RageFuel You know what's the funniest thing of all?

[Deleted member 20790]

If a Man wants to take testosterone, Its illegal. You can only get TRT (which gives you "average" testosterone levels) if your pre-existing levels are that of a Pre-teen foid.

But a tranny? They get it IMMEDIATELY upon request, all paid for by tax payer dollars.

So a man, who wants to raise his already existing hormones is barred by law to do so but the goverment will gladly sponsor a mentally ill FREAKS quest to mutilate their genitalia, pump themselves full of the opposite sex hormone and play dress up all in the name of fulfilling some fucked sexual fantasy.

CLOWN WORLD. I CANT FUCKING TAKE IT, THINKING ABOUT IT MAKES ME INFURIATED.

 

[trying to ascend]

 

[Deleted member 21768]

This gives me an idea. Can't you tell people you identify as female and want testosterone? When they say no and say you're male, say they're misgendering you as your pronouns are she/her and that kind of discrimination is demeaning, hateful, offensive, and very hurtful.
They would have to give you that testosterone.

 

[FUCKITALLREEE]

((((doctors)))) doesn't want to give testosterone to men because it's in the "normal range", even if it's low, is such fucking bullshit.
When their car is low on oil, i don't think they let it run until the engine fail because it's in "the normal range" of the stick.
But testosterone for a ftm though? 0.1 nanosecond and the paper is signed.

 

[your personality]

The world is very spiteful and petty about doing whatever it takes to foil incels' chance of easier ascension. They want you to struggle for it and jump at any perceived chance of ascending when it seems like it might be finally there so that getting laid ends up being a significant milestone where you beat the odds. Because doing that validates women's egos.
@ThoughtfulCel

 

[Deleted member 7448]

Every fucking thing that can help you is either fucking regulated and controlled so fucking heavily or just plain illegal. Testosterone, fucking antidepressants, things like Aderall, weed. Fucking hell, anything that could make a guy happy is fucking illegal. NO YOU JUST GO WAGESLAVE FOR THE REST OF YOUR FUCKING LIFE, DON'T YOU DARE TRY TO BE HAPPY.

 

[Angry_runt]

The world is very spiteful and petty about doing whatever it takes to foil incels' chance of easier ascension.

How would taking testosterone help incels to ascend? And if it's effective, why not get it anyway? Every gym has a bunch of guys that can get you anything you want.

 

[your personality]

How would taking testosterone help incels to ascend?

Framelets that don't have enough testosterone and are suspected of having low T would greatly benefit from more available testosterone.

And if it's effective, why not get it anyway?

Not everyone wants to break the law and knowing the bad luck incels have many will somehow get caught trying to illegally obtain testosterone.

Every gym has a bunch of guys that can get you anything you want.

That only works if you are NT and social and at least a bit respected by guys at the gym. That isn't true for framelets.

 

[Angry_runt]

Framelets that don't have enough testosterone and are suspected of having low T would greatly benefit from more available testosterone.

How? Testosterone will increase your muscle growth but have you even maxxed out your natural muscle growth?

 

[your personality]

@Angry_runt It's not possible to lift weights for extended periods of time without getting sprains and aches that last days if you are a framelet. Skinny wrists make lifting weights difficult even for brief periods of time. Small physical frame means lifting weights can easily overwhelm you and cause pain in your bones.

 

[Ecstasy]

Do you listen to Caribbean Rythems? BAP said a similar thing in a recent podcast

 

[Black Soul]

west-cucked societies NEVER have ceased to amaze me

 

[Angry_runt]

@Angry_runt are you saying you agree?

Posted post by accident.

It's a full fix but it definitely helps. Unless you are a pretty boy framelets have low SMV and are walked all over and pushed around no matter how they act. They also tend to be hard gainers.

What's even a framelet? If your frame is small, that's it and no amount of testosterone will help you actually enlarge it. You can camouflage your small frame with muscles and that can help you ascend (if there are foids who think you're cute but your shoulders are too narrow), but you can bulk up without roids to a point where your "frame" won't be an issue.

What I'm saying is if you think testosterone will help you, then weightlifting will also help you but it'll take longer and you'll have to be more disciplined.

So if you think looking bigger (wider) will help you, then at this moment you should either be lifting weights or shoveling chicken and rice down your gullet.

 

[your personality]

Posted post by accident.


What's even a framelet? If your frame is small, that's it and no amount of testosterone will help you actually enlarge it.

Ectomorph, skinny wirsts, narrow ribcage, long skinny noodle arms.

You can camouflage your small frame with muscles and that can help you ascend (if there are foids who think you're cute but your shoulders are too narrow), but you can bulk up without roids to a point where your "frame" won't be an issue.

Roids come with risk of hair loss and risk of shrinkage of dick size which is already bad for people that aren't well hung.

What I'm saying is if you think testosterone will help you, then weightlifting will also help you but it'll take longer and you'll have to be more disciplined.

As I'm about to post in the next line there's no way to consistently weightlift when you get chronic pains.

So if you think looking bigger (wider) will help you, then at this moment you should either be lifting weights

Believe me when I say this it's not possible to do that without suffering sprains and aches that last days in your wrists, back, shoulders and neck when you are a framelet.

or shoveling chicken and rice down your gullet.

Many incels have digestive problems and so can't bulk as easily. That's no exception with framelets. Also eating a lot of chicken and rice daily can cause you to throw up because some people are just genetically not used to eating that much. Tried following a bulking diet once when trying to get big and exercise but threw up several times that I tried doing it.

 

[Autismus Maximus]

"Geez doc don't be so uptight! I'm a woman, you see and I don't conform to traditional gender roles. That's why I have a beard and hair in my asscrack. And to be more of a gender-non-conforming woman, I need those test injections, I wanna be the butchest lesbian dike ever. Are you denying my body to become who I really am? Are you denying that I am a woman?"

 

[Angry_runt]

@Angry_runt It's not possible to lift weights for extended periods of time without getting sprains and aches that last days if you are a framelet. Skinny wrists make lifting weights difficult even for brief periods of time. Small physical frame means lifting weights can easily overwhelm you and cause pain in your bones.

What are you basing this on? I've known hundreds of gym rats and I've never heard of this. Have you tried weightlifting? Do you know the difference between DOMS and injuries? My wrists were girl-sized before I started lifting (I was kinda bullied into it by people saying I look weak), but it was never an issue. Where like 90% of people fail in the gym is they don't show up and they don't eat what they should be eating. If you're in the 10% that have some weird wrist-sprain illness, then my condolences I guess, but it's not because of your frame.

 

[your personality]

What are you basing this on? I've known hundreds of gym rats and I've never heard of this. Have you tried weightlifting?

Yeah I have. The most I can do is pushups, situps, planks and squats. Anything past that like lifting weights gives me sprains.

Do you know the difference between DOMS and injuries? My wrists were girl-sized before I started lifting (I was kinda bullied into it by people saying I look weak), but it was never an issue. Where like 90% of people fail in the gym is they don't show up and they don't eat what they should be eating.

I've never heard the word "DOMS" used in this context before. I've heard that wrists can get more endurable with wrist exercises but even those cause chronic sprain with my wrists. I'm aware that a lot of people that fail in the gym just don't show up as often as they should and don't have a "clean" healthy diet but I couldn't even get to that point because of the chronic pain that comes with even attempting lifting weights as mentioned before.

If you're in the 10% that have some weird wrist-sprain illness, then my condolences I guess, but it's not because of your frame.

I think that's it. That's also how I learned long time before that my genetics weren't suited for weightlifting.

 

[Angry_runt]

Ectomorph, skinny wirsts, narrow ribcage, long skinny noodle arms.

That's me. I still have a narrow ribcage but I built pretty big lats so visually it looks fine.

Roids come with risk of hair loss and risk of shrinkage of dick size which is already bad for people that aren't well hung.

I don't think roids affect dick size. Testicles can shrink, but it's reversible when you stop doing roids.
The hair loss thing is true (it will accelerate male pattern baldness if you're genetically predisposed) and there's even more serious side effects. Which is why you shouldn't even consider roids until you've maxxed out your natural potential (at which point you'll look wider than most normies).

As I'm about to post in the next line there's no way to consistently weightlift when you get chronic pains.

Probably, but you're not going to get chronic pains just because you have small wrists or whatever. You have a different problem, maybe see a doctor about it.

Believe me when I say this it's not possible to do that without suffering sprains and aches that last days in your wrists, back, shoulders and neck when you are a framelet.

Are you talking about DOMS? Because muscle aches days after workouts are normal for beginners and when you haven't been lifting for a while. I had a 2 weeks break over Xmas so now I have aches in my glutes, chest and triceps. That's why today I'll be doing back exercises. You work around what hurts

Many incels have digestive problems and so can't bulk as easily. That's no exception with framelets. Also eating a lot of chicken and rice daily can cause you to throw up because some people are just genetically not used to eating that much. Tried following a bulking diet once when trying to get big and exercise but threw up several times that I tried doing it.

Did you do that GOMAD shit? Because some bulking diets are pretty crazy especially if you can't digest dairy properly. Just find what kind of food you can eat, and then be a little above your maintenance calories until you see growth. If you have IBS or something like that, again my condolences but it has nothing to do with your frame.

 

[your personality]

That's me. I still have a narrow ribcage but I built pretty big lats so visually it looks fine.

You are lucky to have big lats.

I don't think roids affect dick size. Testicles can shrink, but it's reversible when you stop doing roids.

Murphy's Law comes in here: anything that could possibly go wrong could go wrong. And with incels it's even more amplified because as many here can attest to it seems fate itself is against them.

The hair loss thing is true (it will accelerate male pattern baldness if you're genetically predisposed) and there's even more serious side effects. Which is why you shouldn't even consider roids until you've maxxed out your natural potential (at which point you'll look wider than most normies).

The problem again is that I can't even maxx out what little natural potential I have.

Probably, but you're not going to get chronic pains just because you have small wrists or whatever. You have a different problem, maybe see a doctor about it.

I did and they recommended wrist exercises. That still didn't help when I tried doing it.

Are you talking about DOMS? Because muscle aches days after workouts are normal for beginners and when you haven't been lifting for a while. I had a 2 weeks break over Xmas so now I have aches in my glutes, chest and triceps. That's why today I'll be doing back exercises. You work around what hurts

Even if DOMs is what I'm experiencing it lasts way longer than it would usually for an average person. It's so bad I can't even walk around long before getting nauseous and so I'm mostly confined to bed.

Did you do that GOMAD shit?

I knew never to do that given how if I overeat even a bit I get really bad stomach aches and digestive problems.

Because some bulking diets are pretty crazy especially if you can't digest dairy properly. Just find what kind of food you can eat, and then be a little above your maintenance calories until you see growth.

Broccoli, rice and chicken are safer bulking diets but again even overeeating those a bit has bad consequences down the line that give me unnecessary issues that understandably I'd want to avoid.

If you have IBS or something like that, again my condolences but it has nothing to do with your frame.

Probably worse than that but not so much IBS. More IBS like conditions whenever my body is stressed in the way that the body is stressed during weight lifting. It's physiological even some of it may be purely psychological to start with idk.

Btw even with all this I'm pretty sure some of these issues could be alleviated with more testosterone. The science around how tesosterone and boosting it can have long reaching effects on health is not final. There is still a lot to be discovered. But with testosterone supplementation mostly out of legal reach there's no way of testing that hypothesis. But from some I have communicated with here I know I'm not the only one that has this issue. It definitely is very rare or if it isn't a lot of guys find it too weird and "weak" to talk about.

 

[Deleted member 21752]

Tell the doctors you identify as a woman identifying as a man
If they refuse cancel them on twitter

 

[Deleted member 27161]

Clownworld

 

[Lowdickenergycel]

 

[Angry_runt]

You are lucky to have big lats.

I got big lats from pullups and rows.

Murphy's Law comes in here: anything that could possibly go wrong could go wrong. And with incels it's even more amplified because as many here can attest to it seems fate itself is against them.

Steroids are not magic. If there's not a biological basis in the being able to shrink dicks then it won't happen.

Even if DOMs is what I'm experiencing it lasts way longer than it would usually for an average person. It's so bad I can't even walk around long before getting nauseous and so I'm mostly confined to bed.

My condolences then. If it's any consolation, a fitness-magazine-cover body didn't help me.

But with testosterone supplementation mostly out of legal reach there's no way of testing that hypothesis.

What can I say, I hope you can find some of this helpful mostly illegal substance that every gym is overflowing with.

 

[FlamingCel]

If a Man wants to take testosterone, Its illegal. You can only get TRT (which gives you "average" testosterone levels) if your pre-existing levels are that of a Pre-teen foid.

But a tranny? They get it IMMEDIATELY upon request, all paid for by tax payer dollars.

So a man, who wants to raise his already existing hormones is barred by law to do so but the goverment will gladly sponsor a mentally ill FREAKS quest to mutilate their genitalia, pump themselves full of the opposite sex hormone and play dress up all in the name of fulfilling some fucked sexual fantasy.

CLOWN WORLD. I CANT FUCKING TAKE IT, THINKING ABOUT IT MAKES ME INFURIATED.

 

[Subhuman Orangutan]

Every fucking thing that can help you is either fucking regulated and controlled so fucking heavily or just plain illegal. Testosterone, fucking antidepressants, things like Aderall, weed. Fucking hell, anything that could make a guy happy is fucking illegal. NO YOU JUST GO WAGESLAVE FOR THE REST OF YOUR FUCKING LIFE, DON'T YOU DARE TRY TO BE HAPPY.

Precisely this. And if you do ascend, be happy with your landwhale and drive off into the sunset.

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

this is your laws on jews

 

[dirtykombatcel]

trannies are such a fucking waste of time and resources, why do they get anything at all. disgusting braindead freaks.

 

[Emba]

west-cucked societies NEVER have ceased to amaze me

They have ceased to amaze me.

I pretty much expect some kind of random fucked up shit on a daily basis.

It's become boring and a bit passé.

 

[Black Soul]

They have ceased to amaze me.

I pretty much expect some kind of random fucked up shit on a daily basis.

It's become boring and a bit passé.

E m b a​

 

[cvh1991]

If a Man wants to take testosterone, Its illegal. You can only get TRT (which gives you "average" testosterone levels) if your pre-existing levels are that of a Pre-teen foid.

But a tranny? They get it IMMEDIATELY upon request, all paid for by tax payer dollars.

So a man, who wants to raise his already existing hormones is barred by law to do so but the goverment will gladly sponsor a mentally ill FREAKS quest to mutilate their genitalia, pump themselves full of the opposite sex hormone and play dress up all in the name of fulfilling some fucked sexual fantasy.

CLOWN WORLD. I CANT FUCKING TAKE IT, THINKING ABOUT IT MAKES ME INFURIATED.

HONK HONK, SEATBELTS EVERYONE!

 

[Kaisercel]

TRT actually gives you levels of testosterone that are at the higher end of the theoretically physiological level, which virtually nobody actually has without taking drugs. The range considered to be physiological is very large and the average guy has levels way lower than the maximum level which can still be considered to be natural. It's a trick used by many professional athletes to do doping without formally breaking the rules.
Not in quarrel with your main point though. It's absolutely insane that doctors feed the delusions of mentally ill people who claim to be born in the wrong body and other nonsense, giving them dangerous drugs and mutilating them.