free to put on ignore if you have a problem with me boyo.

Holy shit buddy I've never had a problem with you as your one of the good ones and your a non cancerous undertale fan. Sorry meant no foul.

 

[Robtical]

That feel when blackpilled normies offer some of the most insightful and intelligent posts while truecels only speak in memes or regurgitated bullshit.

What OP is saying isn't true. We have proof landwhales go way out their league, their are almost no examples where a man does it without heavy betabuxxing or being cucked. Post a landwhale on tinder and post a fat guy on tinder then see who gets more dates for free.

I see more and more anecdotal evidences and random tweets treated as facts, statistics pulld out off your asses based on nothing quantifiable, burden of proof ignored etc...

Those tweets are liked and retweeted thousands of times, a blackpill post will get no where near as much attention.

 

[itsmemario]

What OP is saying isn't true. We have proof landwhales go way out their league, their are almost no examples where a man does it without heavy betabuxxing or being cucked. Post a landwhale on tinder and post a fat guy on tinder then see who gets more dates for free.

Those tweets are liked and retweeted thousands of times, a blackpill post will get no where near as much attention.

Getting fucked by chat is not equal to having chad for a relationship. It happens but rare, and i would considere it as cherry picking as much as when ugly dudes get hot chicks.

 

[everythingislava]

Thank you, at least you comment is more resoneable than the usual.Even if we put aside the argument about what we communicate to the outside world, many antics here are self destructive and wont help anybody

Debatable. I doubt that collectively venting due to frustration is more destructive than being constantly confronted with dishonest advice that the likes of cucktears love to give.

i respect mentally ill people enough that i don't hold them to a lower standard in a conversation.

I don't think you understand my argument, I am not saying that people here are uncapable of being objective, I am saying that they shouldn't be expected to ALWAYS be objective like you want them to. Wanting a place to vent is perfectly valid and it's absurd to be judged for it.

And i don't know what gave you the impression that i want to bluepill anyone.

You really can't? You posted a thread where you gave the example of one below average dude apparantly being in a relationship with a above average foid without betabuxxing (so you claim). There is a multitude of reasons why that could be the case (eg she uses him for emotional support due to a bad breakup and will then move on) but it could also of course just be one of the few exceptions. That is the most stereotypical bluepilled argument there is which is why it is forbidden in the rules.

I believe in the black pill but i disagree with how many people are using it. It's like reminding a cancer patient everi second that he is going to die, yes you shouldn't lie to them you can trye to let them feel better. i'm also guilty of this mentality sometimes. What im saying is that i acept the blackpill but i think it can coexist with a more positive attitude too.

It's ture but i don't see how that makes my point less credible.

That is absolutely valid and I suggest you read these two threads:
https://incels.is/threads/the-pills-as-sets-blue-red-black-white.73696/
https://incels.is/threads/the-whitepill.74439/

The main issue is that you are also attacking the core of the blackpill so I suggest you at first fully accept the blackpill and then look into the whitepill.

 

[Robtical]

Getting fucked by chat is not equal to having chad for a relationship. It happens but rare, and i would considere it as cherry picking as much as when ugly dudes get hot chicks.

Fucking is everything. If you get a "relationship" you are getting chad's post wall leftover and betabuxxing to get starfish sex once a year. It's better to get a hooker than to be a cuck.

 

[itsmemario]

Debatable. I doubt that collectively venting due to frustration is more destructive than being constantly confronted with dishonest advice that the likes of cucktears love to give.

I agree with that, but there are distructive ventings going on other than venting.

You really can't? You posted a thread where you gave the example of one below average dude apparantly being in a relationship with a above average foid without betabuxxing (so you claim). There is a multitude of reasons why that could be the case (eg she uses him for emotional support due to a bad breakup and will then move on) but it could also of course just be one of the few exceptions. That is the most stereotypical bluepilled argument there is which is why it is forbidden in the rules.

I'm not sure what post are you talking about.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

Getting fucked by chat is not equal to having chad for a relationship. It happens but rare, and i would considere it as cherry picking as much as when ugly dudes get hot chicks.

JFL.

I think you might find r/trufemcels to be more receptive to your ideas and a more fruitful ground for the discussion thereof.

 

[KilluminoidBR]

I do agree that we have shit tier posters (MUH IF YOU ARE SUB8 ITS OVER IF U DONT LOOK LIKE BARRET ITS OVE BRAH) and that mods do not allow we to refute this shit.

This ofc not to mention the racists and fakecels here who do not get banned.

 

[itsmemario]

JFL.

I think you might find r/trufemcels to be more receptive to your ideas and a more fruitful ground for the discussion thereof.

Why would a true chad get in a relationship with a fat ugly foid when hot ones are standing in line for him? Don't get me wrong i don't give a fuck about what fat ugly chicks do, i'm only calling out bullshit.

I do agree that we have shit tier posters (MUH IF YOU ARE SUB8 ITS OVER IF U DONT LOOK LIKE BARRET ITS OVE BRAH) and that mods do not allow we to refute this shit.

This ofc not to mention the racists and fakecels here who do not get banned.

The rabbit hole is so deep, sometimes you can't tell what is obvious shitposting and what is delusion.

That feel when blackpilled normies offer some of the most insightful and intelligent posts while truecels only speak in memes or regurgitated bullshit.

I'm not sure if you ment it or it's sarcasm. About being a normie, i don't considere myfelf one, but i put a lot of effort in to fit with them, but i can't always relate to them.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

Why would a true chad get in a relationship with a fat ugly foid when hot ones are standing in line for him? Don't get me wrong i don't give a fuck about what fat ugly chicks do, i'm only calling out bullshit.

Point being that this is the line of argumentation that "femcels" pursue.

"It doesn't matter that I have never had any idea what it's like to be completely alone and unwanted, because I can't monopolize Chad Chadlington III for my personal use and that's like literally just as bad. I don't want "meaninglessness" with anyone and I don't want "meaning" with anyone sub-8. No one can understand the plight of the stronk womyn!"

Critically, cunts are able to get contact and affection, even if "superficial", from just about any man out there and are locked into perpetual striving misery only by their ridiculous standards, largely biologically inherent with a significant degree of hegemonic cultural reinforcement.

I do agree that we have shit tier posters (MUH IF YOU ARE ETHNIC

ITS OVER IF U AREN'T WHITE

ITS OVE BRAH) and that mods selectively enforce the racebait rule to allow for a recursive vomiting of JBW threads, but not anything else.

This ofc not to mention the Chad worshippers and fakecel hunters here who do not get banned.

High IQ

 

[itsmemario]

Point being that this is the line of argumentation that "femcels" pursue.

"It doesn't matter that I have never had any idea what it's like to be completely alone and unwanted, because I can't monopolize Chad Chadlington III for my personal use and that's like literally just as bad. I don't want "meaninglessness" with anyone and I don't want "meaning" with anyone sub-8. No one can understand the plight of the stronk womyn!"

Point being that cunts are able to get contact and affection, even if "superficial", from just about any man out there and are locked into perpetual striving misery only by their ridiculous standards, largely biologically inherent with a significant degree of hegemonic cultural reinforcement.

Yes, man have way more frustrations and problems with sex, that is ture. But that doesn't make distorted fatcs and plain madeup "facts" aceptable for me. We all should be able to bullshit, but as i see, calling out bullshit is gets a worst reaction than bullshit itself. To say that a made up stat is retarded doesn't mean bluepill.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

Yes, man have way more frustrations and problems with sex, that is ture. But that doesn't make distorted fatcs and plain madeup "facts" aceptable for me. We all should be able to bullshit, but as i see, calling out bullshit is gets a worst reaction than bullshit itself. To say that a made up stat is retarded doesn't mean bluepill.

"50% of men are incel right now" is an exaggeration, but take a look at the NORC statistics on adult celibacy. You see a fairly stable line slightly under 10% climb up damn near exponentially in the last few years. If things aren't that bad yet, there's a decent basis to forecast that it will be soon enough. Can you honestly take stock of the social structure around you and think that things are going to level off? Because things haven't been that bad before and so it is totally inconceivable that they ever will be? "Collapse" is written upon every surface of the world, comes screaming out of the holes rent in it by technological acceleration and liberalism.

The manifested blackpills, those that are "become", are potent in their own right. The incipient blackpills, those that are "becoming", defy simple empirical analysis, but are more ominous yet. Their forms are not directly apprehensible, but there is every reason to talk about them.

 

[itsmemario]

"50% of men are incel right now" is an exaggeration, but take a look at the NORC statistics on adult celibacy. You see a fairly stable line slightly under 10% climb up damn near exponentially in the last few years. If things aren't that bad yet, there's a decent basis to forecast that it will be soon enough. Can you honestly take stock of the social structure around you and think that things are going to level off? Because things haven't been that bad before and so it is totally inconceiavble that they ever will be? "Collapse" is written upon the surface of the world, comes screaming out of the holes rent in it by technological acceleration and liberalism.

The manifested blackpills, those that are "become", are potent in their own right. The incipient blackpills, those that are "becoming", defy simple empirical analysis, but are more ominous yet. Their forms are not directly apprehensible, but there is every reason to talk about them.

This is the exact reson why i call out bullshit. There are more and more incels, it's a problem and it can be prooven. But how can we expect anyone to take this seriously, when these real porblems are surrounded with exaggerated bullshit like 50% are incels. I hope you can see my point now.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

This is the exact reson why i call out bullshit. There are more and more incels, it's a problem and it can be prooven. But how can we expect anyone to take this seriously, when these real porblems are surrounded with exaggerated bullshit like 50% are incels. I hope you can see my point now.

It's just a simple adjustment of words - "50% of men are incel" to "50% of men will soon enough be incel". As far as I see around here, most have adopted the latter understanding. You'll always get shitposters, but the absurdity and frequency of their posts tends to obscure what most here actually believe. Those with a more tempered perspective aren't posting new threads constantly, versus a handful of people who shit out things like:

"[SuicideFuel] The average male height in uni is 6'8" because of GOOD GEENS"

"[RacePill] Ethnic girls would rather eat dead skin from the club foot of White man with Down syndrome than smile at an ethnic model"

"[Blackpill] If you didn't discover masturbation by rubbing against a model's thigh like a frenzied dog, it's over"

It's retarded fantasy, but you're not going to convince whatever fraction of people spam this stuff.

 

[itsmemario]

It's just a simple adjustment of words - "50% of men are incel" to "50% of men will soon enough be incel". As far as I see around here, most have adopted the latter understanding. You'll always get shitposters, but the absurdity and frequency of their posts tends to obscure what most here actually believe. Those with a more tempered perspective aren't posting new threads constantly, versus a handful of people who shit out things like:

"[SuicideFuel] The average male height in uni is 6'8" because of GOOD GEENS"

"[RacePill] Ethnic girls would rather eat dead skin from the club foot of White man with Down syndrome than smile at an ethnic model"

"[Blackpill] If you didn't discover masturbation by rubbing against a model's thigh like a frenzied dog, it's over"

It's retarded fantasy, but you're not going to convince whatever fraction of people spam this stuff.

As i said the line between shitpost and delusion i pretty blured here.
BTW i'm fine with shitposting, what pisses me of is this:
If you would post something that is not ture but appeares believeable for incels like: "more than half of all woman gets an abortion by age 30" you will get comments like: fuck those fucking sluts.. but if i call you out and say that this is nowhere the trouth, the real number is much less, than they will call me a bluepilled cuckfag and pertend that i'm protecting women when i'm not.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

As i said the line between shitpost and delusion i pretty blured here.
BTW i'm fine with shitposting, what pisses me of is this:
If you would post something that is not ture but appeares believeable for incels like: "more than half of all woman gets an abortion by age 30" you will get comments like: fuck those fucking sluts.. but if i call you out and say that this is nowhere the trouth, the real number is much less, than they will call me a bluepilled cuckfag and pertend that i'm protecting women when i'm not.

Aside from guesses about the proportion of male virgins in Western countries, do have examples of people actually fabricating numbers? I can't say I really see this kind of thing all too often.

 

[itsmemario]

Aside from guesses about the proportion of male virgins in Western countries, do have examples of people actually fabricating numbers? I can't say I really see this kind of thing all too often.

The virgin rate is the main but i see a lot more about dick size, height, cheating, percentage of ugly/good looking males/females...
And also those that are not told by statistics, but essencially mean the same. Like x&y almost alway happenes or x&y almost never happenes. Like pretending that a happy relationship can't exist if tha man is not 8+. Thats a far cry. And keep in mind, there are lots of dudes with mental problems here, maybe most of us can detect bullshit but how do you wknow what registeres for them as trouth because it staied unchallenged. Imagine a normie looking guy who has some problems that could be helped but he reads all the posts about how he has no hope and gives up, i'd guess there are many like this here.